am looking for a copywriter that will write me an amazing copy

[barakos9]

Hello Guys,

I am launching a new digital product in the “Digital Photography” industry.
I am looking for a copywriter that will write me an amazing copy that converts like hell!

I prefer someone that knows about that industry ( Digital Photography) I think it’s a high advantage
When the person who writes the copy knows what the client is desperate to hear…

Waiting for your proposals..

P.S

Can someone commit a certain conversation rate ? I know it’s up few parameters….but still , try to expect the average.

Thanks,

Barak

[barakos9]

BTW,
Any one have an good name for such an ebook?
what do you think about those :

1. Digital Photography - Secrets and Tips

2. Upgrade your Photography results

3. Digital Photography – From mediocrity to perfection.

4. Welcome to Professional Photography World

5. Digital Photography – So Easy

6. Digital Photography – from amateur to professional.

7. Digital Photography – The easy way to perfection.

8. Your Gate to Digital Photography.

[Kevin-VirtualProfitCenter]

Lots of things here you may want to consider barakos9:

* Committing to a conversion rate is necessitated on the number of visitors. 100 visitors may have a conversion rate of 1% or 25%. 10,000 will give you a more accurate number. You also have to consider the source of the traffic. When a client asks me to put a conversion rate into my pay formula it always must include a clause specifying a number of visitors and source of visitors the site owner will provide.

* If you have good demographics on your target market then you need to worry more about hiring the best copywriter you can afford, not the one who knows the most about digital photography. If you don't have good demographics then you need to get them before you hire a copywriter--or pay the copywriter to survey the market for you.

* Creating the book title is part of what the copywriter should do. You need to have a sales concept, sales process already in place before you create the title. Ideally you should have it in place before you create the product.

[Loren Woirhaye]

Those are all pretty dull titles, honestly. Kevin's right about
developing your product around a well-thought-out selling
concept.

Your conversion rate is a function of list selection. If you have
no list access and are trying to convert cold traffic your conversions
will be all over the map. The question is really if you have
appropriate lists and traffic sources lined up.

[barakos9]

First of all thank you very much!
second , the visitors will be highly targeted using ADWORDS,
I know it's hard to tell and depends on lot's of parameters...

But still can someone help us out here...
how to build the best landing page we can

[Kevin-VirtualProfitCenter]

Originally Posted by barakos9

First of all thank you very much!
second , the visitors will be highly targeted using ADWORDS,
I know it's hard to tell and depends on lot's of parameters...

But still can someone help us out here...
how to build the best landing page we can

If you are going with an adwords driven campaign, then you want to send them to a page with an opportunity to opt-in along with adwords "looking" links to your product pages.

You can waste a ton of money on adwords trying to get it right yourself, I would strongly recommend you hire someone with adwords experience to help you craft your landing page.

[CourtneyJames]

Hey,

Nice to see you digging for a copywriter in the warrior forum, but I'm a little worried about your request. Asking for someone to commit to a certain conversion rate is a little like asking not to pay.

I'm sure, there are folks here who will disagree.

As a copywriter, when I was on the market this was almost always a sure sign that the client was going to bail. Moreover, I wouldn't trust a copywriter who took a project where a specific conversion rate was agreed on ahead of time.

Why not?

Well, It kinda shows the copywriter doesn't know what they're doing in the first place. Because let's face it man, copy is only one part of your conversions. And it's not even the biggest part.

[barakos9]

Thanks guys!
Where are those entire great copywriters that offer me some nice copy deals?

[barakos9]

still , anyone ?

[dave147]

Have you seen this:
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...er-inside.html

[bigchezmktg]

Barak,

I think we're hesitant to reply because we've probably all had clients who pushed for conversion rates and relied on only adwords (where's your direct mail, email, and social networking campaign, man?)

Also, I agree about your titles. In a world where everyone's got a microwave mentality, an "I-want-it-yesterday" ideology, you wanna grab their attention.

An ebook like, "Become the Michelangelo of Digital Photography in One Weekend" would be much more appealing. To sell online you want more "Billy Mays" and less "Ben Stein".

Check out my R-rated page below if you'd like a quote. It's close enough to the end of the year that I'd probably make you an offer you can't refuse.

[barakos9]

Originally Posted by dave147

Have you seen this:
http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...er-inside.html

I would like to hear some more about that..

[barakos9]

please PM for further details

Originally Posted by bigchezmktg

Barak,

I think we're hesitant to reply because we've probably all had clients who pushed for conversion rates and relied on only adwords (where's your direct mail, email, and social networking campaign, man?)

Also, I agree about your titles. In a world where everyone's got a microwave mentality, an "I-want-it-yesterday" ideology, you wanna grab their attention.

An ebook like, "Become the Michelangelo of Digital Photography in One Weekend" would be much more appealing. To sell online you want more "Billy Mays" and less "Ben Stein".

Check out my R-rated page below if you'd like a quote. It's close enough to the end of the year that I'd probably make you an offer you can't refuse.

[bigchezmktg]

Done. Looking forward to hearing from you!

[StaffPartyTrivia]

You'll find that the best things to sell are the things people are searching for.
Are people searching for a product like yours?
Or are they looking for "Photography Business Plan" ???

[Alexa Smith]

Originally Posted by barakos9

Can someone commit a certain conversation rate?

In my opinion, it's unlikely, really.

I wouldn't be willing to, myself, because the conversion-rate depends on too many things other than the copy, and I could control only the copy, not the uses to which it's put or how the traffic's generated. I'd need at the very least to be able to verify exactly what the traffic was, and it would probably be pretty complicated to arrange.

[Daniel Scott]

Originally Posted by barakos9

Thanks guys!
Where are those entire great copywriters that offer me some nice copy deals?

Probably staying well away from you and your "offer" because a few months ago you wanted a kick-ass sales letter for $100 or something.

And despite the fact there's a sticky up the top saying "BEFORE you try to hire a copywriter" or something to that effect, you STILL don't put up any details on what kind of budget you have... or when the deadline is... or anything.

Anyone who's been in the game for a little while can tell your post sets off alarm bells.

If you want a great copywriter... well, you have to pay for them. And they're not cheap.

Plus no good copywriter will guarantee you a CR as others have said.

If you are serious about this project I'd re-word your initial offer with a deadline and budget... just like the sticky says (and you were advised last time you did this).

-Dan

[barakos9]

Hi,

if you would pm you'll find out what my budget is,
my budget is around $500 and the deadline is really flexable (up to 2 months from now)

Originally Posted by Daniel Scott

Probably staying well away from you and your "offer" because a few months ago you wanted a kick-ass sales letter for $100 or something.

And despite the fact there's a sticky up the top saying "BEFORE you try to hire a copywriter" or something to that effect, you STILL don't put up any details on what kind of budget you have... or when the deadline is... or anything.

Anyone who's been in the game for a little while can tell your post sets off alarm bells.

If you want a great copywriter... well, you have to pay for them. And they're not cheap.

Plus no good copywriter will guarantee you a CR as others have said.

If you are serious about this project I'd re-word your initial offer with a deadline and budget... just like the sticky says (and you were advised last time you did this).

-Dan

[Daniel Scott]

Why waste everyone's time PMing you when your budget is below what most copywriters charge?

Better to just be up front. As the sticky says, you'll get a lot more enquiries that way.

Having said that... get in touch with Chris Ramsay. He's in Mexico at the moment and is looking for something to do between shots of tequila and beautiful women :P. He usually charges a lot more but I his cost of living is pretty low at the moment... maybe he'll do you a deal?

There's also a guy called David Babineau who was in your price range recently. Not sure if he still is - I keep telling him to put his prices up - but he's not bad. I referred him some work a while back and he did a great job... and it was in a REALLY obscure niche.

Those are the two guys I can think of off the top of my head who do good work and might be a fit for you.

-Dan

[Daniel Scott]

Okay...

Mark...I didn't attack you personally... so why you have to attack me I have no idea.

I said great copy doesn't come cheap. And that's true. Go ask Carlton if he'll write a letter for $200... watch him laugh at you.

We're all in this game for money Mark. Not solely, perhaps, but it's a big part.

We all charge what we can get away with. That's selling 101. If you could charge more than $200 for a sales letter you'd be doing it. No one - and I mean NO ONE - would take a client and go "hey man, here, don't pay me that much."

Just doesn't happen.

Plenty of good copywriters have started out cheap... myself included. But we don't stay that way for long.

And hey.. if you read the post you'd see I recommended not one but two copywriters who fit within his budget.

I don't know if you're annoyed because I wouldn't recommend you or what... but you've yet again taken this whole thing completely out of context.

The bottom line is Mark I respect anyone who can write good copy... but I don't know many people who can write who are charging dirt cheap prices.

Now, admittedly, I don't know everyone. But the only copy I've ever seen come from $100 that was any good was my own... and that's because I spent 40 hours on each of those pieces. I literally earned something like $2/hour.

But since I had no portfolio etc I was willing to make that trade off.

Would I do things differently today? Definitely. But hindsight's always 20/20.

And for the record... I did 3 letters at that price. Context is everything.

But hey... if someone wants to churn out crappy letters that's between them and the client. I charge $5k/letter because my letters make my clients lots of money, and because I put in the EFFORT to make them that good.

But your business is... your business.

-Dan