Tips to increase conversion on OTO page?

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Hey! Do you guys have any tips to increase the conversion of an OTO page that you show the visitor right after they opt in to your email list?

Have you noticed that a more direct pitch works better? Where you just present to them the sales page?

Or more of a soft approach where you show them a page telling them thank you for subscribing and a small introduction of what to expect from you, and then you frame the OTO below that as a "oh btw if you're interested I have XYZ..." type of pitch.

Which have you seen works better?

Any other advice?

Thanks!

P.S: I am going to set up a split test for these things, but I want some more things to test to to see which direction is better.
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  • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
    There are several dozen OTO tips I can share with you, but the biggest one, and most important, is to position the product as being complementary to the frontend offer.

    I'm consulting with someone right now who has a high-converting frontend offer. But his OTO is doing very poorly. The reason is because the OTO product was not positioned as complementary to the frontend product. Even though it was valuable, it wasn't relevant to why they bought the frontend product.

    The other mistake that's made often is the OTO product seems like it overlaps with the frontend product, rather than being complementary to it. As a result, the customer feels he doesn't need the product.

    The biggest thing is to unequivocally state the reason(s) the OTO is essential and why you're including it as a one-time special offer.

    The ideal scenario is this:

    1. The OTO is "the missing piece to the puzzle" that makes the whole thing work. Without it, the frontend offer feels incomplete.

    2. Make it so the frontend product and the OTO product COMPLEMENT each other. There is little to no overlap of features, functionality.

    3. In the best OTO cases, the frontend product implicitly creates an unmet need (a vacuum) for the OTO product to fill.

    Keep in mind, much of this positioning is perceived and not real, until you create it with copy.

    Good luck.

    - Rick Duris
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      Rick is right, but there's a thin line between complimenting the offer and making them feel taken advantage of.

      I mean, I have seen OTO's that tried to hard, they made it sound like the front end was not complete by itself, you needed to buy the OTO.

      Yes, you want them to think they need to buy the OTO, but not because you have not sold them a complete, fully functional product.

      It's like selling fries with the Big Mac, not selling a Big Mac with no paty, no cheese and goo.

      Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

      There are several dozen OTO tips I can share with you, but the biggest one, and most important, is to position the product as being complementary to the frontend offer.

      I'm consulting with someone right now who has a high-converting frontend offer. But his OTO is doing very poorly. The reason is because the OTO product was not positioned as complementary to the frontend product. Even though it was valuable, it wasn't relevant to why they bought the frontend product.

      The other mistake that's made often is the OTO product seems like it overlaps with the frontend product, rather than being complementary to it. As a result, the customer feels he doesn't need the product.

      The biggest thing is to unequivocally state the reason(s) the OTO is essential and why you're including it as a one-time special offer.

      The ideal scenario is this:

      1. The OTO is "the missing piece to the puzzle" that makes the whole thing work. Without it, the frontend offer feels incomplete.

      2. Make it so the frontend product and the OTO product COMPLEMENT each other. There is little to no overlap of features, functionality.

      3. In the best OTO cases, the frontend product implicitly creates an unmet need (a vacuum) for the OTO product to fill.

      Keep in mind, much of this positioning is perceived and not real, until you create it with copy.

      Good luck.

      - Rick Duris
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    • Profile picture of the author Joshua Loke
      Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

      There are several dozen OTO tips I can share with you, but the biggest one, and most important, is to position the product as being complementary to the frontend offer.

      I'm consulting with someone right now who has a high-converting frontend offer. But his OTO is doing very poorly. The reason is because the OTO product was not positioned as complementary to the frontend product. Even though it was valuable, it wasn't relevant to why they bought the frontend product.

      The other mistake that's made often is the OTO product seems like it overlaps with the frontend product, rather than being complementary to it. As a result, the customer feels he doesn't need the product.

      The biggest thing is to unequivocally state the reason(s) the OTO is essential and why you're including it as a one-time special offer.

      The ideal scenario is this:

      1. The OTO is "the missing piece to the puzzle" that makes the whole thing work. Without it, the frontend offer feels incomplete.

      2. Make it so the frontend product and the OTO product COMPLEMENT each other. There is little to no overlap of features, functionality.

      3. In the best OTO cases, the frontend product implicitly creates an unmet need (a vacuum) for the OTO product to fill.

      Keep in mind, much of this positioning is perceived and not real, until you create it with copy.

      Good luck.

      - Rick Duris
      Great stuff- thanks for that!
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  • Profile picture of the author wrcato2
    I agree with Rick. Can't argue with common sense.

    Another thing you can do is make the OTO limited in nature. Of course it's a one time offer, the price will never be this low if you leave the page.
    Instead I am limiting this OTO to only 50 copies. If you are seeing this page this IS Your only chance to get it.
    Buy it now or cry tomorrow type of thing.
    You could even get a script made that will have a timer at the top counting down the minutes before the page expires.

    If you use these tactics you need to make sure that the page will not let them buy the product after the timer elapses.
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  • Profile picture of the author TakenAction
    I once read something Dan Kennedy wrote and it was something along the lines of,

    You should be able to achieve a 20% conversion rate on your up-sells no matter the copywriting , if you are not you are doing something terrible wrong.

    Anyways, exactly what Rick said it should be the final puzzle to make the core product work better and faster. They keyword really is, efficiency.

    The up-sells should make the core product get the desired results faster and easier.
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      • Profile picture of the author daveshu
        Originally Posted by JaredRhodenizer View Post

        This one converts high:

        FREE CREDIT CARD KNIFE
        Only in America will that sell well - nowhere else in the world would you suddenly need to fumble in your pocket looking for a knife, then remember your handy credit card knife that might just save your life.

        In fact you don't need to do that in America either, it's just another crazy idea lurking in their weird heads.

        Americans are waiting for some major disaster to unfold, although it's hard to imagine when or where it could be where they weren't near their home, SUV, or a store selling guns and much bigger knives - hell even the food malls sell automatic rifles.

        "Credit card knife - could save your life when the sh*t goes down" - not likely is it?

        It's playing on the strange mentality (or lack of it) of the average American.

        Too much TV and Hollywood movies I'm afraid.
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        • Profile picture of the author DABK
          But, if it doubled (tripled?) as a scooter? A rocket scooter that will get you away from villainous villains (over large bodies of water turned purple by a gorgeous beautiful sun) towards a bodacious, half-naked, champagne-sipping lover? Wouldn't that catch on the world over?

          Originally Posted by daveshu View Post

          Only in America will that sell well - nowhere else in the world would you suddenly need to fumble in your pocket looking for a knife, then remember your handy credit card knife that might just save your life.

          In fact you don't need to do that in America either, it's just another crazy idea lurking in their weird heads.

          Americans are waiting for some major disaster to unfold, although it's hard to imagine when or where it could be where they weren't near their home, SUV, or a store selling guns and much bigger knives - hell even the food malls sell automatic rifles.

          "Credit card knife - could save your life when the sh*t goes down" - not likely is it?

          It's playing on the strange mentality (or lack of it) of the average American.

          Too much TV and Hollywood movies I'm afraid.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Meaney
        Originally Posted by JaredRhodenizer View Post

        This one converts high:

        FREE CREDIT CARD KNIFE
        Why do I not have this in my life??
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  • Profile picture of the author ghost209
    well first thing, have a freaking awesome upsell. The more amazing of an offer it is, the higher your conversion rate..

    so if your upsell is not converting like you'd want it to you can always try stacking the value. Try something a little different, add some more coolness into it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hillary Nolette
    Thanks for your information, it was really very helpfull.
    https://vimeo.com/155317351
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  • Profile picture of the author daveshu
    Offer them $1000 cash when they sign up for the $500 offer.

    I.e. - value - that's what will sell it.
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