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First, thanks for your time and attention. I'm seeking newer copywriters, for actual work...that is, you'll be paid. I need a couple of headlines to start, so, first critique a few, OK? This is for the Kindle project I'm working on. I've tested one Kindle book for the last couple of months. Many at my forum have rec'd it for free and have offered valuable feedback. It is at Cosmic Power Gaze (Russell Thomas Collection): Gordon Alexander: Amazon.com: Kindle Store If you send me an email, I'll send you a copy for FREE gjabiz@yahoo.com The reason is so you can see my writing style for this series (about 25 titles). Here are a couple of links to promotions I've done...you don't have to read the promotions, just the headlines and you can either email me, pm here or post up your critiques. The first is a pdf which should automatically open when you hit the link. http://doomgloombliss.com/virgie.pdf Animal Hypnotic-Fascination These will give you a flavor for the series, and the general topics. Thanks again for your time. gjabiz PS I'm not selling anything, I'm LOOKING, ok? |
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Whore is such a brutal word...
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You could say prostitute instead of whore. Just a thought. Ruth P.S. Isn't a pimp someone who owns a prostitute and benefits from their earnings? Sorry, not really my area of expertise........... |
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prostitute, call girl, escort, fallen woman, harlot, hooker, hustler, lady of the evening, pro, slut, streetwalker, strumpet, tramp, working girl
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A woman of that calibre pulling a cool million having a name of Courtasan would be appropriate. If your readership isn't too familiar with the term then high class call girl. Best, Ewen |
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Whore is the right word. It's the most visceral choice. Slaps you in the face. If you write with impact you are going to offend some people. That's the price of impact. Those unwilling to pay it write flaccid copy. |
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My understanding of the word whore is associated with sex. Many high class courtesans don't have sex with their clients. This we may never know about her though. Best, Ewen |
| Warning: To Product Owner Or Service Seller, Don't Write A Word Or Hire An Ad Writer Until... Click Here... "you are nothing but a &^$&#**# genius""To say that he is GENEROUS is an understatement!" "Yea if it wasn't for him I wouldn't be putting a down payment on a 48' yacht next month."Clients are people under my protection. "Nobody can beat him" | |
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Big changes coming soon...
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"whore" is not the right word...it obviously sounds like a guy writing. Women would be turned off. I think the word escort is not only more mysterious, but also better sounding. |
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So the "head" line becomes - Persuasion Secrets of a Million Dollar Callgirl 7 Figure a Year Escort Blows the Lid Off Sex for the Rich & Famous | |
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Something about the whole "persuasion secrets" thing doesn't sound right to me. Can't put my finger on it...but it's not good. Just don't think it resonates with the reader... | |
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Somehow I totally missed that gem in the sub head until you reformatted it. | |
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...and this one - Hos, Hookers, Call Girls, and Rent Boys: Professionals Writing on Life, Love, Money, and Sex | |
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I just entered "escorts" and got over 60 million results. I entered "callgirls" and got 11 million....I then entered "call girls" and most of them talked about "escorts". | |
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| Ads That Work War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: England UK
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I hope Gordon won't mind me mentioning this. But the "pitch" reminded me of a book Dan Kennedy did with Sydney Biddle Barrows. "Uncensored Sales Strategies" Must say though, Gordons copy is a lot better (but like the others have said I wouldn't use the "W" word). Steve |
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In stead of using the word whore or call girl how do you guys feel about taking a direct quote from the copy: "Call me all the names you can think of, but I'm having orgasms all the way to the bank” And using that as the main headline |
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| Mal Lambe War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Paris via Sydney
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| "Escort" brings up all sorts of results - including "escort cars". "Call girl" is far more specific. But whatever. I'm suggesting he uses them both.
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I'm still not sure about the "persuasion secrets" though. It's not right. Wish I could explain why...it's just not what the average reader will understand. | |
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It's about how she's able to charge so damn much. And perhaps this is what the headline should capitalize on. I say... kill the main headline and first deck copy sentence. And do something like: HEADLINE: 7 Figure a Year Escort claims The Secret to her Ridiculous Fee's isn't about SEX, but the result of the “Magic Words” she whispers in her clients' Ears. Deck Copy: Want to know what she says? | |
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I remember reading a course about "ugly yellow signs". These are the signs you see on street corners selling houses. They deliberately look like they're written by some average joe in Magic marker. There was a case study about a guy that used the headline, "Must sell my house because my wife is a whore." He KILLED it with that sign. Response was off the charts compared to others. Visceral works. The headline just has to get them to read the next line. |
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Some of you commented last year, it's been almost a year since that was written. It actually is a promotion for several different products, each a small work to be sold on Kindle. Now I have access to advanced and sophisticated eye tracking devices...and of the scores of headlines which were looked at, the Whore headline got the deepest read into the promotion. Also, there was a significant difference between men and women. To date, and someone got it right, the promotion doesn't match the offer...this version which is targeted to men interested in persuasion techniques. So, much of this doesn't match up. One fellow with the different headline, about orgasms all the way to the bank is a good (in my opinion) one to examine, I appreciate everyone's time and comments. Just as an aside, in thousands of eye tracking studies, it has been proven time and again, the headline and deck copy, followed by the PS are the most read parts of almost all promotion, and the deck copy must get them interested enough to keep reading. Agree with TESTING being the answer and this promotion and variations have been in the testing part for pert near a year. The tests have included market segmentation, including multi-channel testing for different markets and niches including the "pick-up" market, the find a mate, the better sex and romance market... The work is similar to those popular, in the day, little Blue Books, which many of you know from J-H first 100 M. And as you know, he tested titles and headlines like no one else has, turning work done once into several titles in his series. Thanks so much for offering up your advice, it is appreciated. gjabiz |
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If we're just talking headlines here, I see a disconnect Gordon between "Million Dollar" and "Whore." "Whore" does the job of grabbing attention, but the contrast between "million dollar" and "whore" interrupts my attention span, if only for a moment. My reasoning is that while I love the word "Whore" as an attention grabber, most people associate "Whore" with common street level prostitute, as in "Crack whore." "Million dollar" does not compliment "whore." "Persuasion Secrets of a Million Dollar Escort" still retains some visceral association with persuasion and sex, and it eliminates the little speed bump that some may experience due to the incongruity between "million dollar" and "whore." Prospects may be more likely to associate "Escort" with million dollar clients such as Tiger Woods and Eliot Spitzer. It's more lucrative. EDIT: Crap, you just posted while I was making my comment. |
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Thanks Jeremy, still appreciated, and your time as well.
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