I need a good copywriter :(

by Mircea
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I have this new site that has a garbage sales letter, Complete Wedding Plan: Learn How To Save Up To 75% Of Your Wedding Costs! ! It is short and doesn't 'catch you' at all...Also gets into the save money thing to early, I think. I only had 1 sale in 2 or 3 weeks I'm not an expert with aff marketing but this is a very weak result :|

Know anyone that can help me? And the price, too? I'm not after cheap quality, but can't digest 1$/word either.
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  • Profile picture of the author PRandContent
    Wow your sales page's headline is reeeeaaallllyyyy long That alone should be changed ASAP!
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    • Profile picture of the author ic7
      You know, If I were writing it I would stay with this theme: This is a one of a kind day. This is your day. It can be a dream day -- if you know how to avoid the pitfalls.

      Something like that. Basically the product you are selling is peace of mind. It's "worry insurance". Also, the tone should be like one friend talking to another. And it's not clear in the writing if it is consistently a woman talking to the bride.

      You might just give it a try yourself. Try a re-write. Or you can check in the Classifieds section for a writer. Or you can PM me and we can work something out.

      Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    The background-red bar stretching the width of the page looks as if the letter ends at "...without giving up the things that are most important to you."

    Little tip. Don't make the letter look like it ends before you 1) mention you have something to sell 2) Ask for the money

    Think about getting rid of the color bars (or any element, really) which are visual speed bumps or barriers to reading. You want subheads to do that work, not design elements.

    The order button almost invisibly blends into the image for the book. Make sure order buttons 1) Look like clickable buttons 2) Are highly visible

    A lot of the bullets aren't compelling. Unfortunately, they are also so information poor it's hard to figure out what they actually mean to even guess at a rewrite.

    Finally, you don't explain why anyone should believe what you say. The letter is all claims, no proof. You're so petrified about not giving anything away, the reader gets the impression of no "there" there.

    You may have heard the line "sell the sizzle, not the steak." You get nowhere trying to charge money simply the hear the sizzle. You give the sizzle away in order to get people to buy the steak.

    Think about a theme or big idea which ties the elements together, like exposing the wedding industry.

    Unfortunately, too many people are selling the sizzle ...then delivering a cold, stale, ham sandwich. You'll have to do exponentially better convincing people you can do what you claim. Testimonials and some background can accomplish that.

    Finally, planning a wedding seems like a lot of work and frustration. What you're selling seems like a whole lot more work on top of everything else ...extra work haggling (many people hate negotiating and beating up people over price). ....extra work on research, price checking and comparison shopping (to the reader's mind, you just doubled or tripled the number of places to check out. So it seems like stacking all that stuff on top the magazines and brochures already piled up will make a bride's head explode)

    The market for head exploding complications is relatively small, is my guess.

    Anything that makes the process more horrendous than it already is would be a sales disaster. So I sorta understand the results.

    ...can't digest $1/word either
    When you're talking about saving 75% on $22,000 (average) weddings, you should be left with a budget fitting most copywriters. Not even an issue for someone such as yourself.
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    • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
      center justification is hard to read. Go for left justify.
      You can center your headline and subheads, but people
      won't read body text in a centered format.

      Your headline is bloated with words you don't need:
      "Discover Exactly How You Can Have The Wedding You Have Always Dreamed About On A ShoeString Budget Without Cutting Corners!"

      when really what you want to communicate is something like:

      "Have Your Dream Wedding On A ShoeString Budget Without Cutting Corners!"

      This one is still not great. I don't care for the negation of "without" -
      though you have yourself in a position of promising champaigne for
      the price of beer.

      I'm wondering HOW? This begs for bullet points:

      - how you can get a triple-tier cake for 1/3 the price! (page. 13)
      - how to rent tables and chairs for next to nothing! (page. 21)
      ...and so on.

      If you actually have a system to implement a fancy wedding and save
      thousands of dollars you have to prove it.

      It starts to lead in another headline direction. What's the story?
      Is it that Amanda thought she would have to settle for a small
      wedding until she found out how she could stretch her budget?

      "They Told Her A Big Wedding Wasn't In Her Budget!"

      Amanda had her heart set on a grand wedding attended by her 47
      cousins and dozens of girlfriends, but she was worried sick trying
      to decide who she would and would not invite to the special day...

      The wedding she always imagined included all her friends, but when
      she looked at her budget excluding most of them seemed to be the
      only solution!

      (see where I am going here?)
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      • Profile picture of the author wordwizard
        Just a few thoughts...

        I agree that the big red bar has to go.

        And the guarantee section right below it needs to move way down in the letter. So far, you haven't really given the reader a reason to buy anything. So that's not yet the place to ask for money, let alone offer a refund if they should be dissatisfied with their to-be-hoped-for purchase.

        A note about the subheads... when scanning, some people read just those, and the way they flow they don't fit together very well, as they go from "You deserve the wedding of your dreams" to "and it gets worse"

        Think about the implications of that juxtaposition!

        Instead, after talking about the positive, consider using the negative subhead right away as you introduce the negative stuff:

        "but unfortuntely, money often gets in the way..." which leads you to your discussion of all the pitfalls.

        Also, I would maintain the personal tone throughout, and make it all flow like in a story, so that the reader is drawn in and doesn't get a chance to stop reading until she's at the buy button, which she's compelled to click ;-)

        Hope this is helpful.

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    • Profile picture of the author Mircea
      Thanks everyone for the help, I already implemented most of your advices!
      Originally Posted by John_S View Post

      When you're talking about saving 75% on $22,000 (average) weddings, you should be left with a budget fitting most copywriters. Not even an issue for someone such as yourself.
      As I said, I'm quite new to affiliate marketing and spending 1500$ of my montly earnings on a sales page is a risk I don't want to take...yet.
      There are good copywriters that aren't so busy and offer discounts or have skills and want to prove themselves or talented work at home moms (:x) that can offer great quality/price. I got some good offers already and will take a decision soon!

      Thanks again everyone for your inputs.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
        Originally Posted by Mircea View Post

        Thanks everyone for the help, I already implemented most of your advices!


        As I said, I'm quite new to affiliate marketing and spending 1500$ of my montly earnings on a sales page is a risk I don't want to take...yet.
        There are good copywriters that aren't so busy and offer discounts or have skills and want to prove themselves or talented work at home moms (:x) that can offer great quality/price.
        Got a news flash for you: $1500 won't hire you many good or even great copywriters. Most of the copywriters I know start at $3K and go upwards of $100K plus royalties.

        You might get lucky and find someone under $1500 who does a rock solid job but only if you are catching them while they are still building their reputation and portfolio.

        As for the "talented work at home moms" comment... 99.9% of the copywriters I know work from home because they don't need a formal office to work from. I know quite a few work at home moms who make 6 figures doing so, so don't think WAHM means cheap labor.

        If you're serious about getting great copy for your business, you should give a damn what gender your copywriter is... where they work... or how well-known (or not) they are known. You should focus on one end result: does their copy deliver results for you.

        For copywriting, gender means practically zippo. Same for ethnic race.

        For years, the headlines for Cosmo magazine were written by the owner's husband (a professional copywriter).

        One of the top converting Viagra-alternatives aimed at the African-American male market was written by a Caucasian mid-40s woman.

        Two of the best $10K and up copywriters I know could consider English to be their second language.

        If you don't have much funds to work with, be honest. Leave the WAHM comments offline. You'll get better treatment from the copywriters at large in this forum.

        Best of luck,

        Mike
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Williams
          Hi Mireca,

          I am confident I can get this sales letter converting well for you. I am one of those people alluded to above who is an excellent copywriter but is still new to the field and building his portfolio.

          I generally spend my time creating my own products but I am looking to jump into the copywriting field at a high level as another solid source of income. I need more testimonials and references before I make my "big move" so now would be a good time to catch me.

          You can contact me for an extensive list of samples and referrals of my previous work.

          If you are quick to fill out my questionnaire I can have your letter ready by Friday.

          Looking forward to helping you grow your business.

          Mike Williams
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  • Profile picture of the author ahlexis
    I'm no expert on color, but when I first see the site the color red screams "danger". Maybe that's your intent, but it took me viewing the site three times before I noticed the "warning" part at the top.

    If you stick with the red color (which may actually work for you) then the warning should be a bit bigger or made to stand out some other kind of way.

    My eyes headed straight for the headline that reads "Discover Exactly How..." And that's not necessarily a bad thing, but the warning part needs to be more noticable in my opinion. The color red is a subconcious stop sign, which goes well with the "warning" quote. The problem is, the "warning" quote I barely see.

    How about "Dear Future Bride, Planning Your Wedding Day Before Reading This Guide Will Cause You To Waste Your Money!!!" ?

    Nobody likes to waste their money, it's a powerful hook.

    And THEN give them the congratulations.
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  • Profile picture of the author janet444
    Mircea,

    Just because a professional copywriter is a mom and works at home doesn't mean she should undercharge for her services.

    I don't mean to sound argumentative, but being a single mom who works at home (just as most freelance copywriters do), I get upset when people think I somehow need less of an income than others.

    Janet
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
    Lose the prehead entirely.

    Get some more white space in the deck and start off with a powerful headline.

    You can always try a new twist on an old favorite like this...

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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Cheesman
      Brian,

      I like what you just did! I like it a lot better than before..

      Dennis
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  • I'm not getting married any time soon, but I almost wanted to buy from the headline. Why? Because I have champagne taste, but would prefer a beer budget. On everything. Almost bought it for if/when I do get married. If the rest of the copy is that good, you should do fine.

    Come back in a week or so with new test results. If you still need a copywriter, I'm sure plenty of people here (including myself) would be willing to help. My rates & portfolio are in my signature, and being female, I do have a slight advantage in writing for your target market.

    Good luck!

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  • Profile picture of the author colmodwyer
    There are good copywriters that aren't so busy
    Mostly good copywriters are busy, mostly...

    Colm
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