Copywriter Needed To Write 150+ Articles.

[Mike Adams]

I need a good copywriter to wite articles for our internet marketing/ site design blog. This will be on ongoing project. The articles must be 3-5 paragraphs and 5-7 sentences per paragraph. I have a current list of 150-200 (and growing) topics that I will need articles on. You must have general knowledge about internet marketing and site design.

I need at least 2-3 articles per day, everyday, minimum. I can pay you every day after I review the articles. PM me your rate and turnaround time.

[Amidala]

Hi,

I am currently working with a team of native English writers and we will be able to take on some workload. Let me know if you still need writers.
Thanks

[MontelloMarketing]

You need an article writer... NOT a copywriter. Unless of course you're looking to spend thousands on each article. Are you?

Didn't think so. The term is "article writer." You'd serve yourself well by using that term.

[precious007]

I think he needs a copy-writer Montello. You just don't make sense.

Copy-written articles are a lot cheaper than articles written from scratch.

I'm interested in your offer. I can provide SEO friendly, unique copy-written articles on any niche possible.

[Cherilyn Woodhouse]

Actually, precious, copy-written means written with the tactics and principles of persuasion, by a copywriter. Here's a wikipedia article on the subject.

Although, Precious, I must thank you... It is you, and others like you, that are causing serious miscommunications within the industry, while devaluing the work that REAL copywriters do.

I am a copywriter. I don't spin articles, I write sales materials and consult on the profitability of online projects.

Someone who spins articles is STILL an article writer... Or even an article spinner. But definitely NOT a copywriter.

Real copywriters are actually offended by article writers using the term to describe themselves. It devalues everything we do down to "filler content" that a lot of article writers produce.

Article writers, and article spinners, should be avoided. Content writers can do amazing things with words to drive traffic, and you should hire them whenever possible over article writers & spinners. Then hire a true copywriter to write the sales materials that convert the expert content writer's traffic into sales.

- Cherilyn

P.S. By the way, no offence intended to the OP - you simply didn't know.

I would recommend you look at what the articles are for. If humans will actually read them, I would recommend a true content writer - someone who will likely charge more than $5 an article, and will never even bother to tell you that their work is copyscape passed - simply because they take such pride in their work that they would be stunned if you asked. The work a real content writer can produce is well worth the money. It drives strong, targeted traffic, and has a higher return on investment than filler content (even if the filler is cheaper, and thus enticing, it isn't always the best solution!)

If the articles are filler content, for SEO purposes, and just generic fluff, hire an article writer under $5 - someone like precious here. They should be able to write something sufficient to fill a web page, and perhaps print out and use in place of bathroom tissue.

Hope that helps!

[MontelloMarketing]

Originally Posted by precious007

I think he needs a copy-writer Montello. You just don't make sense.

Copy-written articles are a lot cheaper than articles written from scratch.

Wow... I think Cherilyn covered this but... wow.

If anyone is still unclear (even though this kind of mistake has been made hundreds of times here)...

Copywriter: Writer who uses persuasion to get people to buy something.
Copyrighter: Someone who handles the legalities of the ownership of intellectual material (written words, songs, videos, etc.).

And now I think precious you're talking about a whole different animal. You're talking about (I think) someone who rewrites other peoples' articles (or their own) and sells them cheaper than if those articles were original. Something like a plr or open license thing I'm guessing... Either way... not a copywriter (which has nothing to do with copying anything).

[Collette]

Originally Posted by precious007

I think he needs a copy-writer Montello. You just don't make sense.

Copy-written articles are a lot cheaper than articles written from scratch.

I'm interested in your offer. I can provide SEO friendly, unique copy-written articles on any niche possible.

Actually, as usual, Montello makes perfect sense. But I can understand why his comment didn't make sense to you.

Judging from your placement of the hyphen in "copy-written", you are referring to copying an existing article and spinning the content.

Such an article should be cheaper than an article written from scratch - because someone else has already done the work for you. I'm not sure that you could (or should) refer to the result as "unique", though.

That would seem to violate the "Truth in Advertising" rule.

[Raydal]

I think that ADMIN may have to include article writing as a part of
this section of the WF or make a separate one.

I don't think we are going to get away from the subject of article
writing popping up every once in a while. At least this is the closest
subject area to article writing on the entire board.

-Ray Edwards

[shreekay85]

yup montello covered it..different things altogether..

although an article writer with some sense of "persuasion" in article writing would be appreciated.nothing wrong with good content producers,but a content producer who can through his content(lets say ezine articles) persuade the reader to check the resouce box link to go on to the sales material would be awesome..

[Dean Dhuli]

Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing

Wow... I think Cherilyn covered this but... wow.

If anyone is still unclear (even though this kind of mistake has been made hundreds of times here)...

Copywriter: Writer who uses persuasion to get people to buy something.
Copyrighter: Someone who handles the legalities of the ownership of intellectual material (written words, songs, videos, etc.).

And now I think precious you're talking about a whole different animal. You're talking about (I think) someone who rewrites other peoples' articles (or their own) and sells them cheaper than if those articles were original. Something like a plr or open license thing I'm guessing... Either way... not a copywriter (which has nothing to do with copying anything).

Vin,

This type of posts will keep springing up everyday and we'll have to keep repeating the same reply again and again. The problem is in the way the forum is structured.

I talked about this in another thread, but it hardly got any attention.

As long as people have to post "anything and everything" even remotely related to copywriting in the same forum, this kind of problem is bound to continue.


Regards,
Dean Dhuli.

[precious007]

Geeze I hate people giving links to Wikipedia. Would you mind keeping it for yourself? I've done re-writes for people like Alex X if you can take a minute to Google it. Come on .. Writing means creating.. Copy-writing is re-phrasing let's get it straight and don't mess up the the jargon.

" copywrite is not listed by major dictionaries.[1] Copywrite as a noun is always incorrect "

Sorry bout' that. I'm not even English native and I know more than you.

"Thus, the purpose of marketing copy, or promotional text, is to persuade the reader, listener or viewer to act — for example, to buy a product or subscribe to a certain viewpoint. Alternatively, copy might also be intended to dissuade a reader. Copywriting is "getting across the perfect message, with the perfect words."

Which unfortunately most "copy-writers' out there do not have a clue of how it's done. Because they ain't marketers. I hope you got my point.

[Dean Dhuli]

Originally Posted by precious007

Geeze I hate people giving links to Wikipedia. Would you mind keeping it for yourself? I've done re-writes for people like Alex X if you can take a minute to Google it. Come on .. Writing means creating.. Copy-writing is re-phrasing let's get it straight and don't mess up the the jargon.

Well, I'm speechless!

[precious007]

Well at least "Cherilyn Lester" should be. And I am not insulting or trying to upset anyone, but people tend to talk on forums about things they don't even have a clue about.

As I said I'm a copy-writer myself (not the best one out there definitely), but most people I've hired in the past do not even have a clue about writing a copy. (or even understand the meaning of copy-writes) It has to sell for God sakes. People have to act. The words have to pre-sell the product ..

[MontelloMarketing]

precious... you have no idea. If you think copywriting is "rephrasing" then wow... you're clueless. And if the phrase "copy-writes" is one you know, or think actually exists... wow... I mean... holy cow and wow.

[Cherilyn Woodhouse]

Wow - as someone who actually is a copywriter, I can tell you it has nothing to do with rephrasing. And I don't just hang out my shingle as a copywriter, I've actually written for dozens of clients over nearly 3 years as a full-time copywriter.

And I write sales materials. I don't rephrase materials.

But there is no debating this topic with you it appears. I quoted Wikipedia simply to try to demonstrate my point. Your dictionary quote simply demonstrated MY point, which is confusing...

But anyhow, the general consensus here is that a copywriter is a person who writes sales materials, not someone who rephrases content. You can believe you are right, but please - don't try and ever promote your services. Your clients will be very upset.

- Cherilyn

[Collette]

Originally Posted by precious007

... And I am not insulting... anyone

And yet - you succeeded admirably in insulting some of the most knowledgable people here. Congratulations. Must be those stellar writing skills you're apparently hiding.

Originally Posted by precious007

...but people tend to talk on forums about things they don't even have a clue about.

A wonderful example of how irony escapes the clueless.

Originally Posted by precious007

As I said I'm a copy-writer myself (not the best one out there definitely)...

Definitely.

Originally Posted by precious007

...but most people I've hired in the past do not even have a clue about writing a copy. (or even understand the meaning of copy-writes) ...

Blind leading the blind.

[precious007]

Cherilyn Lester

What should someone that re-phrases materials be called then?

And if you're such a good copy-writer then why are you afraid of your competition?

"Although, Precious, I must thank you... It is you, and others like you, that are causing serious miscommunications within the industry, while devaluing the work that REAL copywriters do."

You didn't get my point. Here's a short paragraph from wikipedia that will make you understand.

"For example, a copywriter writes an ad to sell a car, while a technical writer writes the operator's manual explaining how to use it. "

Ok now let me explain. If a customer ask you to write 3 copies for him what are you going to do ? I'm sure you are just rephrasing already written articles, cause' there isn't much else you can do. You aren't an expert on every niche, are you ?
Hope you got my point.
Peace!

[Tekstar]

Not sure why I am even wasting my time, but here is the quote from the link you gave that sums it up.

"Copywriting can appear in direct mail pieces, taglines, jingle lyrics, web page content (although if the purpose is not ultimately promotional, its author might prefer to be called a content writer.)"

So basically Precious, you are a "content writer" not a Copywriter.

But hey whatever, you did say you were a non native English speaker so maybe the word "copywriter" does not translate well or has the same meaning in your language.

Either way, I do agree there needs to be a sub forum for Article/content writers.

-Bob

[precious007]

People usually don't make the difference between copy-writers and writers, this is why I was referring to the term copy-writing as a jargon because that's what it is.

Most webmasters/marketers are looking for content (articles).

The whole thread was started by someone that needs articles (re-writes) not sales copies, not landing pages. Basically the whole thread has been a total non-sense.

As you notice the thread's title is "Copywriter Needed To Write 150+ Articles". Is there anything wrong about it? In my own experience of well over one year I can it is not. Most webmasters call content writers --- "copy-writers'. Basically it is the same thing.

In my language, which is Romanian, a writer is someone that creates, may it be literature or poems, that has published his own books. The term "writer" is only used to call someone like Shakespeare.

[MontelloMarketing]

Originally Posted by precious007

People usually don't make the difference between copy-writers and writers, this is why I was referring to the term copy-writing as a jargon because that's what it is.

These people you speak of are wrong.

As you notice the thread's title is "Copywriter Needed To Write 150+ Articles". Is there anything wrong about it? In my own experience of well over one year I can it is not.

In my experience as a writer (well over 19 years) there's plenty wrong with it.

Most webmasters call content writers --- "copy-writers'. Basically it is the same thing.

If most americans call romanians russion, is that okay because "basically it's the same thing?"

In my language, which is Romanian, a writer is someone that creates, may it be literature or poems, that has published his own books. The term "writer" is only used to call someone like Shakespeare

At least understand that the chosen language for international business isn't Romanian. Therefore we probably shouldn't go by their unique language rules. A writer is someone who writes for a living. You need 150 articles written... You need an article writer... not a copywriter. You need really cheap articles that aren't unique, but are copied from another writer's work... you need what's called a hack.

[Mark McClure]

Vin & team,

This whole thread reads like a stand up comic routine.

Thanks guys ;-)

[MsDebra]

I am available to help you with your request. Please PM me with particulars.

[RebeccaL]

If you're after content and not sales copy then I can do it.
Check out the link in my sig.
I can create custom packages based on your needs.

[mtrent]

Hello,

I am able to easily write articles to your standards.

Your articles (150+) would probably only take 1-2 weeks to complete

I can be contacted at aerosnosathotmail.com

[rags]

Originally Posted by precious007

I think he needs a copy-writer Montello. You just don't make sense.

Copy-written articles are a lot cheaper than articles written from scratch.

I'm interested in your offer. I can provide SEO friendly, unique copy-written articles on any niche possible.

Good grief.

[CourtneyJames]

I'll admit,

I'm a newbie when it comes to copywriting.

But, it seems pretty straight forward to me...

Copywriters persuade. Article writers write filler. I didn't choose to be an copywriter to create filler or putty for web sites.

You chose to be a copywriter because you want to get results.
You want to SELL.

I can see why all the veterans are so upset here.

[Hunter06]

I think what upsets the veterans here is ignorance of the basic rules of English grammar, poorly constructed argument, arrogance, rudeness, lack of respect, poor grasp of the nuances of the English/American language and a complete and utter lack of knowledge of the terms associated with the industry in which some here claim professional experience.

Could someone please delete this thread, it's just too painful to read!

[erinwrites]

Precious: What you are talking about is called "rewriting."

Unfortunately English is not structured like German in which the word "copywriter" or "copy-writer" would most likely mean someone who copies writing.

When dealing with professional writing "copy" actually means "text" not "reproducing"