Who do you think are the best direct response internet marketers and copywriters in the world?

walterstewart1949 · 07-27-2011, 01:38 PM

Who do you think are the best direct response internet marketers and copywriters in the world? Would love to hear your thoughts.

arfasaira · 07-27-2011, 01:48 PM

Off the top of my head...

Clayton Makepeace
Drayton Bird
Dan Kennedy
Carline Anglade-Cole
John Carlton
Gary Bencivenga

and a whole load more, but can't think right now!

walterstewart1949 · 07-27-2011, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arfasaira

Off the top of my head...

Clayton Makepeace
Drayton Bird
Dan Kennedy
Carline Anglade-Cole
John Carlton
Gary Bencivenga

and a whole load more, but can't think right now!

Awesome start!!

I was thinking...

Frank Kern
Jeff Walker
Matt Bacak
Yanik Silver
Jeff Johnson

Ansar Pasha · 07-27-2011, 02:03 PM

I agree with Arfasaira, although I haven't personally read much of Carline Anglade-Cole's work. That said, the "mainstream" list is usually the same for most copywriters.

Some other copywriters works who I've become familiar with through samples, products or blogs:

Ben Settle
Vin Montello
Chris Haddad
Kevin Rogers
Malcom Lambe

I'm sure I'm missing a few here... so don't get cut if I missed you

Ansar

Alex Cohen · 07-27-2011, 02:08 PM

So far we've seen people listed above who've done a great job of positioning themselves.

But are they the best?

Not necessarily. There are numerous internet marketers and copywriters who operate behind the curtain, and you can be sure some of them are top drawer too.

Alex

weborithm · 07-27-2011, 02:09 PM

Can anyone link to some of their work?

walterstewart1949 · 07-27-2011, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Cohen

So far we've seen people listed above who've done a great job of positioning themselves.

But are they the best?

Not necessarily. There are numerous internet marketers and copywriters who operate behind the curtain, and you can be sure some of them are top drawer too.

Alex

I agree with you 100% we don't really know.

I know that Gary Halbert was one of the best when he was alive and there are many examples, proof sources of that available on video and on his website.

walterstewart1949 · 07-27-2011, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ansar Pasha

I agree with Arfasaira, although I haven't personally read much of Carline Anglade-Cole's work. That said, the "mainstream" list is usually the same for most copywriters.

Some other copywriters works who I've become familiar with through samples, products or blogs:

Ben Settle
Vin Montello
Chris Haddad
Kevin Rogers
Malcom Lambe

I'm sure I'm missing a few here... so don't get cut if I missed you

Ansar

Thanks!! I have never heard of any of those marketers.

arfasaira · 07-27-2011, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Cohen

So far we've seen people listed above who've done a great job of positioning themselves.

But are they the best?

Not necessarily. There are numerous internet marketers and copywriters who operate behind the curtain, and you can be sure some of them are top drawer too.

Alex

Come on Alex, spill the beans then!

ARSuarez · 07-27-2011, 02:33 PM

From the ones who have positioned themselves:

1. Clayton Makepeace
2. Gary Bencivenga
3. Ken McArthy (sp)
4. Dan Kennedy
5. Drayton Bird
6. Michael Masterson
7. Bob Bly

Of course, you can put others like Carlton. But I'm speaking of folks who market themselves as experts.

And the living.

-Angel

walterstewart1949 · 07-27-2011, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARSuarez

From the ones who have positioned themselves:

1. Clayton Makepeace
2. Gary Bencivenga
3. Ken McArthy (sp)
4. Dan Kennedy
5. Drayton Bird
6. Michael Masterson
7. Bob Bly

Of course, you can put others like Carlton. But I'm speaking of folks who market themselves as experts.

And the living.

-Angel

John Carlton right Angel?

ARSuarez · 07-27-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by walterstewart1949

John Carlton right Angel?

Yessir! That'd be him.

Alex Cohen · 07-27-2011, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arfasaira

Come on Alex, spill the beans then!

LOL

Wish I knew.

Alex

Alex Cohen · 07-27-2011, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weborithm

Can anyone link to some of their work?

Here's three good ones...

Makepeace: Agarigold Special Report
Carlton: OHP Direct - Golf Instructional - Golf School - Golf Training - Golf Teachers - Golf Tips - Lower Scores -
Bencivenga: Bencivenga 100 Seminar

Alex

davemiz · 07-27-2011, 04:41 PM

i'm sure theres a lot of others who aren't mentioned... who's work is KILLIN it and making their clients a lotta money...

John Breese · 07-27-2011, 04:55 PM

Well since Alex Cohen's holding out, I'll sum up a couple of darkhorses:

Copywriter Jody Madron - Copywriting Services

Len Bailey, Copywriter/Consultant, Asheville, NC, Copywriter

Troy White-Copywriter-Marketing Campaigns-Lead Generation-Copywriting-Direct Response Marketing-Marketing Campaigns

Not to take away from any of the copywriters/direct salesmen mentioned in this thread, but it is true that some position themselves for public consumption, while others stay in the shade...reclusive "hitmen."

ARSuarez · 07-27-2011, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Breese

Well since Alex Cohen's holding out, I'll sum up a couple of darkhorses:

Copywriter Jody Madron - Copywriting Services

Len Bailey, Copywriter/Consultant, Asheville, NC, Copywriter

Troy White-Copywriter-Marketing Campaigns-Lead Generation-Copywriting-Direct Response Marketing-Marketing Campaigns

Not to take away from any of the copywriters/direct salesmen mentioned in this thread, but it is true that some position themselves for public consumption, while others stay in the shade...reclusive "hitmen."

Right on, John.

Funny enough, I was just looking at Jody's page the other day, thinking, "Man, this guy is good."

Also, if you want to see great copy then look into material from Porter Stansberry. Fantastic copywriter: http://www.stansberryresearch.com/pr...VD/WPSIM700/PR

The promo above is killing it - so enjoy all.

-Angel

ewenmack · 07-27-2011, 08:27 PM

If you had Gary Bencivenga bringing in the moolah for you...

and he retired...

who would you call in?

Well we can look at who Gary worked for and who replaced him.

That man's name is Doug D'Anna.

http://www.dougdanna.com/

Best,
Ewen

walterstewart1949 · 07-28-2011, 06:54 AM

Great thread and great examples!

What about Eben Pagan? Anyone ever heard of him or know of his works? like doubleyourdating.com

John Breese · 07-28-2011, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARSuarez

Right on, John.

Funny enough, I was just looking at Jody's page the other day, thinking, "Man, this guy is good."

Also, if you want to see great copy then look into material from Porter Stansberry. Fantastic copywriter: Stansberry's Investment Advisory

The promo above is killing it - so enjoy all.

-Angel

Wow, I really didn't expect to see a company like Stansberry using that format....sure speaks volumes.

Thanks for the share!

John Breese · 07-28-2011, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walterstewart1949

Great threat and great examples!

What about Eben Pagan? Anyone ever heard of him or know of his works? like doubleyourdating.com

I was told Eben has a massive writing team behind him.

colmodwyer · 07-28-2011, 09:42 AM

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Wow, I really didn't expect to see a company like Stansberry using that format...

Copywriter is Mike Palmer... and I heard from a marketer at S&A, that promo has now pulled in THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND names!

That's how Palmer positions himself.

Colm

ARSuarez · 07-28-2011, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colmodwyer

Copywriter is Mike Palmer... and I heard from a marketer at S&A, that promo has now pulled in THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND names!

That's how Palmer positions himself.

Colm

It was co-written by Palmer and Stansberry - and I believe Palmer gave most of the credit to Porter.

And yeah - I think your figures are correct!

-Angel

Dean Jackson · 07-28-2011, 12:50 PM

Great list folks... there's also a guy named "Craig Garber" that writes some damn good copy(Gary Halbert personally trained him).

... although, I was a little bit wierded out by him at first, since I had only read his "automatic pimping" sales letter (until I read the story behind it)... lol.

I've met a few pimps before, and they're nothing like what this letter describes. Although if you want to stereotype then I guess this would hit your "hot buttons"!

Dean

Alex Cohen · 07-28-2011, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walterstewart1949

Great threat and great examples!

What about Eben Pagan? Anyone ever heard of him or know of his works? like doubleyourdating.com

Craig Clemens is Eben's copywriter. The two did an interview in which Craig reveals the formula he uses to write the doubleyourdating.com sales letters.

The interview is one of 6 audios included in Eben's "Print Persuasion Masterclass" CD set. I see it for sale on eBay from time-to-time. The set is well worth listening to.

Alex

Royce24 · 07-28-2011, 04:06 PM

I think its this order

Frank kern
John Reese
Yanik Silver
Dan Kennedy
Daegan Smith

Hugh Thyer · 07-28-2011, 05:17 PM

This list isn't complete without Parris Lampropoulos who holds most of the controls for his clients. Some very well credentialed copywriters I know rate him as the #1 in the world right now.

Ross Bowring · 07-28-2011, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ARSuarez

Right on, John.

Funny enough, I was just looking at Jody's page the other day, thinking, "Man, this guy is good."

Also, if you want to see great copy then look into material from Porter Stansberry. Fantastic copywriter: Stansberry's Investment Advisory

The promo above is killing it - so enjoy all.

-Angel

Another Palmer letter to enjoy...

How I discovered the secret of the Best Golf Vacation in the World

To my eyes, what makes his letters special is their exhaustive research. He can write and very well, but the detailed research in the Porter letter is what makes it outstanding.

That journalistic digging gives you so much more ammunition. Not just on a basic "proof" level, but in terms of being able to ratchet up the entertainment and newsy value.

--- Ross

Blake King · 07-29-2011, 08:27 PM

Gary Halbert above all.
Tina Lorenz is very good too and sometimes writes for Frank Kern.

And in the IM niche, Jason Fladlien is good.

Mark Andrews · 07-29-2011, 08:36 PM

Kevin Rogers - John Carlton's top copywriter. Trained by Vin Montello.

davemiz · 07-30-2011, 09:11 AM

ya... tinas very good....

the financial stuff is somewhat misleading with numbers... their niche is much bigger, full of PWM (players with money)... and the offers are high ticket (traders have money)...

good copy + big list (its easy to get stock names - TONS of lead companies)

i've heard mike williams is doing well with his copy lately... (lotta the cb stuff)... also ryan fletcher.... did a bunch of agora stuff....

Ken_Caudill · 07-30-2011, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by walterstewart1949

Who do you think are the best direct response internet marketers and copywriters in the world? Would love to hear your thoughts.

The one with the most shills.

colmodwyer · 07-30-2011, 03:19 PM

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To my eyes, what makes his letters special is their exhaustive research. He can write and very well, but the detailed research in the Porter letter is what makes it outstanding.

Quite right Ross. A lot of the "End of America" promo is newsletter editorial Porter has written over the years.

Speaking of detailed research, one of the best in the business at it, and not yet mentioned in this thread is Jack Forde.

Here's one of his best-known current hits...

1,354 Years in the Making: The "NEW" War That Could Rocket Oil Past $220 Before 2011

Colm

ARSuarez · 07-31-2011, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colmodwyer

Quite right Ross. A lot of the "End of America" promo is newsletter editorial Porter has written over the years.

Speaking of detailed research, one of the best in the business at it, and not yet mentioned in this thread is Jack Forde.

Here's one of his best-known current hits...

1,354 Years in the Making: The "NEW" War That Could Rocket Oil Past $220 Before 2011

Colm

It's beautiful.

Thanks for the link.

-Angel

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