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Buy The Quick-Start Copywriting System or buy a bunch of copywriting books?

by My220x
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I'm looking to learn about copywriting and came across Clayton Makepeace's Quick-Start Copywriting System which is around $800. Do you guys think it's any good? Or should I just buy some books/read some websites and if so what ones?
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
    It depends on your budget and your plan.

    Are you looking to just write better copy for your own info-products than you do now? Or are you looking to write copy professionally?

    That's two huge differences in plan... the first one can be met by reading some of the copywriting classics. The second one... well, if you want to get to the upper tier of copywriter for hire status (both reputation and fee commanded), then you're going to have to study the best training you can get. And you're going to have to keep working on improving your skills.

    I shared my positive thoughts on Clayton's course in this thread here:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...ml#post2397369

    Right now, they have a 50% discount on the course which is a big big savings. In my opinion, it's the best home study copywriting course I've ever seen or studied to date.

    Ultimately, the choice is yours to make.

    Best of luck,

    Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author ARSuarez
      I agree with Mike here, but would also add... the system is good just to learn copywriting. But it is geared more towards becoming a professional writer.

      So if you have your own info-products business (or any other kind of business, really) and want to learn to write copy, this is a great system, too.

      Additionally, I would still advise you get some of the "necessary" copywriting books. The course is damn good, but it's always good to read the classics.

      Regards,

      Angel

      PS. As a reference to the quality of the course, I'll say this: I've readmany of the new and old books, yet I still have roughly 5-6 pages of summarized notes for each chapter. When you consider that there are some 27 chapters in the book... well, it adds up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
    The difference between $800 (the cost of the course) and $820 (the cost of the course plus a typical book) is trivial. It's extra trivial if you have $800 to spend in the first place.

    Get yourself a well-thought-of book, follow its advice, and see how you're coming along. If you feel after that as if you don't need Clayton's course, kudos! You've saved $800. If you feel like you do need it, you go ahead and get it then.

    Don't fall for the myth of thinking you're in a hurry, and need the ONE BEST SOLUTION right away. Takes time to get good at copywriting, no matter what path you choose.

    GL
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  • Profile picture of the author gjabiz
    Originally Posted by My220x View Post

    I'm looking to learn about copywriting and came across Clayton Makepeace's Quick-Start Copywriting System which is around $800. Do you guys think it's any good? Or should I just buy some books/read some websites and if so what ones?
    Look. Here's the truth for about 95% of those copywriters earning their living with copywriting...they've invested thousands, tens of thousands of dollars into their education.

    It is a lifetime learning process. So 800 bux is a good start.

    I think you should have scores of books, tons of video, and more 3 ring binders than your book shelves can hold.

    There are people going 100,000 dollars in debt to get a college diploma...and some of them are pretty decent baristos in the local coffee shop...

    YET, there are copywriters, one mentioned here recently earning 800,000 a YEAR because she writes copy which sells.

    IF you have your sites set on HER kind of a payday from copywriting, start writing, studying learning, writing and then write some more and why be afraid of dropping a couple of grand or more on an education which could return you a lifetime of happiness in addition to a debt free, financially independent lifestyle?

    Spend baby spend. That is, if you are going to Write, baby Write!

    gjabiz
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    • Profile picture of the author My220x
      Originally Posted by gjabiz View Post

      Look. Here's the truth for about 95% of those copywriters earning their living with copywriting...they've invested thousands, tens of thousands of dollars into their education.

      It is a lifetime learning process. So 800 bux is a good start.

      I think you should have scores of books, tons of video, and more 3 ring binders than your book shelves can hold.

      There are people going 100,000 dollars in debt to get a college diploma...and some of them are pretty decent baristos in the local coffee shop...

      YET, there are copywriters, one mentioned here recently earning 800,000 a YEAR because she writes copy which sells.

      IF you have your sites set on HER kind of a payday from copywriting, start writing, studying learning, writing and then write some more and why be afraid of dropping a couple of grand or more on an education which could return you a lifetime of happiness in addition to a debt free, financially independent lifestyle?

      Spend baby spend. That is, if you are going to Write, baby Write!

      gjabiz
      Thanks for your thoughts. I'm going to buy the course, I need to wait for them to get back to me though on UK shipping as I'm not sure how much it will cost and don't want to end up getting a letter saying your package is at the post office but you need to pay $200 to get it
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        • Profile picture of the author Robert Boduch
          Clayton Makepeace is copy writing royalty. Pretty sure he's the highest-paid copywriter alive. If you want to master the skill to write for others (as Mike Humphreys mentioned) you can't go wrong by learning from the best.

          The real secret is to take what you get from this course and every other, and put it into action immediately.

          Create a simple report of your own, grab a free blog, post your sales letter there and start driving traffic. Keep improving your copy one word at a time. Write copy for others for a few hundred bucks to get your feet wet. And keep improving as you go.

          Every copywriter I know is a lifelong learner and avid reader. They didn't buy one book or take a single class and then simply write for a living, content with the education already acquired. No. They continue to learn from a variety of sources.

          To learn anything, you've got to apply it... and the sooner you do, the better. Keep reading... listening... watching... observing.... and testing. Continually add to your knowledge base as you go and your efforts will pay.

          Robert
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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
        Originally Posted by My220x View Post

        Thanks for your thoughts. I'm going to buy the course, I need to wait for them to get back to me though on UK shipping as I'm not sure how much it will cost and don't want to end up getting a letter saying your package is at the post office but you need to pay $200 to get it
        Do you have to pay a VAT on stuff you buy in the U.S.? If so, between that and shipping, it could get pricey. Still well worth it though.

        Alex
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        • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
          Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

          Do you have to pay a VAT on stuff you buy in the U.S.? If so, between that and shipping, it could get pricey. Still well worth it though.

          Alex
          Yes, you do have to pay VAT. And it does take the price up quite a bit.
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          • Profile picture of the author jukeboxhero
            I've got claytons system as well as many, many others and so far nothings proven better than the halbert letters and going through and analyzing many swipe files....

            For me at least, it's been helpful to get a framework to hang all of my information on prior to making such a large purchase...
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            • Profile picture of the author My220x
              Originally Posted by jukeboxhero View Post

              I've got claytons system as well as many, many others and so far nothings proven better than the halbert letters and going through and analyzing many swipe files....

              For me at least, it's been helpful to get a framework to hang all of my information on prior to making such a large purchase...
              Where would you recommend I find pre-made swipes?
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              • Profile picture of the author PMinc
                Originally Posted by My220x View Post

                Where would you recommend I find pre-made swipes?
                I just checked out Ebay and you actually have some pretty high quality stuff really cheap right now. Ted Nicholas' Magic Words is on sale right now for under $20.

                For plenty of free swipes: http://www.hardtofindads.com/home
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