My first product, my first sales page... please critique.

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I'll try to keep this short.

I'm fairly new to IM. Started in Jan/2010. I'm able to get sales, build lists, etc... I think I am ready for the next step. I am making my own product. The website is built, and its pending within ClickBank...

But I'm horrid at writing. I'm not overly creative or sensitive - when I try to use emotional appeal... it just sounds forced.

Do any of you have any suggestion for my sales page? Any help would be much appreciated :S

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  • Profile picture of the author wcmylife
    Hey,

    There's way to many things to say about your sales page because it's really not a sales page - a proper one that is. You have too many distractions, your copy is poor, you have a headline which is NOT a headline and I agree with you that you are not the best when it comes to writing

    Get someone who can do it for you. If you have a budget, mention it as it will filter out who can and who cannot work with you.

    Hope it helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonblake10
      Originally Posted by wcmylife View Post

      Hey,

      There's way to many things to say about your sales page because it's really not a sales page - a proper one that is. You have too many distractions, your copy is poor, you have a headline which is NOT a headline and I agree with you that you are not the best when it comes to writing

      Get someone who can do it for you. If you have a budget, mention it as it will filter out who can and who cannot work with you.

      Hope it helps.
      I think I have to read too much to figure out what the site is about :-(
      The "Only the best" title tells me nothing about that the site offers. Don't get discouraged.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    I don't know what that is... but it isn't a sales page.

    You've got two options:

    Buy a lot of books on copywriting (check out the sticky), study your ass off for a year or two and then try again...

    ...or hire a pro.

    Having your own product means you need to have great copy, a great offer, and a killer sales funnel. You also need to produce a little traffic to test it yourself and build yourself as an authority (which makes it easier for affiliates to get you sales).

    At the moment you don't really have any of these, and quite frankly I don't think you're quite ready to do your own products yet.

    But if you're hell-bent you need to spend some decent money on a pro who can advise you and who has experience with successful launches and products - which means you're more than likely looking at AT LEAST a few thousand bucks.

    If you can't afford that, you probably shouldn't be releasing an IM product yet - it's a very competitive industry and proof is important.

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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    It lacks punch, and worse, it lacks credibility. You talk about interviews or info that people won't get anywhere else. Yawn... Not buying it. You also seem to like to write in the passive voice. When you do that you eviscerate your copy. Here's a brief example:

    Active: Jack hit the ball out of the park with a fierce swing.
    Passive: The ball was hit out of the park by Jack with a fierce swing.

    Which one better conveys action? Which is more exciting? When you're writing to convince people to do something you need to get them in the picture, the story, the mood... whatever, make it real. More often than not you do that in the active voice.

    What you have isn't bad. Think of it as a beginning. Stop affirming that you're a horrid writer (you get what you affirm). Start telling yourself that you're a good writer and getting better. Then read the kind of stuff you want to write. After you've read it, give yourself an assignment and follow through.

    For example, write something designed to evoke a particular emotion. Forget sales for a moment and just try to write something to bring someone joy or longing or tears or whatever. And be honest. Anyone can bring another to tears by killing puppies. Do it with style and class. Become a student of human behavior. Recognize why people do the things they do.

    Then close the loop by emulating those kinds of triggers or 'causes' (causes as in cause and effect) in your writing. Keep a writing journal. Put down your thoughts, write spontaneously about whatever comes to mind in your journal. It's cool to keep a journal because it helps to measure your progress.

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author abednego
    Please, don't hold back any criticism. I really appreciate all the feedback I'm receiving. As for the "its not REALLY a sales page" - are the distractions due to the stuff outside of the letter?

    The direct link that I would be using for affiliates to promote is the following:

    IMOffline Gives You The Best - (Internet Marketing) Offline

    Why is the red text not a header?
    Does using a colored template lower conversions?
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    • Profile picture of the author McBrett
      @abednego First of all congratulations on the creation of your own product. That alone is a major accomplishment.

      OK, Critique time: One thing I always look for is an email opt-in box that is placed above the fold.

      This will allow you to capture visitors that enter through your website and hit them up with a classic auto-responder sequence in the future.

      Give them a reason to join to... This would probably be a free bonus of some sort. In your case, maybe one free newsletter.

      The other point I would make is to make your font size bigger. It doesn't need to be too huge, but maybe bump it up to size 13 font. It makes it easier for people to read... especially if they're on a handheld device of some sort.

      Good luck on the product launch.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kaushik Kasi
    You might want to add a video salesletter is writing is not your thing. It is much easier and really captures your watcher's attention. It is also easier to make the page..
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    Honestly I was not even sure i was on the right page. It seems like a quick blog post about some interviews?...not sure though. It is not a true sales page.

    The advice rendered by others here is correct, imo.
    You really need to start fresh and develop your primary benefits about these interviews.
    You need a strong list of benefits and much more information to sell this subscription.

    I'd try to get some copy help or be prepared to invest in considerable study and practice to get any results. IM is one of the toughest niches to succeed in, particularly as an advisor.
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  • Profile picture of the author ASCW
    When I click that link and I look at the site without scrolling or doing anything. I have no idea what's going on, or why I should stay.

    This is a huge problem. The copy itself is weak, everywhere. As someone said you have a headline that isn't a headline. Also you need to provide free interviews, possibly as a bonus to get them on your list or something. Why am I going to pay a monthly fee for mysterious interviews. If I know they're good interviews with quality information and help me out, maybe I'd be willing to pay a monthly fee.

    As it stands now you give me no reason to give YOU... MY money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Seo_Oz
      First thing it is not really a sales page.A good course to buy to learn copy writing is Killer CopyWriting Course by Mal Emery.This is a great course to learn from.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hagbard Jones
    I think a good first step for you, if you intend to edit on your own, would be to compare and contrast your site -- layout, headline, style, graphics, offer, etc. -- to IM membership sites you know are converting and impressing IM'ers.

    If you check over in the IM Product Reviews sub-forum, here at WF, there's a thread called "Best IM Membership Site You've Joined?" It's got tons of recommendations, and they pretty much all have very effective sales pages. I'll bet you can find one to use as inspiration if you're willing to sink in and make the change on your own.

    Linky, let's see...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/internet...ve-joined.html
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  • Profile picture of the author mori22
    i would suggest that you hire a pro on odesk or somewhere else.

    also - i would highly recommend you redesign the lading page.

    good luck!!

    mori
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  • Profile picture of the author Warren.Richards
    Hey,
    I'm confused. Is it a landing page or a blog. You don't want your audience to get confused, do you?.
    Now please help yourself and follow groud rules while writing a copy for first time rather than trying something innovative to stand out of the crowd.

    Try reading some books before you write or if you are in hurry send some bucks and hire a pro.

    Try some Dan Kennedy stuff and even Maria Veloso's book, Web Copy That Sells is good.
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  • Well done for getting your first product out there man, It is a great start. just stay focused and keep learning.

    You need a lot of work to get your sales page to convert well, i almost clicked off straight away.
    No headline to grab my attention
    To many links, people may click on to another page.
    I never use opt ins on a sales letter.
    Your page layout needs to be redesigned, so it is completely different from the rest of the sites. go to click bank and look at other sales pages. get a copywriter to write you a sales letter.
    You can get a sales page layout completely customized for you for like $50 that will convert 10 times more (depending on your product and sales letter) check out the warriors for hire section.

    Good luck man...
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    • Profile picture of the author VyctorB_10
      hey bro, Abednego..

      your page, it doesn't gell with us the reader on what EXACTLY are you trying to sell? Why should we care? What's in it for us? What would that benefit us, joining your club? why should we commit in joining for life or long term? why should we quit the 1st second we join? What is so ATTRACTIVE OR SPELL_BINDING ABOUT YOUR SECT, That would drive us to INSTANT MILLIONAIRE OR 'THE BROTHERHOOD' like Status, with all the Past Presidents?


      Also in addition to it doesn't gell, it simply doesn't sell... it appears as though you are giving us a friendly hand wave into your fan-club treehouse, and we don't have a single clue what's going on??? it's it a free-4-all party? it is a bachelor genie with in cake strip show? is it a backhouse BBQ steak on grill and beer so we can vent all about couch potatoe stay-at-home-moms Boys night out? or what's in it for the buyer?


      do you feel what i'm conveying here? hope this helps in a positive way...





      But IM offline market club does have a nice exciting ring to that gateway...




      of opportunities...




      to your success,




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  • Profile picture of the author seoweb2000
    I would do the following. ( I am not a copywriter)
    - you need a new headline, something that draws attention.

    -clean up the top content and opt-in or consider removing the opt-in completely because potential affiliates might not like seeing an opt in box.

    -Move the headline up, above the fold.

    - Get rid of the blue subheads, no offense, they hurt my eyes.

    - add testimonies from previous users or people that you have
    helped out. Even some who knows you can can say you an awesome imer. Insert early into the copy. Do video if you can, audio is next, and if you must do text add a picture of the person with their name.

    - flow and logical connections ( I have this same problem in my writing)

    - Where's your guarantee. Have a strong 60-day no question ask guarantee. Give it a name and make it kicka@@ and have it on a blue certificate background.

    - Get a theme that does not have a footer link, this looks like a free theme. You can buy a premium theme or have one made for like $35.

    - Get rid of your wp meta login links.

    - Draw more attention to your sample interview, I didn't even know it was there until I look at it a second time around.

    -And maybe use a clip where he is talking about something awesome, remember your prospects will be listen to this audio and if it sound like two guys are having a conversion with laughter, so what.. is what they will say, but if they listen to list and they are like "wow, this content kicka@@, I am going to sign up"

    You should definite invest in a copywriting course or some copy coaching. Raydal has one that I am thinking about signing up with . Here's the link http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...e-payment.html

    He was a free hr long video where he reviews one of his student's copy. I learned a lot from that video. Here's the link to that Created with Camtasia Studio 5

    Disclaimer: I am by no way affiliated with him, I only discovered his WSO a fews days ago and was quite impressed.

    PS. Good luck with your project.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Bray
    It's good that you've made a product,
    and had the courage to interview
    some knowledgeable people.

    The problems that I see with your
    landing page are as follows:


    Nobody cares about your
    membership card, and if they
    will then they need convincing,
    so you've introduced it far too
    early in the page.

    The space it takes up would be
    better used as an opt in box
    for two reasons:

    a) It's above the fold
    b) people expect it to be
    there.

    I'd put your video above the
    fold too, where 'Only The Best'
    is currently located.

    'Read more' shouldn't take
    me to a sales form, it should
    take me to some compelling
    copy where I can read more
    about your product.

    One problem you have is your
    market. To sell into this market
    your page needs to be first-rate.

    Your pages always need to be first
    rate, I know, but you could afford
    to be a little more lax were you
    selling subscriptions to a site about
    a hobby such as garden railways,
    or training sheepdogs, rather
    than a site about 'success'.

    A success site needs to look
    as if it's successful, but it
    can still be simple.

    For example 'The Gary Halbert
    Letter
    ' is a very s i m p l e site
    from the technical standpoint,
    the writing on it is something
    else!

    What do you mean when you
    write: "

    The People Who Subscribe Here
    Will End Up With Your Money?


    I'm not sure this should be
    a heading at all?

    Maybe something like:

    Subscribe to IM-Offline Marketing
    Today And Start Making Money


    might be better?

    If you had some statistics you would
    do better by stating:

    67% of IM-Offline Marketing Subscribers
    Earned $100,000 In Their First Year


    Of course those figures have to be true
    if you're going to publish them.

    There are those who charge thousands
    of dollars for memberships so in one
    sense your site seems good value. On
    the other hand $37.00 a month for many
    is still a substantial chunk of change.

    I think therefore you might improve your
    site by:

    a) Being clearer in your mind who your potential
    customers are?

    b) Stating more clearly what you are offering
    and why they need it.

    c) Using some stronger triggers than simply
    making money. (If you simply want to appeal
    to people who want money I suggest you
    have some pictures of money on your page).

    For this to convert you will need to make
    substantial changes, regardless of the
    amount of traffic you have, or the quality
    of your product.

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  • Profile picture of the author abednego
    Thanks for everyone's input.

    I appreciate all the honest and constructive feedback.

    The direct link to my sales page is as follows:
    An Opportunity for People With a Desire to Succeed… - (Internet Marketing) Offline

    Will do some tweaking with my headlines.
    Also have a slightly different copy on my WSO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Topgunb
    Hi,

    To say it is a fixer upper is an understatement. I am prepared to assist you.

    Just send me an email to swdcomputers@gmail.com

    The good news is ---- It can be a great WINNER!

    Hang in there man
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  • Profile picture of the author perfectlovehere
    Originally Posted by abednego View Post

    I'll try to keep this short.

    I'm fairly new to IM. Started in Jan/2010. I'm able to get sales, build lists, etc... I think I am ready for the next step. I am making my own product. The website is built, and its pending within ClickBank...

    But I'm horrid at writing. I'm not overly creative or sensitive - when I try to use emotional appeal... it just sounds forced.

    Do any of you have any suggestion for my sales page? Any help would be much appreciated :S

    (Internet Marketing) Offline - Interviewing The World's Best Marketers
    Try to make the page all one length without that top header image. It seems to get in the way. You also want to focus on bulleted lists of the benefits of your product.
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  • abedingo,
    I like the video. I am still newish, and can tell you that having the "sale page" link to the blog pages, which leads to your free 30 page report, got me on your list, yet was a bit difficult to go to pages for "list sign-up" I posted a thank you on your blog for the report.. and takes me away from the "Product promotion". I have to say

    I guess, from what I read, and looked at on "guru" sites, is the Product needs to be "Clearly explained" with benefits. This or that feature is great, but sell the benefit is how I learned. I get timely info from top marketers, but how does that benefit me, by the time I read through the "public" pages, I think the "read more" button needs more content to compel visitors that the "paid" content is valued.


    The "list sign up" for the offer, should "be easily found" with top of fold, or really attract some how (pop up, act now, limited time type "styling").

    I look forward to looking at your "follow up" emails.

    I do not like the color or font or something, it seems difficult to read, you might want to change some formatting.

    I hope this helps from a "newb's" perspective.
    By reviewing your site, and comparing and contrasting with sites I signed up for, or ordered products, it helps me understand what a site needs to be a success and convert visitors to sales.
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  • Profile picture of the author sparckyz
    I like the site design, but not sure it's a sales page
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  • Profile picture of the author lagoonboy
    Don't forget the disclaimer. A beautifully crafted one can be found on the "bullet proof bets" website at:

    www (dot) bulletproofbets (dot) com (slash) disclaimer (dot) html

    Effectively you comprehensively disavow that your product will do any of the things you have claimed in the sales letter.

    This gives you enormous freedom to claim absolutely anything in the sales letter, as the disclaimer warns that the claims of the sales letter should not be thought accurate; or authentic; or ever reproducible by anyone anytime soon.

    Brilliant, eh?

    [Crazy rules on this forum - because I'm completely new here and this is my first post, I'm not allowed to include a link in this post - hence the clumsy link format above. Still, I guess all these hoops I have to jump through will eventually prove I am a real internet marketer. Rather than hindrances, they should be seen as markers through the "rites of passage" to IM masterhood - I guess ].
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  • Profile picture of the author jaspast666
    i say outsource it, you have the money because it wont cost that much and you have had success with affiliate marketing. outsource the stuff that you cant do, and maximize on the stuff that you can.
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