sites with killer copy

davemiz · 12-24-2008, 07:21 PM

would love to get some new sites bookmarked with great copy. (i've got TONS of them over the years).

What site has awesome copy that converts?

(doesn't matter the market)

share the link love. ;-)

Alex Cohen · 12-24-2008, 10:45 PM

Ray Edwards recently commented on Twitter that this site is converting very well. His exact quote, "it's getting KILLER results".

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learnmore · 12-24-2008, 11:03 PM

Hi Dave,
Thank you for your question, I'm myself interested in seeing some great examples. If you don't mind, would you like to share some of your own finds?

On a related note, you know you can use free FireFox Plugin Foxmarks to manage/share your bookmarks no matter where you are as long as you have access to Internet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by davemiz

would love to get some new sites bookmarked with great copy. (i've got TONS of them over the years).

What site has awesome copy that converts?

(doesn't matter the market)

share the link love. ;-)

lisawood · 12-26-2008, 12:29 PM

of course he did

Bruce Wedding · 12-26-2008, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexcoh

Ray Edwards recently commented on Twitter that this site is converting very well. His exact quote, "it's getting KILLER results".

It's a nice piece of copy. But, "Killer results" for a free product and killer results which require the customer to pull out a credit card are not comparable.

Kyle Tully · 12-26-2008, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruce Wedding

It's a nice piece of copy. But, "Killer results" for a free product and killer results which require the customer to pull out a credit card are not comparable.

It's also being pushed heavily by all the big names associated with it.

Put Mr. No Name marketer on there and charge $47 and suddenly your results are waaaay different.

RareGoodStuff · 12-27-2008, 01:21 AM

Try copyblogger.com, you might find the site very interesting and helpful. I use a lot of tips from that site and they have not disappointed me. Good Luck in your business!

Christie Love · 12-27-2008, 01:47 AM

One quick and easy way to find killer sales copy is to go to the Clickbank Marketplace... do a search for a specific niche, sort by Gravity then see look for a sales letter that has a low Gravity percentage and a high Referred percentage. These are the sites where most of the profits are pulled by the sales copy.

Yes, you might also want to try Ray. He has a huge library of copywriting sales letters for you to review and study.

davemiz · 02-03-2009, 09:11 AM

ray is a friend of mine.... great guy, great copywriter.... i don't judge armands stuff as much partly because his name/rep will obviously skew any results.

done all that... i have a TON of sites.... I've got several thousand bookmarks for marketing sites starting from 1999 (way back when I started).

so far nothing good from this thread. :-(

miyachi1 · 02-04-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RareGoodStuff

Try copyblogger.com, you might find the site very interesting and helpful. I use a lot of tips from that site and they have not disappointed me. Good Luck in your business!

I agree here, there's some killer copy on that site. I admit that I'm prone to buy a product or service promoted there, versus any other blog I have read. Plus, it's a team of many copywriters so you get some variety too.

MikeHumphreys · 02-05-2009, 12:45 AM

Okay, it's a bit self-promotional but here's one that I recently wrote for Jason James.

It's still in launch mode but the main sales letter is averaging around 4.2% and the upsell at 22%.

Jason James Giveaway Riches - The Quick And Easy Way To Build Your Profitable List!

With some of the additional testing we have planned, that conversion rate should hopefully creep up some more.

By the way, that's a non-affiliate link so feel free to check it out if you want to see some "killer copy".

Enjoy,

Mike

davemiz · 02-06-2009, 09:02 AM

thanks.

I'm not really impressed with 'make money online' stuff simply because as we all know IM'ers buy everything and for inflated prices.

I was mostly interested in non "make money" copy.

btw mike, drop shadow on the headline needs work.... makes the headline hard to read on the eyes. :-)

MaskedMarketer · 02-06-2009, 09:25 AM

Check an Agora salesletter

Heres another one

If you know how to search the SE- you can find around 2k Agora sales letters and sort them by your keywords.

Raydal · 02-06-2009, 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christie Love

Yes, you might also want to try Ray. He has a huge library of copywriting sales letters for you to review and study.

Just a clarification that the "Ray Edward" referred to earlier is NOT me.

As Bruce rightly said, it's not a good example to give a FREE item
as a good example of a conversion rate. Anything that is free and
of some value should have a conversion rate of 110%.

-Ray Edwards

MikeHumphreys · 02-06-2009, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davemiz

btw mike, drop shadow on the headline needs work.... makes the headline hard to read on the eyes. :-)

Dave,

Are you looking for non-IM niche sales letters? Seems to me if it's an online sales letter than it's intended to "make money online".

Thanks for the heads-up. I'll alert the graphics guy as I don't didn't do some of the graphic design for that site... I just critique it afterwards and point out what I want/need changed.

Thanks,

Mike

travlinguy · 02-06-2009, 01:26 PM

This one isn't a traditional IM sales page and isn't formatted as one. It is, however, one that sells and sells and sells some more. An aspiring copywriter could learn a lot studying this piece. Oh, and it's not an affiliate link either:

Become a Resume Writer

John Rowe · 02-06-2009, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeHumphreys

It's still in launch mode but the main sales letter is averaging around 4.2% and the upsell at 22%.

Jason James Giveaway Riches - The Quick And Easy Way To Build Your Profitable List!

Mike, your link to Jason’s page says “the quick and easy way to build your profitable list”. If you hadn’t worded your link that way, I would not have known what Jason was selling until about the 664-word mark in his sales letter. That’s the first mention (except for the single general comment next to his photo) that he’s selling something to do with list building.

Then, it’s not until around the 1100-word mark that I find out he’s selling information on list building via giveaways.

Your link told me what to expect, but the letter doesn’t get me there for a long time.

I’m interested in copy, but I don’t write copy, so I’d love to hear why it’s better to do it like that instead of having Jason say what he’s offering, much sooner in the letter. Maybe even in the headline.

MikeHumphreys · 02-06-2009, 03:01 PM

Hi John,

This forum shows the site description on links rather than the URL. So you're reading the basic SEO description.

In terms of when to make the offer, I rarely lead with it. I prefer to spend time creating interest in the product and the benefits that the prospect will gain if they become a buyer before they hear the offer.

There's a copywriting formula called A.I.D.A. which is the suggested order to a sales letter. The last letter is short for Action, meaning that's when you want the prospect to buy -- after you've gotten their attention, build interest in the product and given compelling reason after reason why they want it.

Another way I've heard it is "emotional foreplay". You want to build interest, passion, and desire leading up to the *ahem* main event, not jump right to the event. In this case, the event is buying your product.

Dan Kennedy says it best: "There's no such thing as a sales letter that is too long. Only too boring".

Never bore the reader but don't rush to the order button either.

In terms of the headline, it's primary job to attract the prospect's attention and get them to read the next part of the sales letter. That part's job is to get them to read the next part, and so on.

Hope that helps,

Mike

P.S. Saying that his product is just about giveaways is an incomplete statement. It doesn't share how he setups and executes this strategy to such a high level of success. That's like saying you're "just" an online marketer... without revealing what tactics and techniques you use to build and continue to build your online business.

John Rowe · 02-06-2009, 03:24 PM

Thanks for taking the time to explain your strategy Mike.

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Alex Cohen · 02-07-2009, 10:45 AM

The purpose of an opt-in page is to "sell" the freebie --- in exchange for a prospect's name and email address. Some opt-in pages do this very well; others don't. So to say an opt-in page which uses persuasive ad copy can't be a good example of a conversion rate is incorrect.

Alex

12-24-2008, 07:21 PM	#1
davemiz Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Miami, Fl. USA. Posts: 1,446 Thanks: 8 Thanked 162 Times in 108 Posts	sites with killer copy would love to get some new sites bookmarked with great copy. (i've got TONS of them over the years). What site has awesome copy that converts? (doesn't matter the market) share the link love. ;-)
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12-24-2008, 10:45 PM	#2
Alex Cohen Copy Champion War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,000 Thanks: 45 Thanked 507 Times in 302 Posts Contact Info	Re: sites with killer copy Ray Edwards recently commented on Twitter that this site is converting very well. His exact quote, "it's getting KILLER results". Internet Marketing Newsletter Alex

12-26-2008, 12:29 PM	#4
lisawood Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Northeast US Posts: 50 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: sites with killer copy of course he did

12-27-2008, 01:21 AM	#7
RareGoodStuff Nicholas Okonkwo War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Stamford, Connecticut , USA. Posts: 85 Thanks: 51 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts Social Networking	Re: sites with killer copy Try copyblogger.com, you might find the site very interesting and helpful. I use a lot of tips from that site and they have not disappointed me. Good Luck in your business!

12-27-2008, 01:47 AM	#8
Christie Love The Fabulous One War Room Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 930 Thanks: 11 Thanked 79 Times in 68 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: sites with killer copy One quick and easy way to find killer sales copy is to go to the Clickbank Marketplace... do a search for a specific niche, sort by Gravity then see look for a sales letter that has a low Gravity percentage and a high Referred percentage. These are the sites where most of the profits are pulled by the sales copy. Yes, you might also want to try Ray. He has a huge library of copywriting sales letters for you to review and study.
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02-03-2009, 09:11 AM	#9
davemiz Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Miami, Fl. USA. Posts: 1,446 Thanks: 8 Thanked 162 Times in 108 Posts	Re: sites with killer copy ray is a friend of mine.... great guy, great copywriter.... i don't judge armands stuff as much partly because his name/rep will obviously skew any results. done all that... i have a TON of sites.... I've got several thousand bookmarks for marketing sites starting from 1999 (way back when I started). so far nothing good from this thread. :-(
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02-05-2009, 12:45 AM	#11
MikeHumphreys Copywriter and Marketer War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Philly Suburbs, USA Posts: 2,785 Thanks: 787 Thanked 696 Times in 373 Posts Social Networking	Re: sites with killer copy Okay, it's a bit self-promotional but here's one that I recently wrote for Jason James. It's still in launch mode but the main sales letter is averaging around 4.2% and the upsell at 22%. Jason James Giveaway Riches - The Quick And Easy Way To Build Your Profitable List! With some of the additional testing we have planned, that conversion rate should hopefully creep up some more. By the way, that's a non-affiliate link so feel free to check it out if you want to see some "killer copy". Enjoy, Mike
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02-06-2009, 09:02 AM	#12
davemiz Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Miami, Fl. USA. Posts: 1,446 Thanks: 8 Thanked 162 Times in 108 Posts	Re: sites with killer copy thanks. I'm not really impressed with 'make money online' stuff simply because as we all know IM'ers buy everything and for inflated prices. I was mostly interested in non "make money" copy. btw mike, drop shadow on the headline needs work.... makes the headline hard to read on the eyes. :-)
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02-06-2009, 09:25 AM	#13
MaskedMarketer Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,030 Thanks: 286 Thanked 85 Times in 71 Posts Social Networking	Re: sites with killer copy Check an Agora salesletter Heres another one If you know how to search the SE- you can find around 2k Agora sales letters and sort them by your keywords.
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02-06-2009, 01:26 PM	#16
travlinguy Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Northern Hemisphere, for now. Posts: 2,441 Thanks: 980 Thanked 1,233 Times in 737 Posts Contact Info	Re: sites with killer copy This one isn't a traditional IM sales page and isn't formatted as one. It is, however, one that sells and sells and sells some more. An aspiring copywriter could learn a lot studying this piece. Oh, and it's not an affiliate link either: Become a Resume Writer
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02-06-2009, 03:01 PM	#18
MikeHumphreys Copywriter and Marketer War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Philly Suburbs, USA Posts: 2,785 Thanks: 787 Thanked 696 Times in 373 Posts Social Networking	Re: sites with killer copy Hi John, This forum shows the site description on links rather than the URL. So you're reading the basic SEO description. In terms of when to make the offer, I rarely lead with it. I prefer to spend time creating interest in the product and the benefits that the prospect will gain if they become a buyer before they hear the offer. There's a copywriting formula called A.I.D.A. which is the suggested order to a sales letter. The last letter is short for Action, meaning that's when you want the prospect to buy -- after you've gotten their attention, build interest in the product and given compelling reason after reason why they want it. Another way I've heard it is "emotional foreplay". You want to build interest, passion, and desire leading up to the ahem main event, not jump right to the event. In this case, the event is buying your product. Dan Kennedy says it best: "There's no such thing as a sales letter that is too long. Only too boring". Never bore the reader but don't rush to the order button either. In terms of the headline, it's primary job to attract the prospect's attention and get them to read the next part of the sales letter. That part's job is to get them to read the next part, and so on. Hope that helps, Mike P.S. Saying that his product is just about giveaways is an incomplete statement. It doesn't share how he setups and executes this strategy to such a high level of success. That's like saying you're "just" an online marketer... without revealing what tactics and techniques you use to build and continue to build your online business.
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02-06-2009, 03:24 PM	#19
John Rowe YES, I'M RICH! War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Vancouver, B.C. Posts: 1,887 Thanks: 81 Thanked 77 Times in 52 Posts	Re: sites with killer copy Thanks for taking the time to explain your strategy Mike.

02-06-2009, 08:54 PM	#20
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02-07-2009, 10:45 AM	#21
Alex Cohen Copy Champion War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,000 Thanks: 45 Thanked 507 Times in 302 Posts Contact Info	Re: sites with killer copy The purpose of an opt-in page is to "sell" the freebie --- in exchange for a prospect's name and email address. Some opt-in pages do this very well; others don't. So to say an opt-in page which uses persuasive ad copy can't be a good example of a conversion rate is incorrect. Alex