How Claude Hopkins Lived To 144 Years

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Claude Hopkins (1866 - )

Recently in a great copywriting discussion on this forum we brought up Claude Hopkins. This stirred me to reopen his 2 most famous works, especially "My Life In Advertising."

After reading I've come to the conclusion that Claude Hopkins is very much still alive!

He was born in 1866, a year after the Civil war ended, and that would make him 144 years old today. That's QUITE a feat.

Here's why I think that.


This offer seems so reminiscent of the offers Hopkins describes in "My Life In Advertising" that I think he must have created it himself

Maybe not. But his advice and methods, at least, live on.

I've been hearing direct response radio ads for The Total Transformation constantly on my radio for months.

They've been making an offer to give their program away "free" to 1,000 people with no forced continuity. (You do have to offer up one payment first, and do homework to qualify for the free program.)

It's an offer where the focus is on service rather than asking for the sale... even though 99% of customers will probably end up paying.

Throughout "My Life In Advertising" Hopkins talks of offering service rather than asking for the sale.

That's because selling creates resistance. Service creates loyal customers.

Here are two quotes from the book that make the point. And a point that I think is too often ignored.

"The way to sell goods is to sell them. The way to do that is to sample and demonstrate, and the more attractive you can make your demonstration the better it will be for you" Chapter 5

"I never ask people to buy. I rarely even say that my goods are sold by dealers, I seldom quote a price. The ads all offer service, perhaps a free sample or a free package. They sound altruistic." Chapter 6

Cheers,
Stephen Dean
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  • Profile picture of the author David Babineau
    Great example, Stephen. "My Life In Advertising" is an awesome book - I should pick it up again, too.

    Cheers,
    Dave
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    • Profile picture of the author Irish Intuition
      I'm curious as to how he would think now. It's safe to say
      he would have evolved into something else.

      I do think his books are a must read and much of it is still very
      relevant today.
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      • Profile picture of the author Stephen Dean
        Originally Posted by IM Viper View Post

        I'm curious as to how he would think now. It's safe to say
        he would have evolved into something else.

        I do think his books are a must read and much of it is still very
        relevant today.
        Maybe. But probably more on a micro level than macro, right?

        The details will evolve as markets mature and trends come and go. But I think for a "big picture" idea, selling repels and service sells is constant.

        It's what Hopkins was preaching then. And very similar to Gary Vaynerchuk's new book, "The Thank You Economy."

        Cheers,
        Stephen Dean
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        • Profile picture of the author Bill Jeffels
          Hopkins book is amazing.

          In my opinion you have to read it more then one time to consume all of his intelligence in the advertising field.

          Definitely stands the test of time.

          Best,


          Bill Jeffels



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          • Profile picture of the author JohnB23
            Funny, I was reading My Life in Advertising tonight.

            I think there is so much wisdom packed into this book, and the nuances of marketing success are so small (esp to newbies), the book and Hopkins fly over peoples heads. Some of the quotes in the book are so profound, like.."the principles laid out in this book are as enduring as the Alps". Do people even understand the magnitude of that?

            He also talks about his Scotch ancestry. I think modern marketing (and internet marketing) has gotten so virtual, I don't think they understand the qualities that made someone great 50 or 100 years ago. It's just "he did this". Or, "He did that". Or, "he invented that". But how? Where did it come from?

            Think of Robert Allen's famous newspaper ads. "Send me to any city in america. Take away my keys. Take away my wallet. Give me 72 hours in a strange city, and I can buy 4 properties no money down. And I'll show you how to do the same." And then in Hopkins..."nothing is as powerful as a dramatic demonstration". Or, "no words can make up for one powerful demonstration".

            Hopkins makes a lot of good observations about street sellers. And how college doesn't teach you anything. The book also gives you more background about different concepts you here about. Like, "tell the truth". Its valuable because its so rare. My life in advertising gives more background and depth to pre emptive advertising, telling the truth, etc.
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            • Profile picture of the author JohnB23
              For advanced students of Hopkins,

              -Go through "My life in advertising" and highlight his successes. He worked with a meat packing company, pepsodent toothpaste. Have you ever heard of film on teeth? He coined that word. It was called something else, but he called it film. To sell the benefits the toothpaste could give you.

              Esp highlight the examples where he was ridiculed, people thought it wouldn't work. In this internet age, everyone jumps aboard the same thing. You have to learn why something works. My life in advertising is as much about how to gain advantage in business, as it is specific marketing and advertising advice. He looked for what was not being done.

              Vastly different than this internet age, where everyone is doing the same thing (and they wonder why they aren't getting any results).

              There's so many awesome quotes in the book, like "he made a selfish offer to selfish people, and of course it wouldn't work". That's pretty profound. These are profound statements that are like 20 years in the making. It took 20 years of working 16 hours a day to come up with it, and it's right there. And, "I've never seen anything more ridiculous than gray haired boards of directors deciding what housewives want". Again, profound. That's what seperates the average ($50 k a year earner) from a millionaire.

              Another quote,

              "A salesman's mistake may cost little. An advertisers mistake may cost a thousand times that much. So be more cautious, more exacting."

              Do people even understand this? A salesman's mistake would cost a little. You can quickly correct it. The average person doesn't treat their advertising the way they would a thousand salesman. No wonder most advertising doesn't work. Hopkins was waaaaaay ahead of his time.
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            • Profile picture of the author Greg guitar
              Originally Posted by JohnB23 View Post


              Hopkins makes a lot of good observations about street sellers. And how college doesn't teach you anything.

              Really? I don't dispute that he is one of the masters, and his book is on my reading list, but did he really say "college doesn't teach you anything?" Now, I'm aware that a big chunk of a given person's education might be wasted, never recalled-never used-and is pretty expensive for something that's never used.

              However, if I get in a car accident, I sure hope I don't get stuck with a surgeon who didn't bother getting a degree. The next time I fly, I'm hoping the plane was designed by people with real engineering degrees, electronics degrees, etc.

              Now as for marketing, I would much rather consult with Dan Kennedy, who has no degree, than the MBAs he likes to poke fun of. I also know there are bad teachers/professors, like there are bad examples in any profession. But to say that college doesn't teach you anything is just beyond ridiculous, and a real insult to many brilliant, talented people who dedicate themselves to passing on important knowledge by teaching college.
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              • Profile picture of the author JohnB23
                Originally Posted by Greg guitar View Post

                Really? I don't dispute that he is one of the masters, and his book is on my reading list, but did he really say "college doesn't teach you anything?" Now, I'm aware that a big chunk of a given person's education might be wasted, never recalled-never used-and is pretty expensive for something that's never used.

                However, if I get in a car accident, I sure hope I don't get stuck with a surgeon who didn't bother getting a degree. The next time I fly, I'm hoping the plane was designed by people with real engineering degrees, electronics degrees, etc.

                Now as for marketing, I would much rather consult with Dan Kennedy, who has no degree, than the MBAs he likes to poke fun of. I also know there are bad teachers/professors, like there are bad examples in any profession. But to say that college doesn't teach you anything is just beyond ridiculous, and a real insult to many brilliant, talented people who dedicate themselves to passing on important knowledge by teaching college.
                That's what he said. There are several quotes about college in "My life in advertising". Marketing is very different than engineering, being a doctor, being an accountant, etc.

                Here's his specific quotes...

                "I know nothing of value which an advertising man can be taught in college. I know many things taught there which he will need to unlearn before he can steer any practical course."

                "Of course we had no advertising, no courses in salesmanship or journalism. I am sure it would be better if we did not have them now. I have read some of those courses. They were so misleading, so impractical, that they exasperated me. Once a man brought me from a great technical school, their course in advertising, and asked me how to improve it. When I read it, I said: "Burn it. You have no right to occupy a young mans most precious years with rot like that. If he spends four years to learn such theories, he will spend a dozen years to unlearn them. Then he will be so far behind in the race that he will never attempt to catch up."
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