Need a really good hook!

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I am selling an article marketing course and I need a good hook for my headline.

I would really appreciate help with this...

So what does my course have that others don't?

It has 22 videos - look over my shoulder as I create a successful campaign (the example article I write in the course is making me sales)

covers everything - from market research to conversions to backlinking

A complete newbie who had never heard of IM before made 4 sales 2/3 of the way through the course

Has action steps that if you take them you can't fail

When you take the course you know exactly what to do - step by step

My customer service is excellent - I answer questions right away and help with any problems

Videos are high quality, very easy to understand, concise - no fluff

I make a very nice living online and I can prove it. The problem is that most of my income does not come from article marketing anymore - I am past that stage... And I don't want to imply something that is not true.

Could we get any of this to work?

Or do I have to stick with the usual "Make $187 a day With This Awesome Formula"? which is something I don't really want to do if I can't prove it...

Thanks so much for any help...
#good #hook
  • Profile picture of the author kfk2003
    Originally Posted by Sara Young View Post

    Could we get any of this to work?
    The only thing in there that stands out to me is your newbie story, more could be made of that, especially if he went on to greater successes.

    To create a killer hook more information is needed such as:

    Why did you get into IM?
    How did you become successful?
    Why did you create the product?
    Why have you moved on?

    Ideally you'd be interviewed to allow someone to dig deep into your story to try to find any unusual little detail to help make your product stand out.
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    • Profile picture of the author freefor15.com
      Originally Posted by kfk2003 View Post

      The only thing in there that stands out to me is your newbie story, more could be made of that, especially if he went on to greater successes.

      To create a killer hook more information is needed such as:

      Why did you get into IM?
      How did you become successful?
      Why did you create the product?
      Why have you moved on?

      Ideally you'd be interviewed to allow someone to dig deep into your story to try to find any unusual little detail to help make your product stand out.

      well remeber that the only reason they would buy your product is to give them more traffic to thier website. So talking about yourself to much is a bad thing to do. This is my opinion but I could care less about the persons story as long as they have the details of what exactly I will get with the product.

      its all about what you offer them not about what your story is..
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  • Profile picture of the author ghyphena
    Hello Sara,

    It's quite hard to come up with a good sales hook... and especially hard for you to know which information to supply that's relevant to a hook.

    I think you may be getting "sales hook" confused with "USP", which is where your look-over-my-shoulder style, superb customer service, bite-size action steps, etc would come into play.

    Let me put it this way (this may not be the most accurate definition, but it's the way I see the difference):

    A USP is the thing that sets your product apart... all those things you've mentioned above are examples (albeit maybe not the most spectacular examples in the world).

    A sales hook also sets you apart, but it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the product. It's a bit of compelling story that's unique to you.

    Take, for instance, a really famous example within the direct marketing world:

    Amazing Secret Discovered By
    One-Legged Golfer Adds 50 Yards
    To Your Drives, Eliminates Hooks
    and Slices... And Can Slash Up To 10 Strokes From Your Game
    Almost Overnight!

    John Carlton's one-legged golfer isn't the product's USP... it's the hook. And here's why:

    The one-legged golfer has nothing to do with the actual product. The benefits of the golf video instruction would be the same whether there was that element there or not. (See what I'm saying? Of course it's related, but it doesn't affect the benefits.)

    The sales hook is all about human interest. Think "newspaper story". If you had to write a newspaper article about your business, what would the headline be?

    To uncover the sales hook you need to take a step back and look at the compelling human interest elements in the story of your business.

    Some ideas to give you a general direction:

    1. Perceived disability: Alcoholic, convicted criminal, dyslexic, computer-illiterate... elements that basically say "this method works despite X".

    Normally as effective as any other category of hook, but you get so many 22-year-old punks and 58-year-old single mothers around online that I would be careful.

    2. Juxtaposition: The one-legged-golfer is an example. Similar to the Perceived Disability, here you don't say "the method works despite X"... you say: "who'd have thunk it? The method works even better because of X"

    3. Credibility element: Journalist, novelist, public speaker, haiku enthusiast... all lend credibility to your article marketing course and set you apart, if they apply.

    Best part: Even if your supposed credibility is so far removed from article marketing that it makes no sense, it can be effective if you tie it into the product.

    For example:

    The Article-Writing Secret of an Ohio State Pie-Eating Champion

    And then you can tie it in by talking about building up stamina slowly or whatever. Doesn't need to be *extremely* logical, it just needs to make enough sense to not be totally ridiculous.

    Get my drift? You'll need to look at yourself, the product creator, and basically come up with some "human interest" tidbit that's special about you... and that can be tied in with the product.

    Hopefully that's helpful. Unless, of course, you were actually looking for a USP, in which case I would go with the look-over-my-shoulder, myself.

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    • Profile picture of the author Sara Young
      Thanks Gil-Ad and kfk.

      I was really looking for a hook, not a USP. But sort of thought the hook should be the USP. So thanks for clarifying!

      You made me think of something.

      I'm a stay at home mom of 6 kids. I became successful even though I had a toddler with me 24 hours a day (until 2 months ago - now he goes out in the mornings).

      I created the product because I wanted to help stay at home moms work from home.

      (Article marketing is the best way for newbies to start - no skills necessary and no money needed to invest.)

      I did end up selling it to moms (one of them is the newbie above) but I also want to sell it to people who are already into IM.

      Why did I move on? Well, I haven't stopped article marketing, but I no longer rely on articles to bring in all the traffic. I have my own site now.

      And that is also what I recommend to my students. As soon as you understand all the concepts and you are making money, get a website going and focus on that.

      But I feel it's a great way to get started.

      so that's it for my story.

      I know you said there are so many "successful moms" online, but this is who I really am (though I'm not 58 yet...)

      Also, here are some credibility factors I have, but I'm not sure they would work:
      I'm an electrical engineer
      I've been working online since 1994 (some years marketing, some programming)
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      • Profile picture of the author Fred_Acker
        Hi Sara. Your story in itself is pretty inspirational. I know it's been used before but the "Watch as I..."

        Are you also offering a cd version with this? Asking because 22 videos seems like a lot to watch online.
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        • Profile picture of the author Sara Young
          It's 22 videos but each is about 5-10 minutes long. It's really not a lot considering that you need to take an action step after each video. I wasn't really thinking of offering it as a CD but I might do that somewhere along the line.

          I got some good advice in this thread and will try to come up with something. If anyone has anything to add, I'm listening...
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      • Profile picture of the author Ross Bowring
        Originally Posted by Sara Young View Post

        I'm a stay at home mom of 6 kids. I became successful even though I had a toddler with me 24 hours a day (until 2 months ago - now he goes out in the mornings).
        That's a clear perceived disability Gil-Ad nicely outlined above. Now just write a bunch of headlines and above the fold packages around it and pick two to start testing.

        Here's one to get you started...

        Frazzled by initial failure...

        Mom Of 6 Hyperactive Kids Screams TIME OUT At All The Filthy Lies Surrounding Article Marketing...

        Take that out of your mouth now... as you're about to gasp in child like wonder at how big her part-time income has become simply by re-tooling article marketing to be as easy as ABC...
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        • Profile picture of the author Sara Young
          I got some headlines.

          You think any of these might work?

          Revealed:
          The Article Marketing Blueprint of a
          Busy Mom of 6 Kids Who Makes
          Thousands of Dollars a Month
          Working Just a Little Each Day!


          Busy Mom of 6 Kids
          Discovers the Formula
          To Writing Cash-Generating Articles
          Time after Time


          Busy Mom of 6 Kids Reveals:
          How to Stop Wasting Time on Useless Articles
          and Concentrate on Making Money


          Busy Mom of 6 Turns Newbies Into Super Affiliates

          Or maybe even just plain:

          The Article Marketing Secrets
          of a Busy Mom of 6 Kids
          Who Makes Thousands of Dollars Each Month
          From Her Own Home
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          • Profile picture of the author Leedir
            As a newbie myself, I think I will go with :

            The Article Marketing Secrets
            of a Busy Mom of 6 Kids
            Who Makes Thousands of Dollars Each Month
            From Her Own Home
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        • Profile picture of the author k0zm0zs0ul
          Originally Posted by Ross Bowring View Post

          That's a clear perceived disability Gil-Ad nicely outlined above. Now just write a bunch of headlines and above the fold packages around it and pick two to start testing.

          Here's one to get you started...

          Frazzled by initial failure...

          Mom Of 6 Hyperactive Kids Screams TIME OUT At All The Filthy Lies Surrounding Article Marketing...

          Take that out of your mouth now... as you're about to gasp in child like wonder at how big her part-time income has become simply by re-tooling article marketing to be as easy as ABC...


          Agreed, Ross's headline has been the only one to grab me. Lead in is a little convoluted for my tastes, but the first two lines are great.

          The ones you came up with, quite honestly will likely do nothing for you.

          I'd considering hiring it out to Ross as well if he's available, or at least someone with some experience creating copy. If there is one thing I've learned...focus on that which you excel, and outsource everything else!
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          • Profile picture of the author Ross Bowring
            Originally Posted by k0zm0zs0ul View Post

            Lead in is a little convoluted for my tastes
            Agreed. The dangers of first drafting in public.

            I'm right there with Mike in having two little ones. I have no idea how you do it with six. You deserve a medal.
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            • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
              Originally Posted by Ross Bowring View Post

              Agreed. The dangers of first drafting in public.

              I'm right there with Mike in having two little ones. I have no idea how you do it with six. You deserve a medal.
              It actually wasn't too bad when my train of thought clicked with yours, and I "got it"

              Everyone feels busy and frustrated, and those are emotions everyone can easily relate to. It just needs a lead in. Wouldn't make bad body copy at all.

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            • Profile picture of the author k0zm0zs0ul
              Originally Posted by Ross Bowring View Post

              Agreed. The dangers of first drafting in public.

              I'm right there with Mike in having two little ones. I have no idea how you do it with six. You deserve a medal.
              I second that! lol I have 2 boys, 10 and 6...they totally keep me on my toes, I couldn't imagine having SIX.

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      • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
        Originally Posted by Sara Young View Post


        I'm a stay at home mom of 6 kids. I became successful even though I had a toddler with me 24 hours a day (until 2 months ago - now he goes out in the mornings).
        6 kids...wow. I have two under the age of 3. The times when I don't have a babysitter to watch them, I swear I feel like I'm chasing 5 toddlers at once.

        You have my highest level of respect in juggling both family and your own business as well as you do.

        Let me see if I can come up with something for you in the a.m. as right now I'm completely cooked. Today was a 19 hour day for me and 6 a.m. when my kids get up will be here sooner than I'd like.

        Mike
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
        Originally Posted by Sara Young View Post

        I'm a stay at home mom of 6 kids. I became successful even though I had a toddler with me 24 hours a day (until 2 months ago - now he goes out in the mornings).

        I created the product because I wanted to help stay at home moms work from home.
        Hi Sara,

        Here's something that might work for you. I didn't know how much time your program asks people to dedicate each month so I used a placeholder time amount instead.

        Attention Stay At Home Moms Looking To Create Their Own Part-Time Income Stream...

        Busy, Stay-At-Home Mom of 6 Reveals
        How You Too Can Enjoy Your Own Successful
        Online Business... In Just 27 Minutes Per Day!


        Hope that helps,

        Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    Sara,

    I gotta be honest... none of those headlines grab me.

    If you're making a decent income, why not hire a professional... like Ross?

    I guarantee he'd absolutely nail this project... and he's probably still charging less than he should.

    Not sure how booked out he is... but you could always ask him.

    Seems to me it'd be smarter to stick to what you know best and let the pros handle the rest of it.

    -Dan
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    "Listen...If This One-Legged Stay-At-Home Mum Of 6 Kids Can Find The Time To Make $1000s A Month Online - You Can Too"


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    • Profile picture of the author Hugh Thyer
      You've already given us the hook.

      The hook is that you watch an actual campaign being created from beginning to rollout, and you explain every step along the way.

      People watch and copy the exact steps you do. No theory, its full on practical training. Get your own campaign and copy exactly what I do.
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      • Profile picture of the author Hugh Thyer
        Oh, and a headline could go something like this:
        "I was CHALLENGED to prove my wild claims and create an articles campaign from scratch that sucked in the profit...before their very eyes"
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        • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
          I won't argue with Carlton's definition of what a "hook"
          is in a salesletter, but it's not the same thing Robert
          Collier calls a hook in his book.

          To Collier the hook was part of the close, usually
          some reframing of the offer in some way to get the
          prospect to actually fill in the form and mail payment -
          mostly something along the lines of "the price is
          going up when we run through this lot - better
          get yours now" sort of thing.

          I can say from experience that a believable threat
          to raise the price (on something people want and
          perceive as a good value) is the best way to
          stimulate sales. It is not always easy to do with
          info-products though.

          For you product such a hook in the close might be
          something along the lines of " Don't put off your
          decision to get started making money with articles.
          You could earn back your investment in my course
          and be in profit within a few days."

          That's not very inspired copy, admittedly, but inspired
          copy is over-rated - rapport is more important than
          brilliance. Such a close is conditional on the reader
          already being interested - it's purpose is to goad
          the reader to action.

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          Regarding your USP - this is usually something that
          the copywriter has to know a LOT about the product
          and the target market and the competition to come
          up with. If it were easy most products would have
          one, but most don't.

          Another way to look at the USP issue is from the
          customer's point of view - what's the strongest
          reason for her to buy your course right now?

          - exclusive information?
          - easy to learn format?
          - money back guarantee if she doesn't make money?
          - extended support of some kind?
          - amazing price/value ratio? (tricky one)


          I thin adding some special level of support would be
          a good thing to look at. One-on-one consulting or
          editing of some kind perhaps.
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          • Profile picture of the author David Maschke
            Originally Posted by Paul McQuillan View Post

            I am not sure the mother of six thing is a good hook.

            It will alienate the male market (unless you are focusing on
            women who work/want to work from home)

            Is your traffic going to know what article marketing is? Perhaps
            the headline could be dumbed down-

            Work From Home And Literally Write Your Own Paycheck

            I'll show you how I used writing to make $3200 a month working only 2 hours per day...

            I don't know all of your details, I am just winging it to give you a
            different view.
            I would have to agree with this statement. It could just as well be " A woman with two pet gold fish..." There is no connection in the mind of the reader.

            The real power in what you described is the example article in your videos that is actually making sales. You're going way beyond rehashed theory and moving into practical application that produces concrete results.

            That's a proof element that you're going to have to drive home again and again in your presentation.


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            • Profile picture of the author Sara Young
              Originally Posted by David Maschke View Post

              I would have to agree with this statement. It could just as well be " A woman with two pet gold fish..." There is no connection in the mind of the reader.

              The real power in what you described is the example article in your videos that is actually making sales. You're going way beyond rehashed theory and moving into practical application that produces concrete results.

              That's a proof element that you're going to have to drive home again and again in your presentation.

              You're going to have to be very aware of what I call people's built in bullshi$-o-meter. Internet marketers in particular have very sensitive meters, (except the newbies and the perpetual gullible.)

              Dave
              Hmmm....

              I wonder about something like this:

              Watch Over My Shoulder As I Create a
              Money-Sucking Cash Machine

              Might work nicely for a WSO...

              BTW how did you know I had 2 pet goldfish? :-)
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              • Profile picture of the author DayDreamBeliever
                Hey guys, new poster here. Looking forward to a lot of interesting conversations about copy. This one isn't really a good hook now that I think of it but maybe you can still use it somewhere.

                How Did I Have Time To Take Care Of 6 Kids AND
                Make A Decent Income On The Internet?

                TWO WORDS: ARTICLE MARKETING

                ** And It Will Be So Much Easier For You Because You're Going To Do In Just 1 Hour **
                ** What I've Had To Figure Out For Myself Over The Past 3 Years **
                ** BUT DON'T YOU WORRY BECAUSE I'M HANDING YOU THE SAME **
                ** KICK-ASS BLUEPRINT THAT I USE EVERY DAY - HOLLA! **
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  • Sara,
    I am on a "testing" kick today. All of the suggestions you've received are excellent. Tons of wisdom here. However, you should plan on testing multiple headlines. Don't expect to nail the exact headline right out of the gate.

    Select 3-4 of the best and then load them up for testing via Google Website Optimizer. Review each one to see how they perform. Let your market tell you which ones work.

    Also consider running a quick Adwords campaign with short versions of these headlines to see which ones get clickthroughs.

    I enjoy trying to pick the winner without testing. However, it usually loses me money. I much rather test to be certain.

    Stan
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    • Profile picture of the author Zero
      Instead of saying "earning thousands" state a specific value, if you're gonna go that route.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sara Young
    Thanks everyone. You've definitely given me food for though.

    I appreciate your honesty - I know copywriting is not my strong point.

    And Metronicity - LOL, but I'd rather keep both my legs...
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam Mlambo
    Here's my idea:

    How a Mom Of 6 Hyperactive Kids Finally Cracked the Code to Article Marketing Riches and How You Can Use the Same Proven Blueprint to Multiply Your Sales/Commissions!


    I like Ross the best though. It's a great headline.
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  • Profile picture of the author StaffPartyTrivia
    If you're selling video training - why not just do a video sales page
    and include a few clips of the course?
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