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Hey Guys.

Which of these 6 headlines do you like the best?


Headline 1

Expert Communication Specialist Exposes Powerful Techniques
To Seduce Your Market And Make Them Want to Do Business With
You Over and Over Again ... Guaranteed!

Headline 2

Expert Communication Specialist Exposes Powerful Techniques
To Seduce Your Market And Make Them Seek You Out to Do
Business With You Over and Over Again ... Guaranteed!

Headline 3

I Can Help You Seduce Your Market And Make Them
Want to Do Business With You Over and Over Again ...
Guaranteed!

Headline 4

I Can Help You Seduce Your Market And Make Them
Seek You Out to Do Business With You Over and Over Again ...
Guaranteed!

Headline 5

Expert Communication Expert Helps You Seduce Your Market
And Make Them Seek You Out to Do Business With You
Over and Over Again ... Guaranteed!

Headline 6

Expert Communication Expert Helps You Seduce Your Market
To Seek You Out to Do Business With You Over and Over Again ...
Guaranteed!

Jack
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Bastide
      Good Point .. I can try


      these are a work in progress

      Jack
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      • Profile picture of the author Jack Bastide
        A few More


        Here's How To Seduce Your Market And Make Them Seek You Out
        To Do Business With You Over and Over Again ...
        Guaranteed!

        Now You Can Seduce Your Market And Make Them Seek You Out
        To Do Business With You Over and Over Again ...
        Guaranteed!


        Seduce Your Market And Make Them Seek You Out
        To Do Business With You Over and Over Again -
        I'll Show You How ... Guaranteed!
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        • Profile picture of the author Matthew Iannotti
          Discover how you can hypnotize your market that takes you from zero to hero generating repeat business over and over....

          Just through that together...

          I like your # 2 as well..
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          • Profile picture of the author Jack Bastide
            You know I just realized something

            My first Ever headline was my infamous Free Sex
            headline ...

            http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...-free-sex.html

            Now I'm talking about SEDUCING Your Market

            Maybe I need to take a cold shower before writing headlines?

            Jack
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  • Profile picture of the author haikuangel
    Hi! I think you need to reword your headline a little bit and remove the first person explitives. It seems impersonal and it doesnt allow the consumer to discover "for themselves" Try an empowering approach, its always better to titilate by self discovery.
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  • Profile picture of the author arj_n
    I like starting off with 'Seduce' like in this version:

    "Seduce Your Market And Make Them Seek You Out
    To Do Business With You Over and Over Again -
    I'll Show You How ... Guaranteed!"

    I would reword "I'll Show You How... Guaranteed!", to something more like, "You Can Get Started Today!", give them a stronger call to action. The reader will catch on to the 'Seduce your market' bit, and then you convince them that they can do it now, no muss no fuss.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
    Hey Jack

    Who is your market?

    I'm not sure if "seduce your market" is what most people want... or even understand.

    All the headlines basically say the same thing, why not brainstorm some different approaches, I'm sure you'll find a much stronger angle.

    Cheers
    Kyle
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    • Profile picture of the author Jack Bastide
      Originally Posted by Kyle Tully View Post

      Hey Jack

      Who is your market?

      I'm not sure if "seduce your market" is what most people want... or even understand.

      All the headlines basically say the same thing, why not brainstorm some different approaches, I'm sure you'll find a much stronger angle.

      Cheers
      Kyle

      The Market is Small Business Owners

      Here's the Thing ...

      My Client wants a Softer and Gentler Sell because that's how she speaks

      Nothing With "Cash Sucking" Or "Massacre The Competition"

      She won't even let me offer "Free Sex" as a bonus

      Jack
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      • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
        Originally Posted by Jack Bastide View Post

        The Market is Small Business Owners

        Here's the Thing ...

        My Client wants a Softer and Gentler Sell because that's how she speaks

        Nothing With "Cash Sucking" Or "Massacre The Competition"

        She won't even let me offer "Free Sex" as a bonus

        Jack
        Like I said, you should brainstorm some different approaches... there are a LOT more angles than "Cash Sucking" or "Massacre The Competition"... and, at least to me, "seduce your market" doesn't sound much less "hypey" or "hard sell" anyway.

        How many small business owners have woken up in the middle of the night, slapped their forehead and exclaimed... "damn, if only i could seduce my market!"?

        What have you gotten from your research of the market? What are they telling you? I'd be SHOCKED if any of them mentioned the word "seduce".
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        • Profile picture of the author Mr. Subtle
          When I read the word SEDUCE (six times!) it made me twitch. So I did a quick Websters/Dictionary(dot)com search for the meaning... just to make sure I really did understand the meaning of the word.

          Well, here's what the experts say it means:

          to persuade to disobedience or disloyalty
          to lead astray usually by persuasion or false promises
          to lead astray, as from duty, rectitude, or the like; corrupt.
          to lead or draw away, as from principles, faith, or allegiance

          WOW!... disobedience... disloyalty... lead astray... false promises... corrupt... YIKES!

          Dump that bad boy verb and find something much better JACK and don't you come back no more, no more, no more, ... until you find one.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jack Bastide
            One of the things I market is Send Out Cards which
            is a tool for building strong relationships with your
            customers

            Awhile ago I tested the following words in My Twitter Profile
            to market Send Out Cards

            "How to Make Your Customers Fall In Love With You
            And Recommend You To All Their Friends"

            I got a TON of business Owners asking me about my
            profile

            So 'Seduce Your Market' Came From That

            A synonym of Seduce is Attract

            Other possible words are

            Charm
            Captivate
            Allure
            Enchant

            I'll see what I can do with these words Since you
            guy hate the word Seduce so much

            Jack

            P.S. I was just over at copywritingboard.com and somebody had the follwing
            in their sig file: "The Hypnotic Copywriter - How To Use Simple Words To Persuade
            & Seduce Your Prospects"

            So I'm not the Only one that uses that word .. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author colmodwyer
    Yeah, I'm with the "seduce" is a turn off gang... It kind of sounds like you want to bed you customer. Which is absolutely the case if you're writing a brothel promo.

    But I can't imagine you are.

    Other than that the headline (or variation of) is very flat. The prospect has seen it a billion times before.

    Colm
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by colmodwyer View Post

      Yeah, I'm with the "seduce" is a turn off gang... It kind of sounds like you want to bed you customer.
      Actually, being "in bed with" someone is a common American euphemism for a business partnership.

      Ex. - "Now that Yahoo's in bed with Microsoft, maybe Google will have some real competition."

      So maybe it's not such a bad way to put things.
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      • Profile picture of the author DavidO
        I don't have a problem with "seduce". To me it implies persuasion rather than anything sinister. But I don't like "seek you out". It doesn't work in any of the examples.

        Even though I like the word "seduce" I agree that you need to try some completely different angles.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bigsofty
    I'll throw in my 2 cents - the "seek you out" ones just don't roll off the tongue nicely. Get kinnda stuck behind the teeth somewhere..
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  • Profile picture of the author tbarnby
    None of these really grab my attention. They all feel like they focus on "you" instead of my needs. Number 3 isn't too bad, but it still needs work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jack Bastide
    Hey Everybody,

    although I still like "Seduce Your Market" I'm going
    in a different direction for now

    I may still split test that headline because the
    bottom line is this ...

    it's not what WE think works

    The customer votes with their wallet

    I have done some unconvential things in the past
    that have pulled like gangbusters

    so ya never know until you test

    thanks for all the feedback!

    Jack
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    • Profile picture of the author digitalboyz
      I will choose headline 4

      I think it give me some material I need -I want to stand out of the crowd and get people come for me and buy over and over


      other headlines sound boring...
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