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If you had a limited amount of space, which is more effective? Assuming both are benefit-rich, bullet points or paragraphs? I suppose bullet points captures the scanners while paragraph copy suck people into a story. Or is there more to it? That said, I'd appreciate your opinions or test results on this. |
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| Rony Willam War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2011
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I'd suggest bullet points as they are easy to read and attract more attention of a visitor.. Paragraph on the other side looks like a story and people tend to skip that part.. |
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bullet points should be used asdeviate attention towards the text
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when in doubt always bulletpoints
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You'll almost always accomplish more with bullets regardless of space restriction. Think of it like this, each powerful bullet could be the topic for a paragraph unto itself. You can cover as many broad points with bullets as the number of bullets you write. In other words, each bullet can represent a completely different idea where a proper paragraph follows a single train of thought.
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numbers ie bullet points work well, thats what I'd use
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I see. But what about Ogilvy's angle, in that your real target market will respond to your compelling headline and read whatever it is you have to say about the offer. So the ones that are actually qualified leads and will respond are ones that will eat up the copy that you write, in paragraph form or not. I suppose you'll get more scanners that glance over your bullet points, but the ones that get sucked into your little paragraphs with benefit stories are more likely to respond. At least that's how the reasoning goes in my head. |
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Halbert (of course) had a great newsletter about this. It really depends on a lot of factors. Primarily, can you make your bullet points compelling? If so, you really can't have too many. Here's Gary's take on it. The Gary Halbert Letter Pretty neat how he shows you what the book actually said and how he spun the info into compelling "gotta know what he's talking about" bullets. Personally, I always use a combination of paragraphs and bullets. Some products rely on bullets/curiosity more than others. Anytime someone talks about bullets and the current generation of copywriters, Ben Settle comes to mind. This ad is almost completely made up of bullet points. The Copywriting Grab Bag If you pay attention, even a lot of his paragraphs have that zippy, curiosity inducing feel to them. Like... Quote:
That being said, it really does depend on what you're selling, your appeal, your personal style, etc. Hope that helps. -Scott | |
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Good thoughts so far, but no one addressed this point: "But what about Ogilvy's angle, in that your real target market will respond to your compelling headline and read whatever it is you have to say about the offer. So the ones that are actually qualified leads and will respond are ones that will eat up the copy that you write, in paragraph form or not." Am I wrong in thinking this? |
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I believe that bullet points are better because they will force your readers' eye to see the sales points broken down in fast, easy to read language. You can simplify long sentences. Eliminate extraneous verbiage. They are more forceful, like commands. I believe that bullet points are better
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I think it depends on the product, the target market, whether you're writing for the Web or direct mail and maybe how good you are at writing...
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I'm going to say it depends. Media-to-market message - bullets don't always work everywhere. In tests for consumer products, I've found that men typically respond better to bullets than women. I respond better to bullets. In fact I'll buy things sometimes just to get the information in one or two bullets. But, in my experience, and it could be different than yours women seem to have more patience and read paragraphs. I can't account for this. Maybe they are seeking more in depth information they hope will be revealed buried in a paragraph. I don't know but after testing several hard sell bullets that work great on men against different strategies with women that outpulled these are my conclusions. |
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Why can't you use both, usually you repeat important attributes of a product. Use bullet points to state what benefits are and then write a longer description in paragraph form below it. You capture attention with bullet points and then suck them in with a paragraph for time investment.
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I'm with Squeezy. It isn't a question of either or. Of course it depends on a lot of things and varies from ad to ad, but typically a paragraphed "story" section accomplishes an entirely different goal than the bullet section. |
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Great thread! Nowhere does this come up more frequently than in the world of catalog copywriting, where every single word and piece of punctuation MUST pay for its placement. So in light of that, here's the formula I found usually delivered the most profit per square inch:
TEST THEM BOTH. Hope this helps! ![]() Len |
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Here is an article that underscores the effectiveness of any length of copy that is interesting and relevant: Long copy vs. short copy. Who is right? |
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That said it can be good to give women talking points to discuss with friends, so you should find a way to highlight strong sales arguments in a sound-byte form. Cheers! Stephen | |
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Given the choice compelling copy will win every time - I did say compelling.
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Make use of it in correct situation. Bullet point is good but do not use it all of the time. Paragraph may use sub headline to categorise it. If your writing style always the same, i believe people will getting bored with is as well. |
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Make a variation of it regarding the point and the layout. Just make it comfortable to the reader/ user |
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If you want to become a bullet master (or want to at least know what the hell you are doing) I suggest you start here... The Gary Halbert Letter Read that issue and do the homework. Because for me it was the turning point - When things started falling into place and I began to really "get it". Copying Carlton's bullets - and then tracking down 500 more and copying those was one of the biggest copywriting "level-ups" of my career. Not only will you get a "million-dollar imprint" but that imprint will go beyond just writing bullets and leak into the rest of your copywriting (in a very good way). Also an extra added bonus -in addition to being able to write powerful copy - you will also get a swipe file of strong bullets. Because you will have 560 top-notch bullets you get to keep forever. Personally, after I finished them all, I put stars on the index cards with the strongest bullets. I keep those in a separate pile. I use them to this day to kick-start my noggin and inspire strong bullets (and sometimes headlines). !Andy! |
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Since you've mentioned limited space, bullet points are best! Bullet points with strong, captivating words, than is! ![]() Quote:
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Obviously Bullet points i think or gues...
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