Go Back   WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > The Copywriting Forum
Register Blogs FAQ Social Groups CalendarHelp Desk

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-28-2009, 11:54 PM   #1
Geek
War Room Member
 
Re-cycle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 222
Thanks: 6
Thanked 34 Times in 16 Posts
Default Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

Ok so I wanted to share with you all a page that I'm 99% sure it has a subliminal message in the sales letter.

Notice the tiled background: Im pretty sure it says "order" inside each oval in the background.

here is the page: sales letter



weird huh? I wonder if this technique truly works...

Re-cycle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-28-2009, 11:58 PM   #2
Banned
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK and France
Posts: 1,103
Thanks: 261
Thanked 188 Times in 100 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Tom Brite
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?



To be honest i don't see the word order at all... but maybe its my monitor settings or something! To me it just looks like a speech bubble and a lighter area in the middle in a pattern.

Tom Brite
Tom Brite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 12:04 AM   #3
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 180
Thanks: 18
Thanked 33 Times in 24 Posts
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

Nup.. I see the same speech bubble.. if you look at it at an angle (ie look down on it) it looks smudged... but i think thats the guy trying to colour the bubble in photoshop!

There are definitely key words people use and colours etc.. but I think that bubble is quite healthy.

wbakhos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 12:05 AM   #4
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 180
Thanks: 18
Thanked 33 Times in 24 Posts
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

it looks very blackhat though... kinda like under the table profits for blogging.. very dark and secretive.. hehe

wbakhos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 12:06 AM   #5
Banned
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK and France
Posts: 1,103
Thanks: 261
Thanked 188 Times in 100 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Tom Brite
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

Quote:
Originally Posted by wbakhos View Post
Nup.. I see the same speech bubble.. if you look at it at an angle (ie look down on it) it looks smudged... but i think thats the guy trying to colour the bubble in photoshop!

There are definitely key words people use and colours etc.. but I think that bubble is quite healthy.
Actually yeah!

Now when i tilt my laptop screen down and look at it from above it looks like hes smudged a graphic that use to say 'WTF' which is highly amusing if so and the smudges align to that too!

Thanks for the laugh!
Tom Brite
Tom Brite is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 03:38 PM   #6
Joshua Aaron Stanley
 
procopywriter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Posts: 137
Thanks: 1
Thanked 34 Times in 30 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

I think it's a Rorschach test. It's looks like a mathematical formula to me!

Something like 'µ=6vt'

Joshua Aaron Stanley, The 'Spiritual' Copywriter:
procopywriter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 04:41 PM   #7
Fingers of Fury
War Room Member
 
BrianMcLeod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Miami, Florida, USA.
Posts: 2,111
Blog Entries: 5
Thanks: 1,289
Thanked 1,486 Times in 637 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Myspace Profile  View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to BrianMcLeod
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

Subliminal messages to increase sales buy now doesn't work.

Just a bunch of hocus pocus you want this.

When you order today pay attention, it's so obvious do it what they're up to yes.

:O

BrianMcLeod is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 04:54 PM   #8
Use Your Illusion
War Room Member
 
Matt Jutras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 523
Thanks: 188
Thanked 179 Times in 114 Posts
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

NLP made you do it.
Matt Jutras is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 04:55 PM   #9
I.C.Hope
War Room Member
 
Intrepreneur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,515
Thanks: 446
Thanked 227 Times in 181 Posts
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Intrepreneur
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

If you're really interested in submilinal messaging/ influence, check out Salad NLP.

They have some pretty cool products, I learned how to hypnotize people uisng their eriksonian (sp?) hypnosis deck.

Was fun while people let me do it, but eventually they got freaked out.

I want a good keyword researcher, not for min sites but for tech articles. Hit me up if you've got those skillz!
Intrepreneur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 05:36 PM   #10
Use Your Illusion
War Room Member
 
Matt Jutras's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 523
Thanks: 188
Thanked 179 Times in 114 Posts
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

Those Salad decks are killer.

They're supposed to come out with a "sales questions" edition sometime this year...I really can't wait for that one.
Matt Jutras is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 05:42 PM   #11
I.C.Hope
War Room Member
 
Intrepreneur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,515
Thanks: 446
Thanked 227 Times in 181 Posts
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Intrepreneur
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Jutras View Post
Those Salad decks are killer.

They're supposed to come out with a "sales questions" edition sometime this year...I really can't wait for that one.
Yea they are very covert, the influence deck just gives you so many possibilities..

I want to show you how
For the people who already have purchased this product, the bla bla, agree that it's packed full of benefits.
It's ok not to..

Hehe I could go on and on, I've memorized quite a bit of the deck already..

I just love using influence on people, not only in writing but in every day life.

I want a good keyword researcher, not for min sites but for tech articles. Hit me up if you've got those skillz!
Intrepreneur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-29-2009, 08:39 PM   #12
Geek
War Room Member
 
Re-cycle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 222
Thanks: 6
Thanked 34 Times in 16 Posts
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

I heard something about the orange color... it attracts more sales apparently..

Re-cycle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2009, 03:26 AM   #13
Active Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 31
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

Theres nothing subliminal about that.

Try reading one of Dan Kennedy's salesletter - he knows how to create "subliminal" messages, but it's not what most people think it is.

The so-called subliminal thing is not a direct tactic, but rather the effect of words when you speak directly to people on an emotional level.

Forget about "magical colors" on a webpage. It's total BS. Learn good copywriting and learn to get inside the head of your prospects.

That's where the magic happens.
MyOnlineSuccess is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2009, 12:40 PM   #14
Offline Ninja
War Room Member
 
Ron Herman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Philippines
Posts: 86
Thanks: 12
Thanked 19 Times in 9 Posts
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

I photoshopped the background image and adjusted the exposure levels. I also think it once said WTF which is pretty funny for a subliminal message.

The rest of the copy is mediocre at best. But hey, how good does it need to be to sell a $7 product?

Did you buy it?

Frankly, I don't think (buy the product) subliminal messages (buy the product) work well. But then again (buy the product) you never know.
Ron Herman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2009, 04:57 PM   #15
Active Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 35
Thanks: 2
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt Jutras View Post
Those Salad decks are killer.

They're supposed to come out with a "sales questions" edition sometime this year...I really can't wait for that one.

Experience show tha, the saland deck does come in handy. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can use what the decks have to offer. One of the things your going o love about the salad deck is the fact that the language patterns are so hypnotic and low key...enventuall i'll have to let you know I'm using 5 of them on you right now.
icering87 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2009, 05:04 PM   #16
I.C.Hope
War Room Member
 
Intrepreneur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,515
Thanks: 446
Thanked 227 Times in 181 Posts
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Intrepreneur
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

Quote:
Originally Posted by icering87 View Post
Experience show tha, the saland deck does come in handy. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can use what the decks have to offer. One of the things your going o love about the salad deck is the fact that the language patterns are so hypnotic and low key...enventuall i'll have to let you know I'm using 5 of them on you right now.
HAHAHA excellent, they do work well when you fit a few into one sentence.

It's just sheer copywriting excellence.

I want a good keyword researcher, not for min sites but for tech articles. Hit me up if you've got those skillz!
Intrepreneur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2009, 07:39 PM   #17
Banned
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: UK and France
Posts: 1,103
Thanks: 261
Thanked 188 Times in 100 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile  View Member's Twitter Profile  View Member's YouTube Profile
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Tom Brite
Default Re: Subliminal Messages in Sales letters?

Quote:
Originally Posted by icering87 View Post
Experience show tha, the saland deck does come in handy. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you can use what the decks have to offer. One of the things your going o love about the salad deck is the fact that the language patterns are so hypnotic and low key...enventuall i'll have to let you know I'm using 5 of them on you right now.
I had to re-read that one before i realized what was happening. Kinda weird how the human brain just fills in the blanks.

Tom Brite
Tom Brite is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > The Copywriting Forum

Tags
blogging, letters, messages, sales, subliminal

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:39 AM.