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| Mal Lambe War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: The Bunker, Paris
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Seen this? Get FB Ads Free I have a pretty good idea who wrote it. Would just like confirmation. But IMO this is Fraud. You seen the thread here on it? Get FB ads Free Or Facebook Ads Free ? Seen what people are saying on the net? This is a stinker. The FTC would have a field day with this. They start off by offering JV partners Win a $350k Rolls Royce Phantom For a Week" and it goes downhill rapidly from there. The JV prize isn't the car at all - it's a week's chauffeur-driven tour of Miami clubs in the thing. Talk about "misrepresentation". The offer itself is promising software that will allow you to get facebook ads for free. Uh right. BS of course. They mean if you whack a CPA offer on a fanpage and it makes money your ad spend is zip. Entirely different beast - and again misrepresentation and fraud IMO. And the script is making FBML fan pages that will be replaced by iframes on March 11 anyway. What's up with that? So I'd really like to know who the writers are on this. You man enough to put your hands up? And let's not forget the BS scarcity tactic - "Only 500 will be sold". I've been refreshing the page for the last day and it's still reading "33 Downloads left". How dumb do you think people are? That dumb? This kind of stuff is just going to terminally damage this industry. UPDATE: now this is HILARIOUS. Google "get FB ads free" and the whole membership page is there. Wide open. Everything. The whole sorry package. PDFs, videos, access to the Upsells - the works. ROFLMAO Just look for the URL plus /membersaccess Class act all round. |
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| Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Lancashire, United Kingdom.
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I really hope that pile of BS wasn't written by any of the reputable writers on here.
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| Godfather Of Persuasion War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Los Angeles - Tampa - Raleigh
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Actually written by the marketers themselves. No copywriter as far as I know.
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"Do the actors on Unsolved Mysteries ever get arrested because they look just like the criminal they are playing?"
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You guys should do a search for the review of this program on Youtube. Very funny!
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That is absolutely fraud...I think. Isn't this about FBML tabs? Isn't FB switching to iFrames?
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| Yep - March 11. But apparently these guys are saying they'll update the software by then. Meanwhile a good third of the site is missing content - Vids/Forum/PDFs. You really got to wonder. One JV I spoke to said he made 100 sales on the first day and had 70% Refunds on the second.
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product creator is Jani G he is member of wf
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Anyone who buys that deserves to lose their money. That is my opinion. That's not even good hyped up biz opp copy that should warrant any type of genuine curiosity. Truthfully, this doesn't even belong in the "copywriting" forum. The copy is awful actually. This is just an example of desperate insecure people with no common sense engaging in a relationship with a scam artist. It's like if you were to see someone buying crack... dissecting the situation in a logical way is pointless and offers no resolution... |
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What happened to the other thread about this product? Why was it removed from the Forum does anyone know the truth about this? I love the Warrior Forum, I would hate to think that this got political among the people who were promoting this and they gave in to pressure to remove it. |
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I have already unsubscribed from a slew of mailing lists as a result of the promotion of this product. Was always taught by the "gurus" to promote quality products to your list so as to maintain the loyalty of your list....ironically some of the ones I've unsubscribed from were some of the ones who talked about that very same advice on list management.
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Meanwhile those clowns have still left the back door open for anyone to walk in and steal their product. How funny is that. BTW the welcome message starts with JaniG claiming they have a last-minute bonus that cost them $2k and is only available to the first 15 to take advantage of it. Again - those 15 copies have been available for days. LOL | |
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Master Resale Rights are so versatile, and these are educational, too. All kinds of IM material. Read, sell, break up into articles, combine into bundles, and there are 250 of them, complete with MRR, here for a bargain price! I'm even throwing in the sales page. Only £37 for Warriors. http://www.250mrrproducts.com | ||
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| I used to work for an info-product company and for reasons beyond explanation, they also left all of their members areas completely unprotected...no password required. Yet, they never could explain their abnormally high refund rates.
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What amazed me is the sheer number of guys I trusted have pushed this, along with all the others I hadn't quite got to unsubscribing from yet... I almost feel bad "cleansing" them, as almost all that I still subscribe to are guys I've bought products from that I liked and thought had some value... Despite all this, does the method have any legs? I mean, if one picked the right offer, do you think that you could easily get the "cancelling out of the FB add cost" effect, and actually make close to the amount of income they suggest? |
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Jani wrote the copy himself and any copywriter sitting in the copywriting forum complaining that this copy converts but is horrible, should actually learn at least "why" it converts and how they can apply that to their letters. because everything else aside regarding this product (and indifferent for the sake of this discussion) this letter converts to cold clicks from IM lists almost better than anything that has come out recently. So the first question you need to be asking yourself as a copywriter is "Why does this convert good" Now for some of you the immediate answer will be "because its no good scamming fraud" that is an ok answer, but....... analyze the elements and I am sure that with a few minor twists they could come into your "comfort zone" and still convert almost nearly as well. save the Jani bashing for the reviews forums, what the kid actually does well is write copy, so lets look at that and why it converts. |
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I have a feeling a lot of the "Gurus" will be more hesitant of what they promote when it comes to products related to FB after this one finishes its launch. I'd be surprised if some of those gurus cut their launch emails short after getting some feedback. |
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ok, so this converted because of the Hook.... "get facebook ads free" that is what sold it according to your paragraph... now are you smart enough to come up with or (copy) something with as strong of a hook. cause at the end of the day we are here to sell.... and just imagine how big of a benz you could buy mal if you could get a strong hook like that and have a lower refund rate than jani.. | |
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BTW did you truly think you had the chance of winning a $350k RR Phantom - another dodgy come-on JG had in his JV promo. Or do you admire that style of copy as well? Here...I'll quote it - "Win this $350,000 Rolls Royce Phantom...plus get loads of $435.65 commissions". No disclaimer. No "just for a week" in the fine print. Don't know about you but I've had three emails from JVs apologising for being involved in the promotion of this. And that's a first in my book. I don't expect to see one from you. You obviously see nothing wrong with this. OK. We'll see how it pans out. BTW I just picked up a classic S600 V12 Benz. That's about as big as I want to go. The fuel consumption is bordering on obscene. But I justify it by only driving it to church on Sundays. With my 85 year old Mother in the back. At 300 kph down the autobahn. Full tilt boogie. Take no prisoners. | |
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i am still waiting for my refund about this and my wife was crying as she paid $47 for something and we dont have much money to spend right now
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I'm sure people realize this but I haven't seen anyone mention it. This is a rerun of the google ads for free product. There was a firestorm over that one too.
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Jani does his own copy. He also writes for other people, a lot of the blind stuff you see.
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If you watch the JV video, you'll hear Jani say they hired 2 copywriters who both have had a combined 7 Clickbank no.1s. Don't know if it's true, just saying James |
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Just a quick note here, an add on. I don't want to come across as though I'm supporting any vendor who is lying and scamming and putting out crap. Personally I don't know how they sleep at night. To me, money I EARN is the only type I can spend and feel ok with myself. But, gambling with the rent money (which is what you appear to have done) is compulsive behavior of the type that addicts engage in. Yes, the vendors should be held accountable for what they sell, but personal responsibility and accountability run both ways. Myself, I get tired of all the people who come onto forums and whine and complain about being taken advantage of by the same damn scam every single week. Wake up people. There's no such thing as a free lunch. If you want to run a successful business online, your going to have to do what everyone else who's ever run a successful business has had to do (and that includes even the guy's selling you the dream...some of them are actually among the hardest working people I've ever met online)....WORK. Learn the basic's of salesmanship, stop worrying about the "latest and greatest" gadget and tactic...focus on good old fashion selling and salesman ship - not on cheap ass tricks. The ONLY ONE making money on the tricks is the one selling them to suckers. They are not making that money off the trick. But we live in a world full of predators, and as long as there are people who want something for noting, there's always going to be people who are willing to WORK to take advantage of them. |
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it is about this being a place for copywriters to study craft and that is what I am concerned about. lets take a shock example. hitler won the hearts and minds of the German people in the 30's and led them to world war and lots of other nasty things. am i nazi? no. (but you are Mal....haha) do I agree or support with what they did? no. I have a moral ethic in place that disagrees with their worldview. however, as a student of human pschoylogy I am going to learn EXACTLY what Hitler did to move a nation to do such a thing... this in the exact same breath that I have vehemently studied the life of ghandi to see how he took back a nation bloodless. Getting MASSES of people to do what you want is the ultimate goal of a copywriter. How you use that power is per your wishes, however to blanket poop on something (ITS A FRAUD) and not even understand the "why" underneath it is just ignorant and self limiting to both your skills and your career IMHO. the fact is that as copywriters we (not sure if I qualify as one or not since I don't write for others) are students of an art. Detach yourself from it and study the art. That is how we all will improve our game. and yes... your benz is big enough already. | |
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And since when is this "not about Jani and this scam". The copy is perpetrating a fraud. Apparently written by JaniG - nonwithstanding the fact that he claimed in his JV video pitch that its written by "two copywriters with seven #1 Clickbank pages between them". Maybe the truth is the two potential writers saw right through this scam and refused to have anything to do with it. If so, more power to them. | |
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| actually no, you are incorrect. I am definitely not JV'ing with him nor endorsing him... I know Jani, I know alot of people, but we wont go into who you know....... i dont think there is anything else to say as i am speaking to deaf ears.
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My impression exactly. I get so tired of hearing it's dead easy to cover your ad spend with CPA offers - it just isn't and it takes an experienced marketer to achieve day after day. Like you said, the promotion just gets IM a bad name.
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It's been taken off clickbank now anyway, and off the marketplace all together.
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![]() Meanwhile Clickbank still sponsor Get Google Ads Free - "Contains *Magic Code* When Added To Any Site Makes Google Pay-Per-Click Ads Costs Go To Zero!" I disagree with Harlan Kilstein on a lot of stuff but he's dead right with this one - Clickbank needs to get its house in order. BTW it might be "sold out" but the backdoor is still wide open - letting anyone grab it for free. hey...now there's an idea for a WSO - "Get Get FB Ads Free for FREE! | |
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Any one who participates in a misleading and fraudulent product, including a copy writer is accountable for the fraud being perpetuated. If the person who wrote the copy is not the product creator, ignorance is not an excuse. The FTC would hold "ALL" the people liable. Quote:
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For all those who think it's perfectly OK to make false claims and misrepresent their products - or their clients products - read this info from Advertising and Marketing on the Internet: Rules of the Road | BCP Business Center Quote:
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So here's the $66 Million question - where the hell is the FTC? "This has been another wonderful Clickbank production - remember campers - don't wank, make bank" | |
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It looks like the videos been redone... last night (I'm in Australia) she didn't look at the camera even once and kept on stuttering. It was just awkward. I hope whoevers selling this crap gets shut down soon. |
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I was hooked. Not surprising, I'm pretty sure the guy/gal who wrote Steve Iser's Commission Crusher assembled this thing, too. The style, graphics, and even the guarantee are identical. Best, Angel | |
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