Why You Should Study Magicians To Learn To Write Compelling Copy

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One of the clients I write for has an interesting story.

His name is Mike Staumietis.

His father was one of the encyclopedia salesman who trained Gary Halbert to sell encyclopedias door-to-door.

At the time, "Big Mike" (as he's known today) didn't know who Gary Halbert was.

But years later, when he became a marketer, he'd realize what a great thing that was to have been around world-class talent like that.

One of the greatest lessons I've learned from Mike is how magicians are perfect models for marketers of all sorts. Because they are masters of misdirection.

Speaking of the late great Prince of Print, he used this principle all the time.

He would often write about the "credit card mafia". About how credit card processing companies, when you flooded them with too many orders in too short a span of time, had the ability to shut your business down indefinitely for any whimsical suspicion they may have (fraud, laundering, or maybe they just plain don't like you).

The story about the credit card processors is true, but while you were focusing on that... what was really being communicated implicitly was that he was a copywriter who regularly generated enough money to shut down credit card processors. Those are the sorts of problems that greedy business owners hungry to hire a good copywriter are only too happy to have. So you see how that positioned him?

You could say the entire art of magic (and marketing) is really misdirection. To slip right by resistance. That's what their presentations are all about. While you're looking one way, they're getting away with murder in plain view because you're distracted. They've managed to absorb all your attention onto this one finite point.

The best magician I know of to study so you can learn to do this yourself... and I mean across the board... in terms of skill, presentation, and just wonderful showmanship (he's really fun to watch), is hands down a conjurer from the UK called "Derren Brown".

The cool part is... you can find almost all of his material free on youtube. Just type "Derren Brown" into the youtube search engine.

If you're part of the copywriting community, you may or may not know about hypnosis and NLP, which Derren regularly displays a good amount of skill with. So you may be interested in watching "The Heist", where Derren uses both of these skills (and more that will be useful to the clever salesman) to influence people to commit armed robbery in broad daylight in London - of their own free will.

Also, a good place to start, is his interview with Richard Dawkins.

The reason I really like Derren though... what's really special about him... is he's an iconoclast. He's completely ready to exercise an attitude of faith and be open to the truth, whatever it may be. And so he will venture out and experiment with suggestibility and see what he can get people to believe. How those beliefs affect their behavior. And most importantly... he challenges beliefs that have been far too long unchallenged.

He's always ready to smoke out the charlatans by replicating their "feats" and then showing how its done so people can choose for themselves what they ought to believe.

In any case... check out Derren Brown on youtube, especially "The Heist", "The Seance", and his interview with Richard Dawkins.

I think you'll all be shocked to see what you can learn from him, and you may find yourself very pleasantly surprised how you can apply what you learn from Derren to your own sales challenges.

P.S. What is communicated implicitly is really the art of any sort of communication, and soon I'll post some really cool tricks about how you can use this tool of implied messages. For me, it's meant schmoozing with world-class marketing talent and getting copywriting jobs without promoting myself at all. But I'm lazy. If you're a "hard-charger", it's actually sort of scary to think what could be possible.

P.P.S. I'll also be sharing some insights with you about NLP in the future. I've never been certified officially, but I got Ross Jeffries to buy me lunch in a contest at one of his seminars, and I was going head-to-head with certified master practitioners. The man is controversial, but he's easily the best teacher of hypnotic communication you could ever hope to learn from. Bandler, Grinder, et al. are good... but Ross is the Zen master. You'll "get it" much faster if you learn from him.

More to come soon, Warriors.

Peace.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    It's not available for embedding but here's "The Heist" -
    You're welcome.
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    • Profile picture of the author josephkerr
      Hey, thanks a lot man. I still don't have enough posts to do grown up stuff yet. Good lookin' out.
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      • Profile picture of the author SpyGuy
        The world of magic is jam packed with hidden gems that help with copy and sales.

        I have some "cold reading" material that would blow your mind.

        Learing how fake psychics read people, string clients along and cheat people is insane.

        Ever hear of Richard Webster? Ron Martin? They know exactly what people want to hear and how to say it to them.

        Heck, even Harry Anderson has some old school hustler stuff that rocks.

        Banachek? Paul Wilson? Simon Lovell? Walter Gibson? All the old time / new school hustler, bunko, carnival scam goodness that was crafted by the craftiest SOB's on earth.


        Psychological Subtleties, NLP, Indirect Hypnosis etc.. is all used in magic and in copy.


        Are there any other warrior members that have gotten into magic on a "serious" level and can relate?
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  • Profile picture of the author ghyphena
    I've been doing magic on and off since I was 8... and for the past few years I've moved from sleight of hand more into mentalism - especially psychological-based mentalism, a la Derren Brown.

    I don't practice so much these days, but the principles certainly come in handy when it comes to misdirection and contextual framing.

    Every good bullet is like a magic trick. You build it up so that it appears spectacular from the audience's point of view... yet when you find out the secret, it is - while not dishonest - invariably underwhelming. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Originally Posted by josephkerr View Post


    One of the greatest lessons I've learned from this client is how magicians are perfect models for marketers of all sorts. Because they are masters of misdirection.

    Speaking of the late great Prince of Print, he used this principle all the time.

    He would often write about the "credit card mafia". About how credit card processing companies, when you flooded them with too many orders in too short a span of time, had the ability to shut your business down indefinitely for any whimsical suspicion they may have (fraud, laundering, or maybe they just plain don't like you).

    The story about the credit card processors is true, but while you were focusing on that... what was really being communicating implicitly was that he was a copywriter who regularly generated enough money to shut down credit card processors. Those are the sorts of problems that greedy business owners hungry to hire a good copywriter are only too happy to have. So you see how that positioned him?
    Great post and demonstration of the the same principle, since you are
    using the same 'trick' in your post. You've learned it well.

    -Ray Edwards
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Originally Posted by josephkerr View Post

    I've never been certified officially
    Me neither mate. But it could happen anytime now.
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  • Profile picture of the author josephkerr
    Paul, haha! You got me. I was bracing for impact.Ultimate zing! Now this is getting fun...
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  • Profile picture of the author Nathan Alexander
    As a part-time professional magician for over ten years, I can tell you there are a lot of skills that are very transferable to marketing. It's blown me away at how much I can attribute to it...

    Oddly enough though I stongly dislike (hate sounds too strong) most magicians. Who knows...

    But still, I'd rather pick-up Robert Collier's book. A deck of cards can't tell me much.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Bowring
      Derron Brown is really worth a study. Harlan Kilstein's NLP stuff is really worth a study. But as Harlan always preaches, it's about using it in elegant, rather than ham-fisted fashion.
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      • Profile picture of the author CopyMonster
        Agreed - Derren is pretty interesting to watch.

        Along with the Heist, one of his more memorable shows was where he "converted" a number of people in a church who were non-believers into believers. After witnessing his feat, the church priest/reverend was convinced Derren had some special power. He was also able to convince some psychics he had psychic abilities as well.

        There's always more than one level to any communication. There's the content itself and then any inferences drawn from it. If I told you "I just traded my Humvee in for a shiny German sportscar because I got tired of driving the beast on wheels". You could draw a number of things from that. In NLP land you get to hear about presuppositions which can be used to slide in various pieces of communications you might want to impart... that can powerful stuff if you know how to use it.

        Playing around with frames can be fun too and dare I suggest even more powerful.

        Speaking of Halbert, I recently watched a video of a presentation he gave. The Prince of Print himself admitted there was something far more important than the copy itself. I won't divulge what he said but it relates somewhat to the previous sentence.

        Look forward to reading your other discoveries Joseph.
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        Scary good...
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        • Profile picture of the author SpyGuy
          I was going through some of my old cold reading and indirect hypnosis cards looking for some copy ideas for getting in peoples heads.

          Here are a few that made me giggle.



          1) You've known for some time now that you've been given certain talents... very special talents unique only to you. And while you've known of these abilities, you haven't fully acted on them now, have you? And a person can wonder, really wonder, why they do not do what they know they could or perhaps should. Isn't this true?

          2) People in the ____ (Internet Marketing) business have an unusually strong intuition. Being in touch with this power may be one reason why you are drawn to ____ (this form of work, sales, marketing etc)

          3) Because you have taken the time to _____ (read my report), I can tell you are uniquely qualified in many ways. One of them is knowing how to be a good listener.

          4) Truth be known, you are fiercely independent. You have chosen to live life by your rules. And as you think about this, you may begin to recall a specific example in your mind now amused with yourself about how independent you really are.

          5) "How surprised will you be next week when you suddenly discover that you are naturally and automatically drawn to _______ (eating healthy foods, creating wso's, market research)

          6) "how delighted will you be when you find yourself ____ (making gym bags full of crispy 100 dollar bills) next week.

          7) "The unconscious mind is more powerful than the conscious mind, you know. It's a funny thing how, without even thinking about it consciously, a person can make the positive changes you desire, right now, without any conscious effort whatsoever. And I'm wondering how surprised you will be when you discover that the change has already started to happen?"
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          • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
            Well, honestly I don't know about all that stuff.

            But I can tell you this.

            This week my clients took me to see David Copperfield in Las Vegas. Front row seats. Meet and greet with Mr. Copperfield. It was real treat.

            Amazing. Even from the first row, we couldn't figure out how he made a car appear out of thin air.

            What was the big takeaway?

            My clients now have a new term they use with me: They tell I have to do a "David Copperfield"--produce prospects, customers and orders out of thin air.

            Damn him.

            - Rick Duris
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