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It's crazy how internet marketing email writers travel in packs.

Just today, I got an email that started with:
"It's crazy - the membership site "design software" alone
is worth over $197."
I have no idea what this person is talking about.

Another email began:
"It's CRAZY to think that 94.51%
of the people FAIL online because
they have NO CLUE how to develop
a successful online business.'"
So the other 6.49% succeed because they make up statistics on the spot?

Yet another writer hedges his bets:
"'OK, this is just kind of crazy. . ."
So it's not really crazy, just kind of crazy.

And: "this is pretty crazy, i just found out about a website
that is making this guy over 50k a month in RESIDUAL income."
So exciting that in the rush to tell me, there wasn't even time to use the shift key. Oh wait, there was, but not for the things that would make your message easy to read with standard punctuation.

Today's next theme is: "Let me tell you all about what I ate so you feel like I'm a personal friend."

An email began: "I was just about to head to lunch at Chipotle and try to
beat the rush but wanted you to see this..."
This message showed up in my email box before breakfast, thanks for the irrelevant detail about your personal life.

Another starts: "Dude, I gotta tell you about this...

This morning I went over to my buddies
place for a traditional Irish breakfast: Irish bacon,
fried eggs, tomatoes, toast and beans.

Or so I thought."

No, Dude, I don't really care what you had for breakfast.

And then there's the meme of trying to win me over by telling me that I should admire your friends.

These are all separate emails that arrived in my email box in the last 24 hours.

"My friend [a] wants to turn YOU into an [catchy term]."

"My friend "[b]" has just released some extremely valuable
information and is allowing me to give it away to you for free
today ($97 value)!"

"Last month a couple of friends of mine - [c]
and [d] finished a new service they'd been working
on."

"My friend [e] just released the
internet's most massive giveaway ever:"

"[f] added you as a friend on Facebook..."
(That's hard to do since I'm not on Facebook.)

Remember, these all showed up this same morning, before my good friend and I went for a snack at McDonald's.

"I just finished talking with a friend of mine about an
ebook she just finished writing. [g] is currently
selling this but she has been generous enough to let me
offer it to my subscribers for FREE!"

"[h] has over delivered with this video tutorial course.
6 modules and over 2 hours of high quality internet marketing info," (This is how the email begins, and it doesn't come from h.)

"I found the owner of this technique, and
he was kind enough to put the 7 page PDF
up on the web for me and my subscribers.
Ironically, [i] already knew him." (Amazing, two people in the same small industry might have met! Will wonders never cease!)

"Hope you're doing great! Today is a great day because my good friend
and fellow marketer [j] has given me permission to grant
you access to a great f'ree report!"

"I just got a special tip from one of my friends, [k]."

"My friend, [l], has decided to
giveaway one of her ebooks on how you
can write like a MANIAC." (I thought I already had that handled, after all, it's crazy!)

Again, these all showed up the same day, before my friend and I went to the supermarket to take advantage of their good price on tomato soup. It's crazy how if you buy one can, the next is 50% off!

"My good buddy [m] has created a product showing step by step
how to grow your list by over 1000+ in only one month:"

"I've secured a VERY special free gift
for you, it's from my friend [n]."

"A friend of mine [o] has just finished his
new List Building report ..."

"I HAD to get this email to you right away, my close friend
[p] has allowed me to send you free backdoor access
to his incredible set of tutorials."

"[q], my friend from Canada has put together a fantastic free report for you:"

"
A short message today...(from my friend [r])"

"
I have something valuable for you that been set up with my marketing friend [s]-"

"
I talked my good friend [t] into doing
something very special for my subscribers:-"

Did I mention that it's crazy that these all came in before I had my kielbasa and granola this morning? If you fry up the sausage and add milk to the granola, it's amazing how great it tastes!

"I HAD to get this email to you right away, my close friend [u] has allowed me to send you a f'ree link
to download his incredible PDF report."

"I have another awesome free gift for you from my
good friend [v]."

"My good buddy [w] has a truly useful gift for you
today. The PDF-Brander enables you to Brand your web-presence in
a viral newsletter that you can give away, thus getting yourself
known all over the web!"

"I have another awesome f'ree gift for you from my
good friend [x]."

"I've arranged a special free download for you from my friend [y]."

"Here's a awesome free gift for you from my good friend [z]" (First name only was used here... it's so urgent there's no time for last name or a period at the end of the sentence.

And I haven't even finished opening today's email!
Now this is crazy! Are all of these people really that friendly? Or all they all lazily overusing a trite way to try to build a sense of connection, without going to the bother of actually building a sense of connection?

Can all the lazy writers just go have breakfast with each other and stay out my mailbox, until they can come up with something that's original and actually interesting?

Chris

P.S. It's crazy, but I made up the tomato soup sale. I don't really know if there's a good price on it today or not. While I have my fries at McDonald's (I like 'em with ketchup), my friend will probably check the newspaper for coupons. that way if theres an extra special sale i wont miss out!!!!
#crazy
  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    You *do* know you can always unsubscribe... right?

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  • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
    I know that I can, but that's not the point of my post. The point is: how likely is it that so many people independently came to the identical conclusion, that they should use a really dumb mention of craziness, food, and friendship as their hook for copywriting?

    There is obviously some extreme group-think going on with the writers of these emails. My guess is that some course told people to load up their autoresponders with "it's crazy," "what I'm eating," and "my good friend." I guess that a bunch of cut & paste hack writers substituted that advice for any original thought about how to provide quality service to their lists.

    There's a lesson in here for online copywriters. And I think it's a bigger lesson than just that Chris should unsubscribe from junk mail lists - although that lesson is also true.

    If I see more interest in the thread, I'll post example of high quality, original sales letter writing. But I want to flush away the groupthink mentality first.
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    • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
      Originally Posted by Mr. Enthusiastic View Post

      If I see more interest in the thread, I'll post example of high quality, original sales letter writing. But I want to flush away the groupthink mentality first.
      Just want to chime in with my interest. Always interested in seeing what other pros see as high quality.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
        Originally Posted by Oxbloom View Post

        Just want to chime in with my interest. Always interested in seeing what other pros see as high quality.
        Thanks for the interest. Gems are rarer than mud, so it might take a while for one to come along! When I see some gems I'll pass them along too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    I might be alone in this mentality... but I really think you might want to invest in a tinfoil hat

    People have *always* said "my friend"... and usually it's true. These guys meet at seminars etc after all.

    Crazy... well that's just hyperbole. IMHO it's not particularly effective but it's not the idea that's poor, just the execution.

    As for the food... I guess they're just trying to make a personal connection. I mean, two people mentioning brekafast doesn't exactly equal some internet marketing conspiracy in my mind.

    But maybe that's exactly what they WANT me to think!

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    • Profile picture of the author matthewd
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      But maybe that's exactly what they WANT me to think!
      Oh no, they've already gotten to you!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      I might be alone in this mentality... but I really think you might want to invest in a tinfoil hat
      Haha! Buytinfoilhats.com recently expired. The only problem is that I need to stock the ones that spiral in the opposite direction for customers from the Southern Hemisphere. Otherwise you could be affected by pyramid-building UFO rays from the past.

      People have *always* said "my friend"... and usually it's true. These guys meet at seminars etc after all.

      Crazy... well that's just hyperbole. IMHO it's not particularly effective but it's not the idea that's poor, just the execution.
      There ya go, that's what I couldn't quite put my finger on. If the person really is a friend, why not tell some anecdote about time spent together? About their unique insight, sense of humor, the time they helped take the writer's dog to the vet? If something really is crazy or astonishing, why not write a couple of lines about how unusual and surprising it is?

      Same thing with the food. Don't just mention you're going to a place that doesn't necessarily have branches worldwide. Talk a little bit about how they have funky decor and a really unique pineapple salsa. It sounds like a crazy combination but it's really delicious.

      Talk about how pineapple is great, salsa is great, they're both from a warm climate but nobody combined them before Chipotle. Then transition into how that salsa is like this new marketing idea, it combines free email and paid web sites to grow your list faster than ever before.

      In fact, it made it possible for your good friend who helped you with the dog (remember him?) to add 2,735 subscribers in the first two weeks he tried it.

      C'mon, people, tell a story I can relate to, not just some recycled meme as an excuse for really writing!

      And quit telling me you linked up to me on a social networking site I never joined and never will!

      Either that, or send me my darn complimentary tinfoil hat already.

      Well that clears the rant out of my system. Can I get a refund on this hat?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr. Enthusiastic
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      The Mysterious Alien Overlords...
      You totally cracked me up and made my day. I for one welcome our mysterious online hat-vending overlords. Thanks a lot for the laugh!
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  • Profile picture of the author GetMoreTraffic
    Internet marking is a small world. Everybody is on everybody else's list. They see a great subject line, and think, "hey, I can use that..." If you've seen it that often, it must be a good one. I think I'll try it myself...
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  • Profile picture of the author Jennie Heckel
    Dear All,

    Recently noticed on some landing pages & sales letters for IM stuff, that there is *** NO REFUND*** available with PayPal... guess the gurus are getting sick of refunds on the 59th day!

    If you sell a high quality product with decent support people will want to keep it.

    I agree with the posts - I get too much junk mail these days... sometimes you get hooked up with a list since SOMEBODY SOLD YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, THEN WATCH OUT FOR THE "hey - you're my friend" "let's get a pizza", "my great new free ebook" emails will snow you under!

    And here in Wisconsin that is a BAD thing!

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  • Profile picture of the author Griffon
    This is one of the funniest posts I have ever read on this forum. Kudos to you while making a very useful point. Your inbox sounds a lot like mine...ITS CRAZY!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author writeright
    [f] added you as a friend on Facebook..."
    (That's hard to do since [I]I'm not on Facebook)

    This one takes the cake. It is simply stupid, really. You can't jus' wild guess that everyone's on facebook and send in junk mails. Insult to intelligence... sigh!
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