Go Back   WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > The Copywriting Forum
Register Blogs FAQ Social Groups CalendarHelp Desk

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-28-2008, 09:14 AM   #1
Money Making Momma
War Room Member
 
Sylvia Meier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada.
Posts: 1,599
Blog Entries: 60
Thanks: 462
Thanked 308 Times in 166 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Tip Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Hey everyone,
I would like to ask if anyone could give me any criticism on my first sales letter. As I said it is my first one so I am sure it is really kinda rough.

Weekly Moments

Any comments greatly appreciated,
Sylvia

Sylvia Meier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2008, 10:24 AM   #2
Senior Warrior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,030
Thanks: 286
Thanked 85 Times in 71 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

With the headline you have, I'm not really clear on what you are selling and the benefit (whats your offer? What are you offering me?) Maybe you can make it more clear?
MaskedMarketer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2008, 10:45 AM   #3
Money Making Momma
War Room Member
 
Sylvia Meier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada.
Posts: 1,599
Blog Entries: 60
Thanks: 462
Thanked 308 Times in 166 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Okay I changed the headline to better reflect the product benefits and problem.

Sylvia Meier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2008, 07:24 PM   #4
Judy K - WSOTD Copywriter
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Jose (Silicon Valley), CA , USA.
Posts: 4,617
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 151
Thanked 238 Times in 162 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to zapseo
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Sylvia -- LOVE the concept and the product idea.

But first -- I would not use "weekly". It's a homonym with, well, "weakly", and this has the potential to trigger feelings you simply don't want the reader of your salesletter feeling.

And only a moment?

If I felt that way 90% of the time, I'd need a whole lot more than a weekly moment, let me tell you!

A "weakly" moment ain't much of a benefit.

And it certainly doesn't seem to hold much promise against all the trials & tribulations you are describing.

Later in the letter is better.

But it's too late.

I'd feel depressed --trapped -- just reading the headline.

Putting myself in the position of your market -- I'm stressed, I'm harried -- I seriously want someone to throw me a lifesaver. A "weekly moment" doesn't sound like it's got enough firepower to do that.

Live JoyFully!

Judy Kettenhofen, Profit Strategist/Copywriter
NextDay Copy

zapseo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2008, 10:36 PM   #5
Money Making Momma
War Room Member
 
Sylvia Meier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada.
Posts: 1,599
Blog Entries: 60
Thanks: 462
Thanked 308 Times in 166 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Judy,
I understand what you are saying but from the market research I did, which is interviewing a lot of friends and my sisters and such they all kept coming back to the same thing, they wish they had, even for just a moment, time for themselves. And when I asked the type of time-frame they would prefer, they said they would want at least a weekly moment, because of the lack of time they have. I mentioned maybe having a daily moment and they said no way, doesn't seem so believable. Their lives come across as being so hectic that they don't expect in any way to have a daily moment to themselves, but that they should be able to get a weekly moment, hence how I came up with the name.

I never thought about the potential trigger of it being associated with "weak."

Any suggestions for a better headline then?

(I may just try it this way though because everyone in the "market" I am selling to seemed really caught by it and kept on reading it right to the guarantee.)

Thanks though for the input.

Sylvia

Sylvia Meier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 08:33 AM   #6
Trust Establisher
War Room Member
 
Justin Mandel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Long Island, NY.
Posts: 2,968
Thanks: 526
Thanked 170 Times in 127 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Justin Mandel
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Sorry Sylvia I'm just not getting what a "weekly moment" really is.

IMHO you need to change this so your market *instantly* gets what you're trying to get across WITHOUT explaining it to them.

Justin Mandel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 04:28 PM   #7
Money Making Momma
War Room Member
 
Sylvia Meier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada.
Posts: 1,599
Blog Entries: 60
Thanks: 462
Thanked 308 Times in 166 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Nevermind everyone. I had a wonderful warrior step forward and redo my efforts while keeping it very much me. To the warrior thank you very very much.

Sylvia

Sylvia Meier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 04:37 PM   #8
Judy K - WSOTD Copywriter
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Jose (Silicon Valley), CA , USA.
Posts: 4,617
Blog Entries: 1
Thanks: 151
Thanked 238 Times in 162 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to zapseo
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

And they did a nice job, Sylvia.

zapseo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 05:04 PM   #9
Rockstar Mystic
War Room Member
 
Alexandre Valois's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Montreal, Canada
Posts: 1,834
Thanks: 198
Thanked 222 Times in 107 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Alexandre Valois
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Sylvia, forgive me if I sound like a prick here, but I really believe that someone has to ask now:

You say that a warrior stepped forward and gave you a hand (hat's off to the mysterious warrior). Congratulations on that.

Now, certainly you did learn something from the help that was provided? If so, care to share that nugget with us fellow copywriters?

I'm sure that could help a lot of struggling warriors.

...... On another note:

You mention that you did some research and asked people around you. This is truly a great way to start, actually interviewing your target market. But one thing to keep in mind when selling something, in order to ignite a person's passion, is to go further than they themselves go. Go where they don't dare, and move them.

They said they wanted, even if just for a moment, be able to have time to themselves.
Do you really think they just one "one moment"?
Or are they truly desperate to regain the dream, the glamour, the passion and feeling of youth?

These are just examples of the core emotions that your prospect will never tell you about when you ask what they want, but it is.

Now, sell them what they want, give them what they need, even if just "for a moment"

Hope this helps.

P.S: Great product idea, I'm sure you will do well with it.

Last edited by Alexandre Valois; 08-29-2008 at 05:07 PM.
Alexandre Valois is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 05:10 PM   #10
Senior Warrior Member
War Room Member
 
Zachary R. Skinner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Beavercreek, Ohio
Posts: 1,489
Thanks: 57
Thanked 113 Times in 25 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Your headline doesn't exactly grab the readers attention, it doesn't really say much of anything.

Try something like this instead:

If your romantic flame is starting to dim, then listen up as a....


"Former Relationship Therapist Reveals Her Most Closely Guarded Secrets GUARANTEED To Jumpstart Your Romantic Passion In Under 4 Weeks!"

And How You Can Reclaim Those Heartfelt Moments In Just 1 Night A Week And Without Spending THOUSANDS On Couple's Therapy!

A headline like this one should work much, much better for you. Now just send me $50 and we'll call it even.

Remember that with headlines you really have to grab people's attention and compel them to scroll further down the page. Often times this means adding a little hype.

With a headline like this one, readers will want to learn more about what you're offering and hopefully as they learn more they'll decide to buy.

I hope this helps!





Zachary R. Skinner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 07:51 PM   #11
Money Making Momma
War Room Member
 
Sylvia Meier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada.
Posts: 1,599
Blog Entries: 60
Thanks: 462
Thanked 308 Times in 166 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandre Valois View Post
Sylvia, forgive me if I sound like a prick here, but I really believe that someone has to ask now:

You say that a warrior stepped forward and gave you a hand (hat's off to the mysterious warrior). Congratulations on that.

Now, certainly you did learn something from the help that was provided? If so, care to share that nugget with us fellow copywriters?

I'm sure that could help a lot of struggling warriors.

...... On another note:

You mention that you did some research and asked people around you. This is truly a great way to start, actually interviewing your target market. But one thing to keep in mind when selling something, in order to ignite a person's passion, is to go further than they themselves go. Go where they don't dare, and move them.

They said they wanted, even if just for a moment, be able to have time to themselves.
Do you really think they just one "one moment"?
Or are they truly desperate to regain the dream, the glamour, the passion and feeling of youth?

These are just examples of the core emotions that your prospect will never tell you about when you ask what they want, but it is.

Now, sell them what they want, give them what they need, even if just "for a moment"

Hope this helps.

P.S: Great product idea, I'm sure you will do well with it.
My first thing is I realized that writing sales letters is much different than writing articles and kudo's to the copywriters. It is a lot harder than it looks.

Secondly, I learned that you really have to push the emotion factor. Where I was trying, the real copywriter went well beyond.

And it seems from looking at more sales letters and such, it should be more on a personal level. There are so many that use it, so it obviously works. I wanted to try to refrain from it to some degree but once I read the new letter I realized how much better it works.

More later, dinner time.

Sylvia Meier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 09:54 PM   #12
Money Making Momma
War Room Member
 
Sylvia Meier's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Canada.
Posts: 1,599
Blog Entries: 60
Thanks: 462
Thanked 308 Times in 166 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zachary R. Skinner View Post
Your headline doesn't exactly grab the readers attention, it doesn't really say much of anything.

Try something like this instead:

If your romantic flame is starting to dim, then listen up as a....


"Former Relationship Therapist Reveals Her Most Closely Guarded Secrets GUARANTEED To Jumpstart Your Romantic Passion In Under 4 Weeks!"

And How You Can Reclaim Those Heartfelt Moments In Just 1 Night A Week And Without Spending THOUSANDS On Couple's Therapy!

A headline like this one should work much, much better for you. Now just send me $50 and we'll call it even.

Remember that with headlines you really have to grab people's attention and compel them to scroll further down the page. Often times this means adding a little hype.

With a headline like this one, readers will want to learn more about what you're offering and hopefully as they learn more they'll decide to buy.

I hope this helps!



Zachery,
I understand what you are saying but I don't want to come off like that. I want to be more just me. I don't want to start out with a BS line like former relationship therapist because well..Im not. This is written by one parent, mother, wife for other couples, not some big shot.

I am going to give it a go as is and then see where to go from there.

As for other things I learned from this trial and error. Just keep trying and ask for help when needed. The warriors are a wonderful bunch who will help you reach your goal as long as you take action on the advice given. Doing nothing with it means you are not going to gain anything from it either.

Thanks again everyone.

Sylvia

Sylvia Meier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 10:39 PM   #13
Active Warrior
 
TopNotchContent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Dallas, OR , USA.
Posts: 50
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Critique My First Sales Letter Please

Sylvie,

You have a good start here. I would suggest split testing different headlines (subheads and cross heads) to see if there is any significant difference in conversions. Maybe go to the library and look at previous copies of Cosmo - they have great headlines to model.

Need an article writer? Get high quality 400 word articles for only $10...check out my samples at http://GuaranteedArticles.com.
TopNotchContent is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > The Copywriting Forum

Tags
52 date nights, critique, date nights for parents, letter, sales

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:20 PM.