New Challenge - Help to sell a dance school membership! :) Critique please

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Hey guys,

I am helping out a friend on his website. He's a pretty epic dancer and I've been taking his classes for a while now... in fact, I'll probably regret trying to get a bunch of new people in there because we have to spend time explaining the basics again lmao But anyway, it's a local business on the Gold Coast, Australia -- Dance Skool. Check it out.

I didn't do the work on it, but there is a fellow copywriter who takes classes there too who wrote the copy. In my opinion, it needs more explanation of what makes it different, but I just don't know how to get it across to people.

Here's what I mean -- at most dance schools, they'll teach you a hip hop routine and send you on your way. Cool, so you just spent $20 and have a few new moves. Now what? You still don't know how to freestyle and make stuff up as you go (which is why most people want to learn how to dance)...

What makes "Dance Skool" different is that you get taught "concepts" (such as hand placements, footwork, grooves, etc) and then you put them together to create your own, original style. You learn how to teach yourself how to dance. You know how to make stuff up on the spot and still look cool

What I'm trying to do is is find a way to make it clear that its a very special studio, with an exceptional teacher. I'm looking for ideas from anyone, experienced or inexperienced, let me have it!

Thank you everyone in advanced.

Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author DougHughes
    This looks good. Better than I what I was expecting for a dance studio.

    Most everything is there. Regarding your positioning angle. That could be a simple positioning statement in the header of the landing page. Something like...

    "We don't just teach you the moves. We teach you how to put it all together to create your own thrilling freestyle routines...on the fly" or something along those lines.

    Couple more points. Instructor descriptions are good. On the LP I would borrow some credibility and add in some of the celeb names from the instructor page: Justin Timberlake, Usher, Janet Jackson, Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber.

    i.e. Our world class instructors have performed alongside celebrity entertainers Justin Timberlake, Usher, Janet Jackson, Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber, etc...

    You could also edit in some testimonials to the video. The map at the end of the video may be important, but you could also have the video end in a video form with a special offer to get them to sign up right now. Something like "Fill out the form now to and get a FREE one hour Hip-Hop lesson" etc...

    Which leads to my next comment. If you're trying to get them there via a form work on developing some strong offers. i.e. Free one hour class, signup for six, get three free, buy one get one free. Actually, the offer on the pricing page isn't bad but you might want to include some other offers.

    Additionally, I would place one offer next to every instance of the form to remind them of the value prop.

    Otherwise this site looks good and I believe fits well with the demographic. The copy is tight overall. Without knowing more about how prospects evaluate a dance school I would guess most of the information needed to make an informed decision is here. If I were going to work on something it would be offer development.
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  • Profile picture of the author CutPasteProfits
    Thanks for your input Doug. I've mentioned that collecting emails or providing some type of offer is a very good way to get more clients. The problem with "free classes" is that it attracts people who will just come for a class and not come back! I've actually seen dozens of people come to a single class, and never return.

    For most people, he charges quite a bit per class -- but I believe with the right sales copy, we can make people see more value in what/how he teaches. It's a bit like giving a man a fish vs teaching him how to fish
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      Your first job is to come up with the appeal
      which elicits "I want it" to his best students.

      Second job is to say it in a way they get it
      instantly.

      At this point we are guessing what the biggest
      appeal would be for his students.

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    • Profile picture of the author DougHughes
      Originally Posted by CutPasteProfits View Post

      Thanks for your input Doug. I've mentioned that collecting emails or providing some type of offer is a very good way to get more clients. The problem with "free classes" is that it attracts people who will just come for a class and not come back! I've actually seen dozens of people come to a single class, and never return.

      For most people, he charges quite a bit per class -- but I believe with the right sales copy, we can make people see more value in what/how he teaches. It's a bit like giving a man a fish vs teaching him how to fish
      You're welcome. But let me expand on this a bit more.

      Collecting emails from prospects on this type of business - who cares. Collect the emails once you have them as paying customers so you can reactivate them later. Get them in the door first.

      "The problem with "free classes" is that it attracts people who will just come for a class and not come back!"

      I don't see that as a problem at all. The classes are going on anyway, what's a few more bodies in the room? Of course you want them to pay and there are several ways of doing that but you are much more likely to sell someone in person.

      Even if they take a free class and don't end up paying think about it, they probably go to school or wherever and show their buddies a move, or talk about the cool dance place they just went to. They are giving you the best kind of referral...word of mouth.

      You could even do register now for a free week and it would be something like buy three weeks and get the fourth free. There are numerous ways it could be done, but I would bet dollars-to-donuts stronger offers will generate more response.

      In order for these types of businesses to make any money they have to oversell. Gym memberships and web hosting are the same way. They sell more memberships than they have capacity. Reason being is drop-off and disuse are very high.

      Get them over there and sell them in person. If you want to generate more revenue give a class that teaches the trainers how to sell and upsell where your efforts would generate the most ROI.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim R
    Who is it that you're really trying to target here?

    On your home page it says the school is 'all-inclusive' but to me it looks the opposite.

    The instructors are six guys who all look between 14 and 25. The photos don't make them look welcoming and accessible to beginners.

    Your quote below kind of sums up the vibe I got from the site:

    Originally Posted by CutPasteProfits View Post

    I'll probably regret trying to get a bunch of new people in there because we have to spend time explaining the basics again lmao
    Is it going to appeal to girls? Perhaps not.

    Seems like it's only targeted to teen boys who are seriously into the hip hop culture and want to be part of a street crew,

    How big is that particular market on the Gold Coast? I guess there's a bunch of kids in Nerang who think they're straight outta Compton... but do they have the money if you're charging high rates?

    Most of the people I know who'd be interested in hip hop classes are the people who want to go to Sin City or Platinum on a Saturday night and not feel like a goose on the dance floor.

    It's the guys who want to learn some basic moves so they can impress girls when they're in the clubs.

    It's the girls who want to get fit and have fun dancing but want an alternative to Zumba.

    I know quite a few people who have looked for hip hop classes. But they want something with a low barrier of entry where they'll feel comfortable.

    I don't think your site caters to this market at all, as it looks more cliquish.

    Which is fine if you want to position yourself as exclusive and for the hardcore hip hop crowd... but I think this market is fairly limited.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Don't know how to get it across? You said it yourself -
    What makes "Dance Skool" different is that you get taught "concepts" (such as hand placements, footwork, grooves, etc) and then you put them together to create your own, original style. You learn how to teach yourself how to dance. You know how to make stuff up on the spot and still look cool
    That page is crying out for a killer video - above the fold - not buried below where it is now. Make it do most of the work. The current one is cheesy.

    The whole site looks too slick/too commercial to me. I can't see that attracting the hip-hop crowd. It needs to be grungy and "street". This doesn't say "cool" to me. It says "we want your money". It's also crying out for some interaction from kids that have taken the classes - testimonials and videos. (I see you have some testimonials on a slider - way down the bottom as an afterthought)

    And that "enquiry" form stuck at the bottom is lame. Get them on your list by giving them something. INSPIRE them. This copy won't cut it -
    Enrol at Dance Skool

    Don’t let your journey with dance wait any longer – Free Your Style today! Enrol here so we can stay in touch with email news updates.
    I read "So we can spam your arse". They're tuned to WIIFM - what's in it for me?


    Speaking of Australian hip-hop. Here's Iggy Azalea. From Mullumbimby to the bigtime. Go girl.

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  • Profile picture of the author CutPasteProfits
    Hey Copy Nazi,

    Thanks for the advice. I'll have a chat about creating some type of giveaway in exchange for an email, or some kind of special offer. I was thinking that Maybe 1 class for free after paying for one would be a good start because that gets the ball rolling.

    The videos on the site are a bit old -- do you think this would be a better video to put up? He demonstrates a few different styles here:


    TimR -- I agree, most of the guys who want to learn how to dance want to show off a bit at the clubs. A lot of the people that come through are more clicky hip hop heads that go to Paris or have come from the scene in Brisbane which is a more urban club.... The picture does make the instructors look a bit mean, but the owner is actually one of the nicest guys I know! The problem is that he knows his value and will probably refuse to cater to the "basic "fist pumper"morons lol
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    And the obvious question...why are they not following up those that take a free lesson and never come back?

    BTW I don't find this guy that good. His timing is off.

    Enter "hip hop" in YouTube and you'll see some hot dancing.
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  • Profile picture of the author CutPasteProfits
    He hasnt offered free classes for the price of one yet, I think we'll talk about that next week though. It would be a good way to show the value of what people get because an hour just isnt enough.

    Maybe you're referring to the krump style he demos at the end because I thought it was pretty awesome lol... you really have to see it in person to appreciate it. I don't think I've seen a more complex freestyle dancer online or off though, what do you think of this? haha


    Also Copy Nazi/Mal, do you think it would be a good idea to have more sales copy explaining the benefits of this school over others, or would that just be considered a bit too "snarky for a dance school?"

    P.S. TimR I had a good chuckle at the nerangatang idiots that live down there, he's moving the studio eventually specifically because he doesnt want to associate with that area. I get your point though -- the hip hop scene on the Gold Coast is fairly limited.
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  • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
    Just to be clear. Who specifically is your customer.

    The kids who want to learn? Or the parents of the kids who want to learn?

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  • Profile picture of the author CutPasteProfits
    There is a separate class for kids - the foundation freestyle class is really the "meat" of Dance Skool. Kids to adults do attend the main class, but I think the 18+20's gravitate towards it because of the club scene in our area.
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