Feedback on sales page please?

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I sell an e-book/audio package (Novel Writing Made Easy--link in my signature) teaching writers to plan and write a novel, and it's been selling for 3 years, and doing about $500 a month on autopilot--truly, I've done nothing. I thought if I updated it and added bonuses and such, I could improve sales, and so far, it's been the opposite. I'm converting at about 1/4 percent, if that. I tried lowering the price for 10 days and that didn't help.

I'd be SO grateful to receive feedback on why you think the site isn't converting.

Thanks so much.

Ande
#feedback #page #sales
  • Profile picture of the author M_Jones
    The very first thing you see when you visit this page, is a black circle on someone's face.

    It has the words "you" written on it... This made me click off of the page - Nobody wants to see a face spray painted or blotched out. A better alternative may be to have a torso or face shot which has their hand on their forehead, illustrating that they may be having a hard time... Or if the projection is to be showing a successful book signing, then show a person who is successfully book signing - not a person with a blotched out face, and then having the word "you" on it....

    I think the rest of the sales copy is ho hum. It doesn't really excite me. Maybe if there were more creative adverbs and adjective, it may entice me the whole way through.
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    • Profile picture of the author andewags
      Thanks! I appreciate the feedback.
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  • Profile picture of the author M_Jones
    No problem - you are already ahead of the curve, by having a sales letter. Just spend some time in these forums, and review some of the great copy writers. You will soon see a pattern which you can implement into your own sales copy.
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  • Profile picture of the author jukeboxhero
    Why do people want to write books first off?

    So that they'll "Sell"...

    There must be more to it than that except that's all your promising...

    What's going to happen when I land that book contract? That's the juicy stuff..

    What's it going to be like once I'm published? create a vivid picture for me...

    What if I don't know what it's like staring a blank screen... You just lost me, why not tell them about how you were staring a blank screen then see if your audience identifies with it...

    But the itch just won't let you do that, will it? ---> Deep down in the craw of your gut you know you've got a novel in you... and it'll be a great novel too!


    --Go through and remove about 90% of your "That" and "That's"... Unnecessary and wasteful words.

    I like the bullets and love the IDEA of the picture ESPECIALLY the saying... Keep the saying for sure.

    However I would perhaps show people lining up and you signing their books otherwise at first glance it looks like your saying... "Someday if your lucky this could be you sitting at an empty table"...



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    • Profile picture of the author andewags
      Thanks! That's great feedback! I'll get to work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    Ande (how do you pronounce that?),

    I had a quick skim of your page.

    Some thoughts...

    1. Try and push the benefits of this a little more obviously. You talk about "feeling good" for actually having a written book, but that's kind of esoteric.

    What about receiving check after check of royalties in the mail for years... even while you're sitting on your ass?

    What about the fame... recognition... and prestige of being a published author?

    What about walking into the bookstore and seeing your book as a best-seller?

    These are things you touch on briefly, but they could use more "oomph".

    2. You are making WAY too little a deal about your credibility/expertise. If I was writing that page you can bet your ass the term "expert author reveals" would likely be in the headline.

    3. I think you could cut down on the number of bullets you have. Try to cut out the important ones or merge several unimportant bullets into one important one. Also - push benefits, not features.

    There are a lot of other issues but these are a few that jumped out at me.

    Kind regards,

    -Dan
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      Hi Ande,

      You have got great recognition, publicity and testomonials there...unfortunatly they are not bought out in the front to shine! It would be great if you can get the graphics of the media you have appeared in and put them up the very top.

      The overall piece is hard to read because of the small type...try going up 2 types.

      If you can nail the single biggest thing your readers want to achieve, that would be great because you can then put it in the headline and diffuse scepticism with all the reasons why you can deliver on the promise and back it up with very clear, detailed and with different sources of proof. Looks like you have the proof, it just needs to be structured in a more compelling way.

      Those are the areas I see you improving results from.

      All the best,
      Ewen
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    • Profile picture of the author andewags
      Thanks, Dan. That's very helpful feedback. I appreciate your taking the time.
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      • Profile picture of the author DrFresh
        I'd just make the whole thing brighter.. New but similar header image, change the background color from black to something like peach.. hmm.. That's awesome to hear you haven't done any promotion.. Just switch in a new brighter lp for a month or so and see if it converts better.

        I wouldn't worry about doing any extensive changes until you know something simple like changing the dark-ness won't help.
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        • Profile picture of the author andewags
          Thanks to all of you! Using your suggestions, I've redone the whole page, cutting it by 40 percent and redoing headlines. I didn't change the background yet, Dr. Fresh, but that's an intriguing idea. I'll try that too. Thanks again!
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          • Profile picture of the author AmyKz
            Ande,
            Now that you've made changes, please report back on what's happening with your conversion rate. I have thoughts to share with you as well, but reading everyone's comments, I can see you could lose your mind after a while trying to do everything that's being suggested. I don't think you need any more suggestions right now; you need to road-test what you've got.

            So report back - and if you're not happy with the conversion, also feel free to PM me and I'll take a really detailed look for you.

            I'm a salesletter copywriter.

            Good luck!
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            • Profile picture of the author andewags
              Hey Amy,

              You offered, in a post, to take a look at my sales page at Novel Writing Made Easy (link in my signature line) and suggested I PM you--I'm not allowed to do that yet on this forum. But the changes to my sales page went live on Monday, and I've had 0 sales since (about 100 visitors a day). Ugh. If you were serious about taking a look and making suggestions, I'd be very grateful for your input.

              Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    Originally Posted by andewags View Post

    I sell an e-book/audio package (Novel Writing Made Easy--link in my signature) teaching writers to plan and write a novel, and it's been selling for 3 years, and doing about $500 a month on autopilot--truly, I've done nothing.

    I thought if I updated it and added bonuses and such, I could improve sales, and so far, it's been the opposite. I'm converting at about 1/4 percent, if that. I tried lowering the price for 10 days and that didn't help.

    I'd be SO grateful to receive feedback on why you think the site isn't converting.

    Thanks so much.

    Ande
    Ande,

    First it is a "lot to choose from" market, including big players like Writer's Digest.

    Whenever I do take a look, and it is rare, I'll read it all the way through. It was hard to do with your site. Way too much "writing" in my opinion and too little salesmanship. But, let me point out some very good things which are buried.

    This is a strong sentence and could easily be the lead:

    I've planned, written, and polished a 500-page novel in 60 days using the Novel Writing Made Easy System...and I've had THREE of my books published. You can too.

    I'm not big on RED and Blue text in headlines and it makes it look less than professional. But a simple test will tell you what works.

    The book signing table looks like a kitchen table. Where are the lines of people in the store waiting to buy the STACK of books on the table? It looks staged and faked.

    Also, what is the purpose of the pic of a bookstore? All this is wasted space. I suggest a stronger opening, with the testimonials up higher, above the fold, and make them readable. It is hard to tell one testy from the next. How about a space between names or names in bold or italics, something to make them easier to read?

    You have some great bullet points. They should also be up higher. All that stuff about imagine this and imagine that...writer's already have a these things in mind.

    Please consider a much shorter promotion to test against this very LONG letter. Make the offer up higher, then give them a reason to read more to make a decision.

    The good news it is selling and has been. Why not ask your customers WHY they bought it originally? Do a survey and maybe there are a few KEY points which helped them make the decision to BUY.

    I felt like I read a NOVEL by the time I got done with the page. Take a couple of bullet points and expand by actually giving a page from the book?

    The thing is, you need to test against this, you KNOW what this one is doing, but try something a little different...a shorter page, more direct, here is what you want...and here is how to get it.

    I think the best selling elements in the page are buried and hidden. Good luck to you and as always, I reserve the right to be totally full of hot air (or something much worse).

    If you do create a shorter version, do an A/B split test one against the other. My honest opinion, it may be too much, too boring to keep potential customers around long enough to make a decision.

    gjabiz
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    • Profile picture of the author andewags
      gjabiz, thanks bunches! You gave me a lot of great ideas. I appreciate the feedback very much.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    Originally Posted by andewags View Post

    I sell an e-book/audio package (Novel Writing Made Easy--link in my signature) teaching writers to plan and write a novel, and it's been selling for 3 years, and doing about $500 a month on autopilot--truly, I've done nothing. I thought if I updated it and added bonuses and such, I could improve sales, and so far, it's been the opposite. I'm converting at about 1/4 percent, if that. I tried lowering the price for 10 days and that didn't help.

    I'd be SO grateful to receive feedback on why you think the site isn't converting.

    Thanks so much.

    Ande
    Sounds like you just need to sell something higher ticket on the backend... like coaching the novel writer or holding online webinar-based workshops at like $497 a pop.

    You may already... just a thought though.

    I don't see any link anywhere, or else I'd try to give you some helpful feedback.
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    • Profile picture of the author andewags
      Thanks, Jason. The link is in my original signature line because I can't yet put links in my posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonParker
    Wait... I found it...

    Took a quick look and it actually appears pretty freaking awesome.

    Think you'd increase conversions by around 50% or so if you use Honest EOnline and Trust Guard buttons to build the ultimate confidence in ordering.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Dare to be a great salespage writer. This one is weak. Way too many bullets - for starters. Your head could be a lot better. Establish your credibility early. You have -


    Dare to be a great novelist...
    "Discover the Published Authors' Insider Secrets of Writing a Novel That WILL Sell"
    Here's a step-by-step plan that will turn you into a PUBLISHED NOVELIST. The Novel Writing Made Easy System contains everything you need to know about planning and writing a novel that will land you that book contract you've been dreaming about.




    Why not something like


    "Best-selling author shows you how to write a 500 page novel in just 60 days"


    BTW - this is terrible - "12. And last, but NOT lease"


    The term is "Last but not least" and you should take it out the back and shoot it.




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    • Profile picture of the author andewags
      Thanks, Mal! I'm blushing--you caught me in cliches and typos. I'll fix it. I appreciate your help big time.
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  • Profile picture of the author M_Jones
    What will you do with all the extra money after your book becomes a best seller?




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  • Profile picture of the author andrewfashion
    Not bad, I like it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
    Ande,

    From your salespage:

    I thought because I had a novel idea and I had experience writing, I could read a few books and put together a novel. But writing a novel isn’t like any other kind of writing. If you don’t know exactly how all the components of a good novel fit together, writing a book is like juggling ten flaming torches while balancing a tarantula on your nose.
    Just replace "novel" with "copy".

    Your page needs a complete overhaul.

    The headline's uninspiring, your opening's boring, you don't try to establish credibility until after the first sales link, where's the front cover of your books, where's the boasts about your author status?

    You need to either seriously study copy or hire a professional.
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    Andrew Gould

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