Frank Kern can eat my shorts

Still cuirous about the title...

I guess it was stated that way for no other reason than to get views? :confused:

No, I'm not. Here is how you structure your posts if you want to
promote yourself 'subliminally': You make the Frank Kern bit a
by-the-way.

"You know I always wanted to know how to pick up those big gigs ...
blah, blah, blah ... by the way I got one from 'big name marketer' .."

So you writing for this famous marketers is not the focus of the
post. I see other copywriters do this masterfully all the time.
You were just too blatant.

One way or another we are here to help ourselves. You just can't
be caught doing it in your post without paying $20.

-Ray Edwards

Not sure why you find reality so rude.

I don't think it's your whaked-out wit that goes over us "simple" Americans. Maybe some guys just noticed that you've changed your
tune about Frank Kern (who I've always admired) from Frank is a conman to Frank is the greatest person in the world.

It just took Frank sending you $2,500 to change your tune. Frank has always been a class-act. The FTC is wrong in many cases.

Now that you've changed your tune, will you go back and remove your old posts and articles bashing him.

here's a few:
Frank Kern Mass Control or Mass Con? - Nikki Catsouras ? Google Cash Detective review ? Frank Kern ? Unique baby names ? plentyoffish review ? poker chips

here's a quote from you, where you probably should have
researched the facts a bit, and let them percolate before
posting a rapid attack:

Malcom"Metronicity" Lambe says: "Check this out. Google "Frank Kern" either as a broad match without the inverted commas or an exact match with the inverted commas. You getting the same results I am? I'm in Paris but I'm seeing this blogpost right under Frank's Mass Con site. That must piss him off. Does it Frank? You there? I notice in your very latest video - they're getting much better technically BTW - you mention the FTC bust. I wonder whether that has anything to do with my outing you here huh? I know you're there buddy. Listen, no hard feelings - this is turning into some nice linkbait for me. As I said, I quite like you but you do tend to talk a lot of bull****. What was it your Abraham Lincoln said? - "You can fool some of the people some of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

Hey good idea. I was just going to post "Why would I want to come here and "pimp my WSO" as my learned friend above suggests when there's only ever 30 people on line in this section at any one time - 29 of them being copywriters and the other guy is lost.

Pas de tout. It was a million laughs. Ever thought of writing gags? Good money in that.

And I am indeed a lucky man to have what I have now. No complaints here. I'm looking forward to the luck I will create tomorrow and beyond.

First a disclosure, I'm a very good friend of Malcolm Lambe and have been for quite some time now. I'm not a copywriter, just an internet marketing consultant.

I'm always amazed at these threads, if the original post was violating a rule or a TOS it usually gets taken down, Mal edited and deleted most of his original post. And yet many of you are unabashedly attacking him. Not his work, you're going after Him.

Ray, Subliminal? Really? Now that's something I'd really like to see.

Any of you read Rule #1 lately?

You attack him as a person, he answers quite kindly and often in a humorous way, NEVER ATTACKING YOU BACK, and THAT seems to rile up many other people. NOW that is Irony! You poke a sharp stick at a tiger in a cage and it just laughs at you, that seems to make you even madder. "We can't get a nasty rise out of him, POKE HIM AGAIN, HARDER." Tiger laughs again.

Dr. Harlan, Ed.D, you called him a liar without calling him a liar. Cutely done. Why would you do that? Oh, your sig is nlpcopywriting. Ah yes, the "Newbie" label when you really don't know if someone is or not. 14 year old players in online games do this to each other as a ego-boosting tactic, it usually fails. "You're a noobie," "Unh Uhn, am not, you're a noobie," "I am not, you are." You make a statement of fact, "Frank doesn't use sales letters these days," as if you have absolute knowledge or you are Frank. How do you do that with such certainty?

Collette, you can have any opinion you want, you can't have your own personal set of facts.
Fact is your post was insulting and derogatory, and it was meant to be just that, it's not humor, satire, irony nor was it a lame attempt to engage in an obscure brand of Aussie humor. And in your post you assert that this is pimping for a WSO, a no-no on WF. If that's true then the Mods usually take the thread down. What's your proof of that?
Since you are a copywriter competing with Mal and others and I supposed it's not unusual to be critical of someone else's work, but it's quite clear you were attacking Mal, not his work, especially with lines about burning incense and the uber-cool, super rad, rebel copywriter. Oh yes, your supporter MarkA thinks what you wrote is rude. I'll agree with that.
Collette, I'm curious, what makes you think you're immune to WF Rule #1?

Mark, you've referred to yourself in the third person a couple of times, do you do that often? What's the reason for that? It's quite and odd thing to read. It's NO secret that you don't like Mal and that's he's been critical of your work in the past, but to simply be a Cheerleader for Collette? It's kind of like you're hiding behind her, now that's ironic.
If you got banned for rudeness as you write and you would have enjoyed writing what she wrote, but you think you'd get banned again...then you must think Collette's post is rude? Should she be banned for rudeness as you were?

And Montello, saying "Maybe it's just that YOUR copy ain't worth a thing." How is that not attacking Mal? Maybe the Copywriting Forum has immunity from Rule #1. Let me ask you this Monetello, if Mal or anyone else said that about your writing, would you turn them in to the Mods? Would you be offended? You certainly are not talking about any specific piece of copy you've read, so you're not talking about the "work" you talking about another WF member, in a most negative way.



Collete, you wrote, "To clarify,Kev - No one was bashing Malcolm for being a newbie." Collete, did you read post #51, Dr. Harlan, Ed.D said, Frank's going to launch a new product and hire someone to do a sales letter. And he's going to have a newbie do it." How is that NOT calling Mal a newbie? Taken with the rest of that post it could hardly be called a "ringing, positive endorsement," bashing seems very accurate. Dripping with sarcasm seems a good description too, I mean c'mon this is the Copywriters Forum where the wordsmiths come and write, some with eloquence and wit.


Well, OK. A good spirited discussion. On with the show as some American once said.

Palo Coyote
Aka Tony Marino