Do You Sell Your Own Non-Info Product? (Or, The Freelance Copywriter's Dilemma)

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I was running the numbers for one of my clients this week, and I realized something: I'm good at what I do. When I began working with him, he was doing $2000-$4000/month in gross sales.

Now, just a year later, he's doing $40k/month.

What I did wasn't even that special, just solid email & content marketing (driven by decent copy). But it's the same result I've achieved for nearly all of my clients.

(Well, all of my e-commerce clients - let's not talk about the rock opera incident.)

So here's my dilemma, and it's something you experienced copywriters have probably run into: why aren't I selling my own products?

In my opinion, it's easier to sell someone else's wares: they've already validated the market, and I don't have to worry about supply, fulfillment, etc. But if my work can produce a loyal customer base so quickly, I think the rewards are worth the extra effort it will take to do it for myself. And frankly, I see this as the only way to live a comfortable life where I live without spending 20 years ascending the career ladder.

(I mean, have you SEEN Bay Area housing prices?)

How many of you sell your own physical products (not info products)? Any specific pitfalls you'd avoid? It's already getting too late for Black Friday...

(Note: Yes, I did spend some time looking through the forum to see what's been said before. Found some good stuff, but still felt like it was worth asking again.)
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  • Profile picture of the author marciayudkin
    How many of you sell your own physical products (not info products)? Any specific pitfalls you'd avoid?
    I don't understand why you would stay away from info products. They have by far the highest profit margin of anything you can sell, and the pricing can go to the sky if you understand positioning.

    Your info products don't have to be about copywriting. Nick Usborne, for example, has a nice little side business around coffee-related information, because he is passionate about coffee.

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    • Profile picture of the author MatthewRHallEsq
      Originally Posted by marciayudkin View Post

      I don't understand why you would stay away from info products.
      Well, I didn't explain why I want to stay away from info products, so I wouldn't imagine it would make a lot of sense.

      But I'll look into Nick's stuff - might spark an idea. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
    Originally Posted by MatthewRHallEsq View Post

    I was running the numbers for one of my clients this week, and I realized something: I'm good at what I do. When I began working with him, he was doing $2000-$4000/month in gross sales.

    Now, just a year later, he's doing $40k/month.

    What I did wasn't even that special, just solid email & content marketing (driven by decent copy). But it's the same result I've achieved for nearly all of my clients.

    (Well, all of my e-commerce clients – let's not talk about the rock opera incident.)

    So here's my dilemma, and it's something you experienced copywriters have probably run into: why aren't I selling my own products?

    In my opinion, it's easier to sell someone else's wares: they've already validated the market, and I don't have to worry about supply, fulfillment, etc. But if my work can produce a loyal customer base so quickly, I think the rewards are worth the extra effort it will take to do it for myself. And frankly, I see this as the only way to live a comfortable life where I live without spending 20 years ascending the career ladder.

    (I mean, have you SEEN Bay Area housing prices?)

    How many of you sell your own physical products (not info products)? Any specific pitfalls you'd avoid? It's already getting too late for Black Friday...

    (Note: Yes, I did spend some time looking through the forum to see what's been said before. Found some good stuff, but still felt like it was worth asking again.)
    I believe Infoproducts are a good move.

    I have a half dozen niche sites, all selling simple subscription type offers (newsletters) or ebooks. They're not huge money makers, but enough to cover living expenses and then some. Someone else manages them so the fulfillment side of things is really a non-issue.

    Gives you a lot more "walk-away power" when negotiating copywriting and consulting deals.
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  • Profile picture of the author pewpewpewmonkeys
    How many of you sell your own physical products (not info products)?
    I make and sell gorgeous wood sculptures in the range of $3-10k

    Any specific pitfalls you'd avoid?
    Selling anything other than an info product. Unless you love extra work. Inventory, shipping, returns.

    It's already getting too late for Black Friday...
    Says you. I'll be caked in sawdust from head to toe till mid December, and still people will be trying to order at the last minute.
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    Originally Posted by MatthewRHallEsq View Post


    In my opinion, it's easier to sell someone else's wares: they've already validated the market, and I don't have to worry about supply, fulfillment, etc. But if my work can produce a loyal customer base so quickly, I think the rewards are worth the extra effort it will take to do it for myself. And frankly, I see this as the only way to live a comfortable life where I live without spending 20 years ascending the career ladder.

    How many of you sell your own physical products (not info products)? Any specific pitfalls you'd avoid? It's already getting too late for Black Friday...

    (Note: Yes, I did spend some time looking through the forum to see what's been said before. Found some good stuff, but still felt like it was worth asking again.)
    Well, when I was into golf, I sold products, but, some of those were MY info products in the form of cassettes (remember those) CD and DVD. As well as newsletters.

    I ran ONE ad on Thanksgiving Day and it pulled in over 12k in new business in the next few days, before I was even open for business.

    Black Friday always comes, start preparing now for next year, and like the woodworker, my sister, a One Stroke artist in S. FL, could be working 24/7, her stuff is in such demand.

    Even today, Nov. 5, you could still find a product to sell for Black Friday. How about a dollar hot chocolate for the Walmart early birds, just stand aside when the doors open, ha!

    GIFTS are big this time of year, I had a golf game, you hit plastic balls with velcro on them to a target, like golf darts. Sold a ton of those. Also, customized children's books, were a staple of my Holiday season. Sold thousands of Chinese Yo-Yo's one year at a buck a piece (cost less than 10 cents).

    But, as a copywriter who has proven to his clients you can produce results, I, like Marcia, am sort of miffed about not wanting to do information, this sub forum alone has scores of people who want to get started in copywriting, so there is a coaching opportunity for you too.

    Many of the marketers/copy writers I've known over the year also had absentee owned business, or, were members of small investment groups (general partners) who simply let their money make them money. When I rec'd my GRI as a Realtor, REIT's were pretty hot ways to go.

    But, if you, or anyone, is looking for a hot holiday product for fast cash, listen, once again to Sir Gary Halbert..."starving crowd"

    Grab a few dozen of the Dunkin NOT Cronuts, some coffee, and park outside the Apple store on Black Friday (metaphorically speaking).

    gjabiz
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  • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
    Matt,

    A lot of it has to come down to what you're good at, what you want to do most, and how you want your day to be set up. In other words... create the kind of lifestyle you want and then work backwards to find the kind of work/business that can help you achieve that most.

    In all honesty, not every good copywriter even WANTS to create products. Too much of a headache... they can make just as much, if not more, from just writing copy if the deal is structured right.

    I've talked to copywriters who don't want the hassle of creating products, finding traffic, doing the numbers, etc... they're just direct response marketing guys and that's what they want to create.

    Sure, you could always outsource most of creating info products... but you still have to find the right people, build the team, manage, etc...

    Again, many copywriters don't want to wear all those different hats... they just want to focus on creating copy.

    I've been on both sides of the coin... creating my own info products and doing quite well.. .and also working as a copywriter helping other clients increase sales.

    Both come with their own set of unique challenges/pitfalls/rewards.

    Sure, as an info-product owner, you don't have to deal with clients all the time, but you still have to deal with customers and make sure all aspects of your biz are firing on all cylinders.

    So, this is a question best answered by yourself... after asking yourself the kind of questions about how you want your day to be set up, your lifestyle, the kind of biz you want, etc...

    If you don't mind wearing all the different hats a biz owner needs to wear... then creating info products is certainly lucrative because of leverage.

    But then again, so is creating copy for clients who have the systems in place to really get your copy out there... and then pay you accordingly for results.

    Both sides of the coin work... and many copywriters do both. It simply comes down to your own personal preference and whether you want to focus on all aspects of a biz... or deal with writing copy and let others handle the numbers.
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  • More than anything it's an individual and sometimes a financial preference.

    But I think there is a absolute, unshakeable, rule 1 proviso.

    Which is ...

    Do the thing you are most passionate about.

    If you are blessed with a talent in "crafting" something and wake everyday saying "Woohooo, I can't wait to get into the workshop and finish off the (whatever it is)."

    Then life would be hell if you didn't.

    If writing copy for others or for yourself brings you great joy and happiness.

    You need to be hammering away on the keyboard.


    Steve
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