The Ultimate Video Sales Letter Guide

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Probably not the humblest title I could have chosen but I didn't find anything good online on writing VSLs that I could recommend to anyone. So after shelling good bucks for paid courses and writing a couple of VSLs for clients I decided to redress the problem

The guide is here.

Anyways the big secret IMO is to:
  1. Follow a proven template
  2. Analyze what your competitors are doing
  3. Tweak your copy/presentation until you're killing it

Thoughts and/or suggestions for making this kick ass even more are always welcome.
#guide #letter #sales #sellerator #ultimate #video #video sales letter #vsl
  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    There is nothing SPECIAL about VSLs as different to good copywriting.
    That's just the cold hard fact. Your best bet would be to study
    infomercials--they are really fancy VSLs-- and you'll notice they
    follow the same formulas.

    There are just a few aspects unique to VSL because you are
    talking rather than writing a letter--but even reading your
    sales letter can work just as good.

    The same applies to Webinar presentations. They are a
    long sales letter presented in another way.

    So you're on the right track.

    -Ray Edwards
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  • Profile picture of the author Silvestru
    Of course the principles of good copywriting still apply! But to say that you can just take a regular text sales page and put into slides and expect people to listen to some guy read a letter for 40 minutes is misguided.

    It's all in the presentation and how you structure it. If you go on Clickbank or look at some of Agora's offers, you'll see that the best ones have a news-story / documentary structure to them (especially financial and survivalism products). People will watch news-style content (if it's relevant to their problem). Point is, it has to be something valuable that they can take away and implement. Only then can you start introducing your offer. If it's clear from the start that you're pitching something, you'll only turn them away.
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by Silvestru View Post

      Of course the principles of good copywriting still apply! But to say that you can just take a regular text sales page and put into slides and expect people to listen to some guy read a letter for 40 minutes is misguided.
      I've seen black text on a white screen VSLs that sell millions of dollars
      of products. You'll find a ton from Agora, for example. Only people who
      sell how "special" VSLs are, try to convince you that there is something
      unique and different about them.

      The "famous Jon Benson" formula I have been teaching to my coaching
      members for 9 years now. Same formula, just applied to a different
      style of presentation.

      -Ray Edwards
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    • Profile picture of the author Raydal
      Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

      Conclusion? WSLs may work far better than VSLs and vice versa. It really does depend on where the traffic is emanating from.
      For sure your traffic source will determine a lot about the form of your
      copy and more. One of the questions on my copywriting questionnaire
      asks for the source of traffic, so that is indeed basic. No use having a
      drive-thru window at a barber shop.

      -Ray Edwards
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  • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
    When you think what Jon was doing... he was "selling" the idea of using video sales letters
    instead of text.

    Well, what's one of the first things you need to do when you sell anything?

    Find a uniqueness. Find a unique hook and angle.

    So, that's what Jon did. He was "selling" sales letters... but his unique
    hook was his approach of creating sales letters using his 3xVSL angle.

    So, he did what everyone needs to do when selling... find a new and unique
    way to present it.

    And he did... he's known for bringing a lot of video sales letters to light.

    Whether he was the first to use video, who knows. But he was the first to
    really make it big with a certain formula for VSLs... his 3xVSL method.

    Also known as the "Jon Benson" method.

    So, my take away from this is, like any good sales person, you gotta
    stand out, be different, and have a uniqueness.

    Jon did that with video sales letters... in the way he presented his
    formula.

    Because I can tell you as sure as anything, people have tried using
    video to sell stuff for a while. Back in 2005, I posted a 3 minute
    video at the top of my sales, thinking it would help sell my fitness program.

    It didn't... so I didn't stick with using them for a while.

    But yeah, like Ray said... it still all comes down to the pitch.

    I'll take a well written text sales letter over a poor video sales pitch any day.

    But, like Agora does, and like someone mentioned above, why not
    try and capture both... use VSLs, and Agora's black text on white powerpoint
    still is being used, and does well.

    Yet, give them the option of reading the text version too, upon exit.

    This way, you double your chances of getting the prospect to stay and
    absorb the pitch.

    But again, my takeaway from the entire VSL formula by Benson is,
    he did what any good sales person does.. he built a better mousetrap
    and then marketed the heck out of it.

    His unique angle and hook set him apart from all the others.. and
    soon everyone was using them. That's the purpose of being
    unique and different... is to stand out ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Silvestru
    Very nice analysis Shawn! (and yep, I now see what Ray was saying)

    So what about traffic? What is the best traffic that converts on VSLs? Email lists? Is there a way to make Facebook Ads work with them?

    I learned from a prospect that he was running direct cold traffic to a dating VSL and he was doing pretty good.

    And then I hear someone say that Facebook Ads direct to VSL is suicide?

    Can anyone shed some light here?

    Yeah I know that it's going to depend on the market and so on, but from your experience, what was the best converting traffic source?
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
      Originally Posted by Silvestru View Post

      Very nice analysis Shawn! (and yep, I now see what Ray was saying)

      So what about traffic? What is the best traffic that converts on VSLs? Email lists? Is there a way to make Facebook Ads work with them?

      I learned from a prospect that he was running direct cold traffic to a dating VSL and he was doing pretty good.

      And then I hear someone say that Facebook Ads direct to VSL is suicide?

      Can anyone shed some light here?

      Yeah I know that it's going to depend on the market and so on, but from your experience, what was the best converting traffic source?
      A good rule of thumb is 30% of promotions self-liquidate via direct linking (ad ---> sales piece); 70% need to include a pre-sell (ad ---> pre-sell ---> sales piece). Either way, only in fairly rare cases does a product creator make profit without back-end products.

      Alex
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      • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
        Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

        A good rule of thumb is 30% of promotions self-liquidate via direct linking (ad ---> sales piece); 70% need to include a pre-sell (ad ---> pre-sell ---> sales piece). Either way, only in fairly rare cases does a product creator make profit without back-end products.

        Alex
        Especially these days with the cost of paid traffic.

        I remember back in 2004 or so... you could spend a nickel on adwords and make $30 profit.

        These days, most marketers I know are spending $20 to make $10... just to work the back end, where the real profits are.

        Like you said Alex, it's almost impossible to make money on front end these days. I know about a dozen Clickbank marketers, personally, who are losing money on front end, but making so much on back end, it's more than worth it.

        This is also why I think you're seeing a transition of a lot of marketers... moving from product sales, to coaching.
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        • Profile picture of the author lorryyap
          Originally Posted by shawnlebrun View Post

          This is also why I think you're seeing a transition of a lot of marketers... moving from product sales, to coaching.
          Thanks Shawn. That cleared up something I've been thinking about for a long time!

          @Alex - What are your thoughts on pre-sell pages for traffic from fb ads? The "product" i am selling is a seminar for the biz opportunity niche. So I am directing them to sign up for a free seminar.

          Also in general I'm looking for resources on video sales letters. In particular I want to know which types of formats/scripts are used when. Different goals and contexts should have different considerations. eg. authority building / squeeze page / general content.

          @Jennie I've seen Jon Benson's close formula in a freebie. Is the 3xsellerator focused on helping you recreate that close formula or does it contain knowledge on all types on VSLs?
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          • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
            Originally Posted by lorryyap View Post


            @Alex - What are your thoughts on pre-sell pages for traffic from fb ads? The "product" i am selling is a seminar for the biz opportunity niche. So I am directing them to sign up for a free seminar.
            Facebook ads to a webinar signup page are working very well these days.

            Use the webinar to pre-sell, create credibility, and establish the buying criteria.

            For small-ticket products, you can sell right on the webinar. For high-ticket products, it's best to have the prospect schedule an phone call with you.

            Alex
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            • Profile picture of the author Oziboomer
              Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

              Facebook ads to a webinar signup page are working very well these days.

              Use the webinar to pre-sell, create credibility, and establish the buying criteria.

              For small-ticket products, you can sell right on the webinar. For high-ticket products, it's best to have the prospect schedule an phone call with you.

              Alex
              This is what we are finding also.

              It is a model that has been working for us for about two years now.

              One of my clients are what would probably be considered "high-ticket" with the average sale currently being $31K

              We add a few layers to the followup after the phone call with a consultation with three medical professionals and if required a financial consultant.

              The average lead time from first contact to conversion is around eight months as often prospects are normally getting various health insurance requirements in place.

              Although the business services both sexes the majority of webinar attendees and physical seminar attendees are female. They may not always be the person who is going to become the patient/client but they are most definitely the influencers in the equation.

              In some circumstances we have prospects attend multiple live webinars and often a live seminar where they eventually commit.

              When working with this client over an extended time it becomes more obvious to me that prospects are always at different points on their conversion path and that is why designing and modifying your sales funnel requires constant attention.

              A VSL tends to work best when it is nearer the narrow part of the funnel.

              Best regards,

              Ozi
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            • Profile picture of the author lorryyap
              Thanks Alex and Ozi, where I'm from (Singapore), webinars aren't so hot. And the goto method is still a direct invitation to sign up for live seminars.

              Part of the reason is proximity. Singapore is pretty small so anywhere is about a 30-50 min commute. The other is probably Asian culture - people still want to look at you. We're savvy for sure, with high adoption of the internet, just that when it comes to larger investments, webinars haven't been a preferred choice for marketers.

              In that context, would you still recommend the same? I'm wondering if simply collecting leads from squeeze pages to warm them up before selling the event only to subscribers would make any sense from a conversion point of view. Like some people won't want to sign up straight away to commit to the event, but they probably wouldn't mind giving you their email first for a giveaway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jennie Heckel
    Hi Silvestru,

    Interesting comments... and I have a few things to add to answer your questions.

    I have several VSLs which are selling well and have been selling well on Clickbank for the last 2 to 4 years.

    Most of my best sellers are in the health/weight loss, remedies, and survival niches.

    If you want to know which ones PM me.

    On the VSL outline you have 17 points, mine has 35 and goes much more in depth. I have created a hybrid video script template I use as a guide for all my high converting vsls and it does follow many of the ideas Agora uses in their video scripts..

    My video script base is 3X Sellerator and I have added NLP suggestive copy to help drive the sale and get under the buyer's radar to help push the sale.

    The 3X Sellerator Jon Benson sells is great, but you still need a savvy copywriter to create a dynamo hook and then weave that hook into the video script copy.

    The reason why copy is critical. You want to hit all the dominant emotions to keep them watching and get them to slide down the slippery slide to the buy button (from Clayton Makepeace Copywriting training.)

    Plus I use John Carlton's Marketing Rebel suggestive copy phrases here and there to spice up the copy and keep them interested all the way to the end.

    On the FB ads - you may need to go to a pre-sell page or a survey page before the VSL or FB will not generally approve the ad.

    I do have clients who send cold ppc to an optin page for a free report download.
    They also use email (with the pain points from the video script) to help them click the link to hit the sales video.

    Most don't go direct to a Clickbank video or if they do they do the use an Exit splash with an optin for a free report if the visitor backs out of the video page. Affiliates don't like this but that is the way it is now.

    Most Clickbank vendors won't place their video script on the Exit Splash page anymore as it is too easy to rip it off.

    I have worked with many top Clickbank vendors who are masters at marketing their products and many are moving away from Clickbank because of all the hassles.

    They dislike the fact they need to add the Clickbank Badge which makes their video scripts/offers look like a Clickbank offer.

    Many of my clients are spending huge wads of money to create their own traffic funnels and are no longer depending on Clickbank or Affiliates from Clickbank for the majority of their sales.

    The higher level of competition for FB as is part of the reason for the rise in FB ad costs.

    FB ads are expensive you might want to try a plain text ad going to a cheaper PPC provider when testing your video scripts and doing conversion improvement rewrites.

    And then when your video script is converting high enough with PPC traffic to switch to FB traffic.

    Good luck with your business,

    Jennie Heckel
    3X Sellerator Copywriter
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  • Profile picture of the author Copydog
    Hi Silvestru

    A very helpful guide. Thanks!

    My brief 3 cents' input to this discussion...

    1. The photo in your header seems to have no
    connection to the theme of your letter.

    One of the best practices of effective web page
    design is to remove all page elements that fail
    to aid the goal of the page.

    2. I'd change "The Ultimate..." to "Your Ultimate..."
    (You/Your are good words to add to a headline, if
    possible).

    3. Why repeat the headline a second time?

    Also a good idea to avoid reverse type (light
    type on a dark background) if possible, as
    usability studies have shown this is tough to
    read.

    Kindest regards

    Eldo
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  • Profile picture of the author Copydog
    Another thought...

    One of the basics of copywriting that works
    is "specificity sells."

    I'd change your headline to "17 Ways to Get
    Your Video Sales Letter to Shoot Your Client's
    Sales Through the Roof" ... or words to that
    effect.

    (This is also a more emotional, gut-wrenching
    headline than your present one.)

    The word "ultimate" is somewhat vague – it's an
    abstract, and thus not a concrete, word.

    The late legendary copywriter Eugene Schwartz
    used to speak about using "picture words," which
    your reader can visualize.
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