Could "pleasure reading" help your copywriting?

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Has reading literature impacted your copy?

I'm curious to know if it has, and which books you've found to be especially inspiring.

It's kind of funny...

I came into copywriting entirely by chance. My ambitions were always to be a novelist, first, and a poet/academic, second. You know, one of the "elitist" academics who quibbles over which book wins the Booker prize. (Yawn.)

Most of all, I wanted to win a prize like that -- the Pulitzer, the National Book Award.

I was in the middle of STILL trying to finish my first novel (I went through MANY failed attempts) when I met a very unique guy who made his money on the internet.

I had no idea how he did it, or how he had so damn much money. (You'd think I was making this story up for a sales letter... :p)

He's kept a pretty low-profile since the early 2000s, and I think name-dropping is pretty trashy, but the guy is a brilliant marketer, and he taught me how to write sales letters.

I held my first fat stack of 20s--that's how the guy paid me--and I've been writing copy ever since.

Although I'm knee-deep in this IM stuff, I can't help but think about my roots.

While James Joyce and Mark Joyner -- or John Keats and John Carlton -- are COMPLETELY different writers, to the point that comparing the strengths of either would be absurd, I think we can learn something from the highbrow stuff some of us might have slept through in English class.

Lolita, for example, persuaded millions of ordinary people to empathize with and even "befriend" a murderer and a pedophile. For 400 pages! And you think selling an ebook is tough?

I think we can learn a lot from Nabokov, or Shakespeare, or Whitman...

What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author ShaneBoyd
    David,

    I couldn't agree more. Most copywriters I study from reads 4 or more books a week. Every book I've read I learned something new.

    Besides that David, it sounds like you have a passion for readins/writing about Nabokov, or Shakespeare, or Whitman, so why not use that passion to make you some money.

    You can land copywriting jobs for all types of markets, not just the "marketing and make money" brigade. You could easily write ad copy for plays, musicals and so on.

    Anyway, back to the point here. I read all kinds of books. I just finished a book called "The Power of Your Subconscious Mind" by Dr. Joseph Murphy. Now I'm reading "Your Best Life Now" by Joel Osteen.

    Each book I've read has influenced me in some way. So read on my friend.

    Peace,

    Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author la dominatrix
    Originally Posted by David Merriman View Post

    I came into copywriting entirely by chance. My ambitions were always to be a novelist, first, and a poet/academic, second. You know, one of the "elitist" academics who quibbles over which book wins the Booker prize. (Yawn.)
    I one of those people that read every day and I have read most of the Booker prize winners and nominations my favourite book
    Rushdie "Midnight's Children.

    However I have read something every day since I was fourteen so had years of reading vefore becoming a writer.

    La dominatrix
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    Some people can learn something from any experience. Others couldn't get a clue if you sent it to them via certified mail.

    They still can't write copy -- even with a swipe file.

    What you're talking about has the best bet for success in application to story based copywriting. Best look, not to Carlton or Joyner, but someone like J. Peterman. In the hands of someone like Peterman, a frock becomes a lead character in a romance novel.

    Story based copy can be tricky to use. You have to make the purchase fit in as a natural part, or "moral" of the story.

    Most warriors go wrong with this technique by telling there own story. The reader takeaway from the personal story is the author has exactly one data point -- their own success -- they've never produced a success for a customer.

    You can learn from almost anything -- I've seen direct response comic books. As you depart from the norm it takes a little more innovative application to succeed.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Pleasure reading definitely helps keep the mind fluid. Any reading, for that matter does. In his excellent book on the craft titled On Writing, Stephen King gets to the point regarding what it takes to be a good writer. Essentially, he says you've got to, (slight paraphrase here) "read a lot and write a lot." Simple.

    There's something about reading that helps the mind get the cadence and flow of your written words down. I read all the time, usually non-fiction but in the last few years I've found that reading novels really helps to recharge my writing batteries. After finishing a book my thoughts are more organized and I often just have the urge to write just for the sake of writing. I produce some of my best work after finishing a book, it's almost as if some unknown force just compells me to write.

    Technically speaking, I'm more of a content writer than a copywriter. But about 10 years ago I wrote an ebook on self-publishing and just naturally felt I had to write the sales copy. That sucker converted at around four percent. As it was my first online writing foray I was too green back then to realize that was an excellent conversion rate. My best conversion rate was for a self-hypnosis stop smoking ebook, which converted at just under eight percent. By then I knew that was exceptional.

    My style is to use stories to sell. The format is familiar to lots of copywriters. The subject has a problem or issue to deal with. He stumbles around searching for the solution, and often, when he's just about to throw in the towel, he finds the solution, which is the product or service I'm promoting.

    Last year I had a client who is a consultant to offline businesses. He's a heavy hitter but no one in the 'Info Product' venue would recognize him. He told me he's a member of a mastermind group of about 15 people meeting twice a month and that he pays $10,000 a month to participate. He shows his own clients (mainly offline businesses) how to market products and services online. One of the ways he does this is with article marketing. I usually ask for $.10 per word but since this guy was ordering 20 articles at a time, I discounted my rate to $.07 per word.

    I wrote hundreds of articles for him last year with the resouce box links pointing to the client's Website. He said the click-through rate was better than 50 percent. He was very pleased as his clients were getting lots of new business and making him look good. All of this was accomplished as a result of the story format I mentioned above. And I keep the juices flowing by reading, and reading and reading. Hell, I don't even own a TV.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Subtle
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      • Profile picture of the author Collette
        LOL, Subtle - I HAD to respond to this one.

        As a lifelong reader and lover of language, I've always HATED Henry James. I trudged through his books with all the joy of a whip-lashed prisoner on the Batan Death March.

        In college, I remember having bitterly passionate arguments with one of my professors who though Hank was The Standard By Which All Other Writers Should Be Measured.

        OTOH, I devoured any and everything by Papa, Steinbeck, Shakespeare, Achebe, Lee, Fitzgerald, Munro, Bradbury, Asimov, O'Connor, de Maupassant, and other greats. (notice many of these writers excelled in the short story )

        Guess that's why MEGAheadlines have always made my eyes glaze over faster than the surface of a Vermont duck pond on a January night.
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        • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
          Originally Posted by Collette View Post

          As a lifelong reader and lover of language, I've always HATED Henry James. I trudged through his books with all the joy of a whip-lashed prisoner on the Batan Death March.
          OMFG, The Ambassadors. I had nightmares about that piece of crap.

          James Joyce was another one. Why do people like Ulysses? What an awful book.

          I do positively love Dostoievsky, however. I don't understand why other people don't like him... he can evoke a scene like nobody else.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ross Bowring
            Hey, it's not Yeats or Joyce, but it can't hurt to study how Dan Brown makes each of his chapters into a mini cliff-hanger. Especially if you're spreading your selling story throughout your copy.
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          • Profile picture of the author Collette
            Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

            OMFG, The Ambassadors. I had nightmares about that piece of crap...

            .
            Dude. Word. Excessive Pain.

            Anything by Henry James can make your eyeballs bleed.

            The worst part for me was trying to write papers on the dude.

            Because, frankly I. Just. Didn't. Care.
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      • Profile picture of the author MarshallWayne
        Subtle, thank you for posting this. It's great advice from a master!
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  • Profile picture of the author devilishsaint
    Yeah book reading always contribute to good copywriting. These books give inspiration and vocabulary.
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by devilishsaint View Post

      These books give inspiration and vocabulary.
      Good point. That's another thing Stephen King says. He suggests that studying vocabulary for the sake of 'learning' words is a waste of time. Reading and experiencing new words in context is what builds vocabulary. Of course, if you come across a word that you don't know, you should look it up. But you folks already knew that
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  • Profile picture of the author mark z
    Although every reading helps copywriter to expand his views,
    I agree with Malcolm Bradbury saying:
    "A conventional good read is usually a bad read,
    a relaxing bath in what we know already.
    A true good read is surely an act of innovative creation in which we,
    the readers, become conspirators."
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  • Profile picture of the author SamKane
    Gary Halbert was a big fan of novels, and his salesletters were OK. Here's a paste from a Scott Haines article on writing like Gary Halbert. I'll include the original link at the bottom.
    Sam Kane


    "How To Write Copy Like Gary Halbert!"
    How do you like the headline above? But can it possibly be true? Can what I'm about to reveal really enable you to write copy like Gary Halbert?
    Actually, I can't say for sure. However, I do know it can certainly help you write copy more like Gary Halbert.
    How do I know that?
    Because it's one of the things he did to help make his writing truly great. You could say, it was his "ace-in-the-hole" or "secret weapon" when it came to writing some of the best advertising copy the world has ever seen. And it's this...
    Reading Good Novels
    You know, when you ask most experts what books you should read to learn how to write copy, the typical reply is something like: Scientific Advertising by Claude Hopkins. Tested Advertising Methods by John Caples. The Robert Collier Letter Book. Ogilivy on Advertising. Et cetera. And they're right. In fact, in my course (Shortcut Copywriting Secretsâ„¢) I list all the classic books everyone who wants to be an effective copywriter should read (and re-read).
    However, once a person has a deep and thorough understanding of these books... and... has taken advantage of a few of the better, current courses available, where should he (or she) go from there?
    Once again, to good novels. Let me explain-with a quick, real-life story-how reading novels helps you become a better copywriter.
    When Gary invited me to come down to Miami Beach in 1998, I already had a solid grounding in the basics. I had read and re-read all the classics. Read as much of Gary's stuff as I could get my hands on... including his book: How To Make Maximum Money In Minimum Time! In fact, I even went so far as to copy out that entire book in my own handwriting.
    So, I was beyond the absolute beginner level. However, I wasn't exactly a pro, either. Now, you'd think, since I still had plenty to learn, Gary would push his materials on me and tell me to study them intently. But he didn't. No, one of the most important things he did was buy me a novel.
    Here's what happened:
    Shortly after I arrived in Florida, we took a trip down to the Florida Keys. Marathon to be exact. And while in Marathon, we stopped at a bookstore. I picked up a health book to help me with a current project and Gary picked up a few paperbacks. After we got back in the car, Gary handed me one of the paperbacks and said...
    "You'll always remember where you were when
    Gary Halbert bought you your first Travis McGee novel."
    And, as a matter of fact-quite obviously-I still do. In fact, on a recent vacation to the Keys (April '08), I passed by that bookstore and the memory of him giving me that book was as vivid as the day he did it.
    Anyway, at that time, Gary didn't say, "Read this, it'll make you a better copywriter." No, he just told me that once I start reading Travis McGee, I'll become addicted. And I did. Not a rabid addiction, but I've slowly worked my way through the entire series (21 books in all) over the last 10 years.
    And now that I've finished all the books in the Travis McGee series, I consider that gift one of the most important things I ever received from Gary. Why? It's simple...
    Reading Those Books Made Me
    A Better Storyteller!
    And good storytelling ("in print" or "in person") is paramount to persuasion and selling.
    Want proof?
    You don't have to look any farther than Gary himself. His newsletters-widely regarded as the best marketing newsletters ever published-are almost impossible not to read. He was a master storyteller. And he honed his storytelling skills, at least in my estimation, by reading fiction.
    He was an inveterate fiction reader. And what most people don't realize is, he hardly ever read a book on marketing, advertising or selling. At least in his latter years. Sure, he'd thumb through something someone sent him. Or, he might buy a few things here and there that really caught his eye. But for the most part, during our scores of trips to bookstores all over the country, he bought, and then read, novels. Mostly of the mystery genre.
    In fact, one of our last trips to a bookstore-a Barnes & Noble on Biscayne Boulevard in Miami-was a quest for a semi-obscure Ian Fleming (James Bond series author) piece of writing titled...

    "Quantum of Solace"
    Gary insisted we find it, and insisted I read it... because... in his opinion, it was one of the best pieces of writing he had ever read. And it was/is. (If you're interested, you can find "Quantum of Solace" tucked inside Fleming's novel, For Your Eyes Only.)
    So, if you want to become a better copywriter-and you've covered the basics-start reading books written by good storytellers. Try the Travis McGee series written by John D. MacDonald. You know, Gary used lines in his copy that had a remarkable resemblance to lines in the McGee books. He used them in person. He used them as part of his philosophy.
    So there's much you can learn from fiction.
    And while I'm on the subject, in addition to reading good novels, you should also...
    Become An Observer Of Life And
    People... And... A Collector Of Stories.
    Gary was a master observer of life and people... and I... pretty much by osmosis, learned this from him. You see, many people go about their day half-asleep, paying little attention to the things that happen around them and to them. Big mistake. Your life can (and should be) source material for your copy. Let me give you a concrete example. It's an excerpt from a letter I wrote recently for a famous online marketer:

    "How To Write Better Copy, Faster!"
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  • Profile picture of the author reedcopywriting
    reading books, magazines and anything else I can get my hands on allows me to measure my own emotional reaction to certain words, themes or ideas.

    I can apply these emotional responses to my own copy.

    It's really just a good way to keep your ideas fresh!
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  • Profile picture of the author AnnaVZ
    Hi,
    My mother has always said that from the minute I learned to read I always had a book in my hand. I read lots of "good" books like biographies, travel (and even reference books on the odd occasion - old dictionaries are fabulous!) but trashy fiction novels are a great way to learn how to write to an audience. You cannot help but be influenced by what you have read in the past and I believe my chatty, social style of writing is enhanced by what I have read in the past.

    I don't know that I could say that there was a "single" book or author that has influenced me in particular but I do say don't be a literary snob. Sometimes taking little snippets from the strangest sources can be enlightening, and most importantly, inspirational when it comes to writing copy for your own products, sales letters or even for your own pleasure.

    Anyway, that's my two cents worth. Hope it helps.
    Anna
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    A copyWRITER should read. That's his brain food. You can't
    give without first getting.

    But you must know what you are reading for. If you want
    to write great copy then you must read great copy. If
    you want to be a novelist then read great novels.

    Not everything can be translated from other genres of
    writing into copywriting, but some things like clarity,
    simplicity, engagement, and story-telling techniques
    surely can.

    Some of the books studied for literature have subtle
    meanings that you have to study to uncover--you
    don't want your copy to be like this. You want the reader
    to get the message on the first reading.

    -Ray Edwards
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    • Profile picture of the author Lady_T
      I believe that pleasure reading is a good
      way to stimulate your creative juices.

      To tell you the truth, I crank out some
      of my best headlines from tabloid magazines.

      Their headlines always grab your attention.

      Even though you know there's a snowball's
      chance in he** the info is accurate or
      legitimate, I'm always suckered into
      picking up one in the grocery store line.

      I usually read three to four books a week.
      That's how I wind down my evening...
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  • Profile picture of the author erinwrites
    Reading and Writing are like peanut butter and jelly. They just kind of go together. One thing I notice in my own writing (thankfully I'm aware of this enough to stamp it down when I'm writing for clients) is that my words tend to take on the same feelings and phraseology of whatever it is that I've been reading lately. If I pick up something that I read in college (I studied Theater and English. If I never read an ancient Greek again I won't be sad) my writing becomes far wordier and flowerier than it is when I've been feeding my brain some blog candy.

    I think one of the best ways to keep your copy from sounding stale is to read anything but copy. Keep informed about current trends in the industry sure, but when all you read is copy you're going to pick up the stale catch phrases and the cliches, whether or not you want to. If you allow other forms of written expression into your head, you'll have more to draw from when you sit down to craft something for a client.
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  • Profile picture of the author rickstooker
    Everything John D McDonald wrote is worth reading. Personally I prefer some of his
    earlier and tougher novels to the Travis McGee series, especially the later, bloated ones
    where he became such -- such -- a social commentator.

    And if you can find his science fiction novel THE GIRL, THE GOLD WATCH
    AND EVERYTHING. grab it.

    There are similarities between fiction and sales copy. Both want to arouse emotion,
    so I believe copywriters can learn from fiction, but then have to map it over into
    product benefits to sell readers on buying the product. Fiction writers arouse emotion
    for its own sake -- to sell the reader on buying their next book, really, though few to
    none think like that.

    And copywriters can benefit from studying books on fiction writing. What is the much
    praised "conversational, bar stool style" of copy except extended dialog in the voice
    of the letter writer?

    And David Garfinkel for one teaches applying basic plot structures to copy.

    Frank Kern does the same when he talks about the "hometown boy makes good" or
    "reluctant hero" (think Frodo of the Lord of the Rings).

    best, Rick
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    • Profile picture of the author Collette
      Originally Posted by rickstooker View Post

      Everything John D McDonald wrote is worth reading. ...Rick
      Good noir writers, like Hammett. And good sports writing, too.

      I'm always amazed by how many people tell me they want to be a writer (of any kind), and reveal, in the next breath, that they "don't like to read".

      Seriously - how is it possible to separate one from the other?

      Plus, every really good copywriter I've ever met, read, or know of was a compulsive and voracious reader.
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