Please review. Newish and trying

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I think this page is almost good enough to promote.
It is a "pre sell" page for "law of attraction" affiliate products.
http://www.millionaireslife.com

I have been learning and applying. I know just keep learning and doing. I need a lot of work, but this might be a starting point. Give it a quick look and some feedback. (help fulfill the "dream" )

Please be Harsh, truthful, and pick my page apart, so I can make my next page(s) better. any suggestions are appreciated.

If you have some good products with conscionable sales. I would love to be "mentored" and work on a promotion page(s) to make sales of your product(s), on a "work for mentoring" type situation.

Respectfully,
Mr. Millionaires Dream
AKA That person with a Dream.
#newish #review
  • Profile picture of the author Topgunb
    Hi,

    The headline neads a serious fix.

    Grammar must be fixed.

    Badly written

    It has potential, but sentences are to long........ boring

    I am prepared to assist you to fix it.

    email me swdcomputers@gmail.com

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  • Profile picture of the author wcmylife
    You sure need to do a lot of work on this page or a better idea might be to scrap it and get someone to do it for you...
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  • Profile picture of the author we_got_tops
    It does seem like a concept that could be compelling, but yeah, it does need work. "to bring your millionaires life" is awkwardly worded in the title. The first sentence is tough to get through. I think it gets a bit better as you go on, but you need to work more on hooking them from the beginning.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    It's a train wreck so it's hard to know where to start. But ditch "Learn" for starters. Use "discover".
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    • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
      Mr. Millionaires Dream,

      Unfortunately, the letter should be scrapped. Every single word.

      (How's that for harsh? )

      Not to rub it in, but the design is beyond atrocious. For instance, putting a black line between your red headline and the body copy is like screaming to your visitor to "STOP READING."

      If you knew your market better, you absolutely would not write a letter like this.

      And lastly, video, video, video. Where is it?

      While I admire your initiative, it's clear the person writing this is not a millionaire. Not that they have to be, but the page lacks believability and credibility in all respects.

      - Rick Duris

      PS: I know what I said was harsh, and I can only speak for myself, but if I'm working on a major project, once I step back from my work and I look at it objectively, I have no problems hitting the delete key. I'll rewrite that piece three, four or more times until I get it right.

      So please, don't take what I say personally.
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  • Profile picture of the author Summer1
    Well, it has clean layout, but the font needs changes. Just like the previous poster said.

    Good luck with your new site.
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    • Profile picture of the author shayman
      Originally Posted by Summer1 View Post

      Well, it has clean layout
      Sorry, this is not a layout, it's just sentences strung together done in some kind of horrible code generator.

      If you want to do your own website then the easiest way would be to find some hosting where you can install Wordpress, install a nice theme (there are millions out there) and then at least you will have something half decent to start with.

      This doesn't exactly sell the promise of a 'millionaires life' to me. More 'down and out' I'm afraid.

      Sorry Not being harsh just truthfull!
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      • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
        Unfortunately, it's still beyond awful. For lots of strategic, tactical and technical reasons.

        Let me give you the strategic ones now:

        1. The graphics design absolutely does not portray a millionaire's life. It's anemic.

        2. The copy is so abstract, people will ignore. For instance, "Agree with your Dreams." WTF does that mean?

        3. Your call to action is DOA. "For additional information about using the Law of attraction to Attract a Millionaires Life contact Newsletter@MillionairesLife.com for our Weely Inspirational quotes, interesting information, entertaining links and bookmarks, and a few offers (at the bottom)."

        YOU SAY NOTHING ABOUT PEOPLE ACTUALLY MAKING MONEY!

        Interesting information? Entertaining links and bookmarks? A few offers? (Ah, there's the catch!)

        Bottom line: Your offer is far from irresistible, even if it IS free.

        I hate to be so blunt, but if you're really committed to this endeavor, hire a copywriter versed in making money and business opportunity.

        - Rick Duris
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  • Thank you all for your critique .

    This page was not intended to be a keeper, just part of the learning process.
    The changes will be made, as recommended (change headline, shorten sentences, edit wording, add video.

    I will also create a "new page" per recommended "scrap it". (I kind of thought it would need to be scraped).

    I will try with a few different fonts, thanks.
    thanks I will "rewrite" and again and again (I am good at getting up after getting knocked down , I was still looking into what market would be best, and I am not a millionaire, but I am on my way.
    thanks for the suggestions.

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  • Profile picture of the author J. Barry Mandel
    The real question is: How soon do you want to launch?

    If this product is ready to go and you want to start to try make your dreams a reality and earn money with it then get rid of it and hire a copywriter to write it for you

    If you want to play around with writing the copy and have time on your hands because the product is not ready to go then this is a good exercise for you to learn about copywriting.


    Best of Luck,

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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Bray
    Here's a quick question. Do
    you enjoy writing webpages,
    or would you prefer to be
    developing delivering and
    profiting from your product?


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  • Stephen and forum,
    To be honest, Yes and no. I do enjoy parts of web design, and I enjoy learning. I am still learning about what can be done, and how to do it, as far as (website design) I need to build more engagement and emotion. I think while I am in full time school, the time issue is most difficult I have to stay diligent and keep learning and trying, and doing, and learning and failing and doing, and planning.
    I have spent a lot of time and effort learning about business, and now E-business. I know the site, process, product, service, and relationship is very important.
    I am a bit embarrassed:confused: because I am not sure where I should start. From what I have learned about IM, it is good to have a product, yet one needs the ability to develop interesting pages and content. I was thinking I would build some skills while promoting affiliate products.
    I have an idea, which will require a solid back end, and a powerful marketing funnel. I think developing an idea into a useful product/Service is most important. Then understanding the competition and market.

    The way I figure it, I do not want to start exposing, and developing the real purpose of my "Millionaires Dream" until I can build at least some "online success". I am not in need of money for living, but I do not want to invest other money in a project. I can re-invest 100% of my online profits as I have done building my other business. I just need to keep learning until I have a good sense of what I need, and who is available to work on the project, and how my concept is facilitated by technology.(call it research)

    I guess I really want to develop products, and marketing ideas, but I really need a professional team to develop things the way I want everything (my vision).

    Just like a carpenter needs a hammer, saws, ladders, drills, sanders, and a variety of other tools, so does a "web builder" need web building tools, like graphics, scripts, templates, forms, services, etc.... and they have to know how to use them efficiently. I have been building my understanding and ability, so I can effectively develop and direct a team to build my E-business concept. (kind of like a home owner looks at different companies for engineering, design, concrete, pluming, or "general contractor") (how smart would it be to take my idea, and start hiring people to do this and that without a plan, and getting to know the aptitudes and style of the team members,or the ability and limitation of technology.

    And Justin, No I do not have my own product *yet, only affiliate ones to promote, and that is why I am studying Online business, and marketing, to figure out how to develop my concept into a viable business, and to understand the best marketing techniques. I know people are making big bucks selling information, memberships, affiliate products etc.. and that is awesome. And now I know I do want to develop a product, because if the product is good and sells, there are many people who will make money marketing it.

    I guess I know what I want, I am kind of just putting my feelers out to find some people(s) who might be have the technical knowledge, marketing ability, design excellence, writing talent, and most of all the passionate dream to make something Incredible. Something that will benefit many people in many ways, and has the potential for incredible profits for the founding members.

    So I guess, for all intensive purposes, I am not really looking to be a web builder, but I need to know what is available so I can have professionals build my site like I want it. (like a home owner does not own or know how to use carpentry tools, but wants to look at every finish, carpet, tile, fixtures, designs, electrical options, ETC..., but in the end does not build the home).

    Thanks again for your review and questions, it has made me think about things a bit different.

    I have made some changes, and tried a few different design "templates".
    I will be making a few short videos, and putting together some graphics, or pictures, and I will post my progress when I have time this week. Then when I get something worth promoting, I will focus on traffic and conversions. After the first few sales (and war chest for my concept), I plan on actively recruiting the first team members (or hiring).

    Respectfully

    Mr. A Millionaires Dream
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  • Profile picture of the author Al Robinson
    I think one of the biggest problems is that is reads like a lecture rather than a sales letter. Try to be more focused. You have very little time to grab your prospects attention. Don't make them work to figure out what your product is. Keep at it and good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author topsytoppy
    I second Al Robinson. You should make it a little bit simple. There is nothing to be serious about when you are trying to sell a product. Besides, the person already came there to buy; why make it any hard?
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianDowns
    I'll admit that I don't have the skills to write killer copy, but my brain hurts from trying to read that... :s
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    • Brian, Rick, Shayman, Al, Topsy, and everyone,

      Thanks a lot for the feedback. i went over some information i was reading, and have simplified the page and added a video. I am not ready to release a product because i want a catchy topic first.

      Here is my next attempt at a page. REVIEW

      The product is going to be Video (of my talking dog) with Screen Shots for the basic set up, and deployment of a Web site and some "script branding" tips.

      So far I have been able to install a store with down loadable products and use some graphics to brand Scripts.

      I know I need's a lot of work.
      Please give me feedback, I am not afraid of changing, or totally reworking everything, over and over again, until I have something I can spend time promoting. (and feel ok about a public launch)
      Thanks again Warrior Forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author ARSuarez
    You know, I prepared a long, thorough post before this.

    It was full of details, critiques, etc. But then I realized, "No, that won't work."

    So instead, I am going to say this: take the dog video down.

    Here's the thing: the dog/pet angle... really only works in a sequence. I wouldn't use it on a cold prospect as the first letter.

    Also, what are you selling here exactly? The copy doesn't really explain... anything. It goes in circles.

    Here is what I recommend doing: study several sales letters. Pick up stuff from Brian Keith Voiles, Gary Halbert, etc. Look at the organic flow of the letters - how they take time to explain the offer, build desire, etc.

    Then, I want you to sit down with a pen and yellow legal pad. Plan out what you want your letter to communicate. ESPECIALLY communicate what it is your selling to them.

    Because insofar as the what has been written is concerned, everything kind of... goes in circles.

    Anyway... listen. I don't want to say all this being rude or insensitive. But when I was first learning to write copy... stuff like harsh criticism (constructive criticism) was a huge benefit.

    Someone being "nice" or helping to delude you will not put money in your bank account to feed your kids or pay the mortgage.

    By the way, have you read books on copywriting?

    I strongly recommend you read Claude Hopkins' "Scientific Advertising." You can find it for free just about anywhere online, or head over to Scientific Advertising... and 2 Special Bonuses. $10 for the .pdf.

    If you prefer hardcopy, like me, go to Amazon. Either way, I really think you need to spend some intimate time with that book.

    To your success,

    Angel
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    • emmedi and ARSuarez, thank you for the feedback and constructive criticism. I know I need lots of work (that newish feeling). I appreciate your honesty and not holding back exposing my many issues.

      I felt some accomplishment making and posting a video (Yes I am that newish). I am comfortable making mistakes as my learning process. I have time next week to read the book you recommend, and look at some sales letters to model my copy around.

      I will try again when I complete the reading and "letter study" recommended, then I will post a different site. Focused on something to sell. (I guess for now, I am still learning the technical and "personal" parts of Internet marketing, but Slowly I will learn, and apply what I learn.

      Thanks again for the honest feedback.

      Originally Posted by ARSuarez View Post

      You know, I prepared a long, thorough post before this.

      It was full of details, critiques, etc. But then I realized, "No, that won't work."

      So instead, I am going to say this: take the dog video down.

      Here's the thing: the dog/pet angle... really only works in a sequence. I wouldn't use it on a cold prospect as the first letter.

      Also, what are you selling here exactly? The copy doesn't really explain... anything. It goes in circles.

      Here is what I recommend doing: study several sales letters. Pick up stuff from Brian Keith Voiles, Gary Halbert, etc. Look at the organic flow of the letters - how they take time to explain the offer, build desire, etc.

      Then, I want you to sit down with a pen and yellow legal pad. Plan out what you want your letter to communicate. ESPECIALLY communicate what it is your selling to them.

      Because insofar as the what has been written is concerned, everything kind of... goes in circles.

      Anyway... listen. I don't want to say all this being rude or insensitive. But when I was first learning to write copy... stuff like harsh criticism (constructive criticism) was a huge benefit.

      Someone being "nice" or helping to delude you will not put money in your bank account to feed your kids or pay the mortgage.

      By the way, have you read books on copywriting?

      I strongly recommend you read Claude Hopkins' "Scientific Advertising." You can find it for free just about anywhere online, or head over to Scientific Advertising... and 2 Special Bonuses. $10 for the .pdf.

      If you prefer hardcopy, like me, go to Amazon. Either way, I really think you need to spend some intimate time with that book.

      To your success,

      Angel
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  • Profile picture of the author emmedi
    I thought it didn't work with Chrome, but I checked it with Firefox as well.

    There is no salesletter!

    Just a video and some centered paragraphs (never use centered for anything different than a title or a grave).

    If you want to do it yourself... steal. Find a professional salesletter that you like and save it on your computer. Then open it with your HTML editor and while keeping the structure and the layout add your own text.

    The problem with the text I have seen is that it's written without much copywriting skills. They can be learned but they are needed.

    Again, if you want to learn and do it yourself copy the best, and adapt to your need. Anyone has studied others and copied-adapted, so you can do it too.

    HOWEVER...

    if you have a business it's far better that you pay some professionals to make your salesletter. Writing copy, making webpages are skills hard enough to learn and master without being also the one who runs the business.
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  • Ok how does this one look?

    When it looks good, I am going to do some off line advertising.

    No squeeze for email, Not that far along yet, and the linked site has follow up system.
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    • Profile picture of the author Prosechild
      Hi MillionairesDream,

      My two cents: your copy is still too abstract.

      Who is the millionaire that gave the dog the plan? How does a dog become a millionaire? (I'm not a pet person...)

      You state that half the profits ($1 each video, correct?) will help the 'needy'. What charity/charities are you supporting? Do you have a goal of how much you want to raise?

      You essentially write two sentences and ask the buyer to buy now at your store. That's not even approaching being persuasive, unless this is part of a launch sequence and this is the final page...

      Now I like that you state you will provide screen shots, you should probably include one on this page so that your reader believes you.

      "If you don't got 99 cents for a Millionaires Plan with Two Cents (the dog) video, that's OK. I will send you all the information right to you."

      So is the video 99 cents or free?? Do you want your prospects to buy videos or sign up for your newsletter? Because if they click this link (why not include an opt-in form right on the page?) and sign up for your newsletter, they're probably not going to come back and buy videos.

      There's also no urgency here. Why buy at all? Even at a dollar (or 99 cents... or free, I think?) I don't really see where the value is. Why should I buy into this? Especially when I can just sign up for your newsletter... maybe I'll get around to buying at some point.

      Now I haven't been writing copy a long time. My questions were from the standpoint of a skeptical buyer, not necessarily a copywriter.
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