Go Back   WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > The Copywriting Forum
Register Blogs FAQ Social Groups CalendarHelp Desk

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-30-2012, 06:24 PM   #1
Rick Duris CopyRanger.com
War Room Member
 
RickDuris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Laguna Beach, CA
Posts: 1,182
Thanks: 513
Thanked 1,437 Times in 519 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to RickDuris
Default Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

[post deleted]

RickDuris is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2012, 07:26 AM   #2
The Copy Magnet
War Room Member
 
arfasaira's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 480
Thanks: 669
Thanked 327 Times in 176 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to arfasaira
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post
Also, if you have your own keyword research strategies, it would be wonderful for you to post them here.

I discovered literall hundreds of tools and utilities are out there.

- Rick Duris
I also use Google Trends, especially when dealing with highly competitive niches such as weight loss.

And Rick, your advice on research is pure gold - have you considered putting a product together? Like 'The Copywriter's Guide To impeccable Research' or something?

I reckon everyone could learn from it!

arfasaira is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2012, 07:44 PM   #3
Rick Duris CopyRanger.com
War Room Member
 
RickDuris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Laguna Beach, CA
Posts: 1,182
Thanks: 513
Thanked 1,437 Times in 519 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to RickDuris
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

Quote:
Originally Posted by arfasaira View Post
I also use Google Trends, especially when dealing with highly competitive niches such as weight loss.

And Rick, your advice on research is pure gold - have you considered putting a product together? Like 'The Copywriter's Guide To impeccable Research' or something?

I reckon everyone could learn from it!
Thank you. A lot of people tell me I should. Maybe I should follow the good advice on another thread and launch a WSO every day on copywriting research.

What I've discovered is there are so many facets to keyword research, and copywriting research in general, it's mind boggling.

There are so many websites and tools like Google Trends out there that add another piece to the puzzle. It's really amazing.

I'm glad this piece was useful to you.

- Rick Duris

RickDuris is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2012, 09:35 PM   #4
HyperActive Warrior
 
RHert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Utah
Posts: 225
Thanks: 6
Thanked 38 Times in 32 Posts
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

Research is so much a part of copywriting. If you don't know your audience how are you supposed to write for them? Knowing what they want makes all the difference. Thanks for the links. I use many of them myself.

Copywriting at it's Best! - Tips and tricks to connect with your reader.
RHert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2012, 02:43 AM   #5
The Copy Magnet
War Room Member
 
arfasaira's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
Posts: 480
Thanks: 669
Thanked 327 Times in 176 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to arfasaira
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post
Thank you. A lot of people tell me I should. Maybe I should follow the good advice on another thread and launch a WSO every day on copywriting research.

What I've discovered is there are so many facets to keyword research, and copywriting research in general, it's mind boggling.

There are so many websites and tools like Google Trends out there that add another piece to the puzzle. It's really amazing.

I'm glad this piece was useful to you.

- Rick Duris
Rick,

So far your advice has been gold - and yes I do think you should do some product on research. When we learn to write copy, it's all-consuming and we just concentrate on the writing...

...and have to figure out the rest for ourselves!

I think anything which makes our life easier and our work easier is certainly worth it and would be a welcome addition to any serious copywriter who wants to get the big contracts and projects!

When I do marketing reports, they are pretty in-depth - usually taking me several hours to put together and contain more than enough information for any company to take it away and use it as a blueprint for their marketing.

I'll check out Amazon.com for trends, magazines, Facebook, LinkedIn and forums etc, as well as Ezine...


but what you've provided has added a whole new dimension to the whole research thing.

I've worked out the marketing and positioning to a tee, but have to admit the stuff you've shared about research has been a real eye-opener!

Hope to see more of it!


arfasaira is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-01-2012, 04:02 AM   #6
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
ewenmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 2,092
Thanks: 790
Thanked 1,027 Times in 558 Posts
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

There's a part within Adwords called macros.

You may know about it, I didn't until yesterday.

What it does is allow the headline to change in your ad to match the searcher's term.

This means it becomes dynamic and therefore increases your quality score,
increase clickthru's, higher placement and lower cost per click.

Then there is another whole layer of testing in the conversion to sales.

Some keywords may get more clickthru's but covert less into sales/optin's
than the other keywords.

So lot's of places to test and measure!

Best,
Ewen
ewenmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 12:49 PM   #7
Warrior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

I think the content itself plays an important role in copywriting, and it is closely connected with research. To know the audience is good, but is not enough to gain their attention and coming back. Knowing the subject and audience makes the difference.

HarryHarper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2012, 08:58 AM   #8
Offline Consultant
War Room Member
 
Dexx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Alberta, Canada
Posts: 1,900
Thanks: 612
Thanked 613 Times in 318 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

Rick, I see your original post has been deleted, are there plans to release the information as a WSO?

I didn't get a chance to view it, but this post was recommended as a resource to check out for doing copywriting research...it would be nice to see what you previously had suggested.

Cheers,

~Dexx

Dexx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2012, 10:44 AM   #9
Rick Duris CopyRanger.com
War Room Member
 
RickDuris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Laguna Beach, CA
Posts: 1,182
Thanks: 513
Thanked 1,437 Times in 519 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to RickDuris
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

Unfortunately, there are no future plans. Sometimes, I share a bit too much and I have to pull back. This is one of those times.

RickDuris is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-01-2012, 10:58 AM   #10
Call Me! 626.280.6865
War Room Member
 
copyassassin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Monrovia CA
Posts: 167
Thanks: 72
Thanked 326 Times in 53 Posts
Social Networking View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

Quote:
Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post
Unfortunately, there are no future plans. Sometimes, I share a bit too much and I have to pull back. This is one of those times.
such a tease

copyassassin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 07:59 AM   #11
Warrior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 13
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

someone here working with niche finder? or samurai market? how do you find good keywords?
Sywebs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 08:18 AM   #12
Warrior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Using Keyword Research to Boost Your Copywriting

Research is obviously an important part of copywriting, and keyword research can help your copy be more visible in the search engines but, in my opinion, never should search engine optimisation tactics impede on exciting writing. There is a real risk that trying to make your piece keyword rich will just make it spammy and boring to read.

I always think, the reader is my target, not the search engines.
zaccolbert is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > The Copywriting Forum

Tags
boost, copyranger, copywriting, keyword, keyword research, research, rick duris

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:26 PM.