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| Penwright Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: London
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I've been thinking recently that I need to do a bit more reading (and don't worry, this isn't a 'what books should I read' thread - I've been through the sticky and Amazon is now that little bit richer). I finished Andy Maslen's 'Write to Sell' the other day, and I wanted to see what y'all thought of it. Mostly, I thought it was pretty good. He's clearly pretty smart (and by this I mean I agree with him a lot). Some of the book was a bit low-level, but the audience is meant to include complete beginners, so that's kind of expected. That said, there was some stuff in there that I knew but it was really useful to have it codified - in particular his Know-Feel-Commit flow and the different types of benefit. There was also the idea of power words - the monosyllables that pack a heavy emotional punch. Again, this isn't new stuff, but the simple idea of making a list to refer to had never occured to me (because I is clevers), and it's ideas like this that made the book worth reading. The one bit I really didn't agree with was his hard line on cliches. Sometimes, yes, you should definitely avoid them, but people love familiarity so sometimes it's better to use a phrase they instantly get and don't have to think about. They're a tool that's good for a certain type of job, so putting them in the same 'never touch' box as nuclear waste seems a bit OTT. Anyone else who's read Write to Sell, what did you think? Great? Mediocre? Useful only as a source of paper aeroplanes to throw at passers by? Discuss. |
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Brisbane, Australia
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I haven't read the book, but it sounds great. Although i do dislike it when copywriters say 'always avoid this' or 'always do that', because oftentimes they give "rules" based on their own feelings rather than actual data. Did he do a lot of testing to make sure his assumptions were correct?
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| Copywriting Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Haven't read the book but I disagree with the part about cliches. Like you said, they can help breed a sense of familiarity--that know, like and trust. Sometimes though I try to tweak them just a bit so they're still recognizable but not so worn out.
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| HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Port Saint Lucie, FL
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I've seen a trend against cliches - but really, it's never so much against cliches in general as it is their overuse. Yeah, nobody minds sprinkling them throughout the copy. They help. But using them excessively, constantly, is a recipe for disaster. Use them to transition, use them to add emotion, and use them when you need to make a connection or a point. Don't use them idly. |
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A cliche is already an overused phrase or expression. That's why it's called a cliche. So Maslen's hard line on cliches is reasonable. Instead, use words with strong mental imagery... like slang or "power" words. (And be careful with those. Many of them have also become overused.) Alex |
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Neil, According to his website, Andy Maslen's definitely shown he can do good work for his clients. But I don't know about this "never using cliché." You can use cliché if demonstrating how some promises are so overused that they lose there meaning. For example, in stressing your difference as a company and guarantee (b2b parts supplier) cliché can imply the customer hears the same thing from everyone. In this, that other companies promises are worn out -- "Satisfaction guaranteed? What does that really mean to you who puts your reputation on the line when choosing {SOLUTION}. It's like saying something cliché like, 'Keep your fingers crossed.'The glaring admission is meant to take the pressure off a purchasing agent who ordered the wrong part. They won't be made to look stupid because engineering transcribed a number of a requisition. Anyway, you don't need our confirmation if the book is good or not. How did what you learn work in your business? A new book is always a good reason to add another step to a follow up campaign. I find that most copy writing advice is worth a test against something you know works for you -- but even challenging it can work with the right approach too. Sincerely, Justin |
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You can use cliches to write some effective copy. Just don't have a cliche in every paragraph. Mix your cliches with some good analogies and metaphors. This helps move your reader along your copy to your call to action. They help grease the slide. |
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