Please Critique My Sales Page

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Please Critique My Sales Page : CBFormulaX.com

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  • Profile picture of the author centarec
    Well let me start first with the negative things

    I would remove the second video with the girl, it is not good, and it looks fake. On the other hand I would prefer the 3rd video on the top since the guy actually looks like he know what he is talking about(negative thing in this video is that first he says this package is for those who want to have their own product, and later he says but you can still sign up, buy the product and be an affiliate, which contradicts the first statement).

    Next, your testimonials, except one page, all the other sites below the person name do not exist. NOT good!

    On the other hand you have all the elements one good site should have. I did not go trough the sales letter itself but I am sure other people will and they can comment on it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
    Your headline is supposed to grab attention...compel...practically force the reader to move on to the first line of copy to find out what the headline is all about.

    I don't find anything the least bit compelling about a 25 yr old making 50,000 a year. A 14 year old? Yes. A 25 year old making 1.2 million? Yes. 25 and $50k? That's about as vanilla as it gets.

    Don't get me wrong; it's a good living. Indeed, I'm happy for your success. It's just not *exciting*. I don't want to read more and find out how. He can make that driving a UPS truck, or sitting in a cubicle. I know this, and don't need to waste my precious surfing time finding out more.

    I *like* that you seem to be offering a make-money-reliably scheme rather than a get-rich-quick one. But your attention-getter still needs to get attention. Right now, it's failing.

    I'd also re-shoot that opening video. In front of $20 pressboard bookshelves and looking up at you from what's obviously an in-screen camera doesn't scream to me "4 hour workweek lifestyle", like you're touting in the video. It says, "I'm scraping by."

    Again, don't get me wrong. I've got a few $20 pressboard bookcases in the chateau Oxbloom as well. I'm just not going to show them to people who I'm trying to convince of the fact that I'm making a comfortable, easy, finally-made-it living. Details are important. A plain white wall is more than sufficient. Present a blank canvas, and the viewer will fill in the details he wants to see.
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  • Profile picture of the author JanPat
    Wow. Talk about busy.

    Try dropping the "Warning: This Offer Is Extremely Limited" before the headline. And hold off on the annoying pop-up until the readers decides to leave. Pop-ups also kill it for some promoters.
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    • Profile picture of the author OutOfThisWord
      Because you see people screaming all over the Internet... doesn't mean you should do it or it even works.

      Try another sales page with the 25 year old telling a story... to the reader as a friend... and give the story teller some credibility as to why anyone would want to listen.

      Also, can't get excited about the needle graphics, unless you were advertising a horror movie.
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      • Profile picture of the author Zentech
        It's not blatantly terrible, but I don't particularly care for it. Because I'm bored at the moment, and because you said "please" and "thank you," I'll offer some quick thoughts.

        Warning: This Offer Is Extremely Limited
        Doesn't need to be there. You're taking a tremendous amount of impact OFF your headline by having this pointless "warning" preceding it. If you're trying to manufacture scarcity, better to do that later.

        "Learn How a 25 Year old is Making $56,722.21 a Year Using The Clickbank "X" Formula"
        Not bad, but not great. It's kind of like Tabasco hot sauce where what you're going for is Blair's Triple Insanity. Try something more like this instead:

        How a Random 25 Year-Old Came Out of Nowhere with a Weird New Clickbank Formula That's Making Him a Cool 56k a Year Part-Time... And How YOU Can Duplicate His Results Step-By-Step

        How this works, briefly:

        1) It establishes you as a "random" guy, just like the poor random prospect stumbling on your page. It gives you "regular guy, anti-guru" cred, which you'll need since you're not positioning yourself as a guru (56k a year is way too small a sum to claim guruhood).

        2) "Coming out of nowhere." Same idea as above, plus you're getting inside the prospect's head. If he's in the market to make $56k a year online, chances are he sees himself as being in financial "nowheresville." That's where you came from, and it's the place you escaped. He can, too.

        3) "Weird new formula." In other words, it's NOT the same tired old Clickbank advice the other 700 guys are selling. Unless of course it IS that, in which case I couldn't ethically suggest you use this angle.

        4) "56k a year part time." Self-explanatory, although I think you'd be better off breaking this down to a weekly figure. $56k a year doesn't sound like all that much, you know. I don't want you to lie, but a weekly figure would probably sound better. It's $1090 a week, by the way.

        5) "YOU can duplicate," etc. Involves the prospect. Basic sales, self-explanatory.

        Find Out Everything YOU Need to Know About Unbelievable Techniques That Will Set Your Sales and Profits Soaring!
        No specificity here. It feels like fluff. As a sub-headline, it's fairly useless. Tells me nothing, establishes no connection, and builds no trust.

        Dear Future Clickbank Millionaire,


        Oh Lord. I really don't like this greeting. You're selling me on a $56k a year income and then addressing me as "future millionaire?" Doesn't add up. You're trying to pitch two totally different markets here. The guys looking for $56k a year opportunities are not the same ones looking for "millionaire" opportunities. Which prospects are you targeting? Pick a market and stick to it.


        How long have you been trying to make money online?
        ...6 months, maybe a year, maybe more?

        I'm guessing it's been more than a little while. Trying one method after another with little to no results.


        Yes, if I'm a typical prospect, I've been at it forever, and encountering scam after scam. But you're not building trust with me here, either - because EVERY sales page includes this tired old hook, and they were all duds/scams/flops. Guess what that's leading me to conclude about yours?

        Drop this and replace it with something original and useful. Such as your USP.

        Wouldn't it be great to make a bundle of money with little effort, working from home in your pajamas? Of course it would.


        Yes. And wouldn't it be great if tiny musical monkeys could materialize out of my pants, too?

        Drop this like the plague. "Little effort" and "work from home in pajamas" might have been top-notch stuff 10 years ago, but now days it's like purposely setting off the scam detector.

        This is not a get rich quick scheme. As most of you probably know by now, any product or service guaranteeing you'll make a certain amount of profit within a specific timeframe is simply deceiving you.
        Wait, what? But you addressed me as "future millionaire" and then told me it involved "little effort" and I could do it "in my pajamas." Me am confused. It sure sounded like a get-rich-quick dealie until you told me it wasn't. And what have you accomplished now? Have you built credibility with me? Nope - quite the opposite.

        Instead, you've created cognitive dissonance, confusion, and the vague feeling of something amiss in my mind. Not good. Speaking as Joe Prospect, I'm not totally sure what's wrong here, but I have the odd feeling something is rotten in the state of Denmark, so to speak.

        With that being said, I can only speak to my own personal experience and the testimonials of satisfied customers on the website.
        In other words, you're telling me you can offer me absolutely nothing concrete, since your experiences are obviously biased, and every prospect in 2010 knows that testimonials can be made up (and usually are). You're trying hard here, and getting an E for effort, but I'm a good ways into the letter and the credibility meter still stands at precisely zero. Speaking as Joe Prospect, you've built no trust with me at all.

        Look, this letter is long, and I'm running out of steam for a freebie critique. Let's just say the whole letter is pretty much like this, and while it's not horrible writing on the face of it, it's not really very good.

        What you need is a total re-write. If you have the goods and your system is for real, then it can certainly be sold on a massive scale. This letter will not do that, though. If your product is real, then you couldn't go wrong paying up to $5k for a really good copywriter (of whom there are several here) because it would pay itself back quite fast.

        But without a re-write, I doubt you'll even see $5k sales on this.
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  • Profile picture of the author tandiono
    Thanks for the feedback

    I've edited some of the stuff on the pages. Any other comments still?
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  • Profile picture of the author jtunkelo
    The impression I have is that there is no story. No backstory, no rags-to-riches, no discovery... and if there is, you should at least tease it.

    Now it's just going straight into selling a product before you've even established there's a problem and a solution.

    In other words, it's not really a sales letter. It's an okay product presentation. The third act. You need act one and act two first, to get people interested in this. Does that make sense to you?
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  • Profile picture of the author tandiono
    I did make some changes again. Please have a look and any comment or critiques are most welcome. Thanks once again
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  • Profile picture of the author Zentech
    You used my headline. But how come you put this at the top?

    Warning: The Previously Untold Clickbank "X" Formula!
    I don't see how that's a "warning." What is the warning? The untold Clickbank X Formula? That's not a warning, it's your product.

    The other improvements you've made are good. This page is now noticeably better than it was. It's still more or less missing some "meat" in the form of a compelling personal story that builds trust and establishes rapport with the prospect, but it's better than it was.

    With the addition of the compelling personal story your headline hints at, the page would be closer to being ready to convert.
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  • Profile picture of the author davemiz
    am i the only one who caught that the dude in the video is not the same as the dude on the site?

    look at the bottom by the signature.... its a totally different dude.

    confused.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zentech
      Don't think it's supposed to be. The way I understood it is that the video guy is a guy who uses the product, but didn't create it. The guy at the bottom is the creator. Who either of them actually are, I have no idea, but that's the way I gathered it's being presented.

      I like how the guy at the bottom has a shirtless pic as a business photo, though. I thought I was the only one crazy enough to do that, lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
        Originally Posted by Zentech View Post

        Don't think it's supposed to be. The way I understood it is that the video guy is a guy who uses the product, but didn't create it. The guy at the bottom is the creator. Who either of them actually are, I have no idea, but that's the way I gathered it's being presented.

        I like how the guy at the bottom has a shirtless pic as a business photo, though. I thought I was the only one crazy enough to do that, lol.
        Wow.

        I guess you're right.

        It *never* would have occurred to me that a guy featured that prominently, right below the headline, above the fold, above the greeting...was anything *but* the product's owner.

        I'll bet a lot of viewers will be in that boat.
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        • Profile picture of the author Zentech
          It surprised me too. I watched the video and was initially confused, because the guy I was expecting to be the author/seller was talking about how he had "found" the product.

          Also, the guy in the second video isn't much of an actor. Even with shades on you can tell he's clearly reading a script.

          And then, seemingly quite randomly, it turns out the product creator is apparently the somewhat manic-looking guy in the little pic at the end.

          Yes, it's all a bit confusing.
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  • Profile picture of the author usfemail
    This thread is very informative for me as I am into learning more about building sales pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Lorrance
    Isn't there supposed to be benefits of the product? I see mostly modules...probably would help if the benefits are explicitly explained. This would entice the readers (or buyers) more.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zero
    I hate to ask the obvious question here....If you're making that much money, why not just invest in a copywriter to critique it/re-do the whole thing??
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  • Profile picture of the author Zentech
    Possibly because he's getting a fairly detailed and most likely helpful free critique here (pending testing, but I'm very confident it's vastly improved already).

    I'm partly to blame for that, I guess. I hear what you're saying - and the page certainly isn't improved to the point where *paid* professional attention couldn't still do wonders for it. It's still far from a great page, and others here have had great suggestions as to what is still needed.

    It does seem a little strange not to at least get a through paid critique if you're raking in the cash. It's not as if it's really expensive.

    I definitely feel I've put more than enough on the table for free, speaking for myself, and I think you have a strong point. I put an hour or two into this thread total and haven't even been offered so much as a copy of the product in return. But hey, them's the breaks.
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  • Profile picture of the author tandiono
    Thanks for the headline Zentech.

    Eventually after making some change I did seeing some improvement of 2.17% conversion. Anyway there's still more to be done. Any other feedback are always most welcome
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  • Profile picture of the author centarec
    I would still put the 3rd video guy that you removed, as first video. I would cut the other video till the part when he starts speaking about affiliates. I think he would work better, and by the way I have just seen the current first video guy on at least 2 other websites...
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  • Profile picture of the author alankay
    Not sure if stating your results and implying people who buy can attain the same results is kosher with the FTC ...
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    • Profile picture of the author Zentech
      Thanks for the headline Zentech.

      Eventually after making some change I did seeing some improvement of 2.17% conversion.
      No problem - thanks for the testimonial.
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  • Profile picture of the author MonsterZero
    I'm going to be a little bit mean about this, so I apologize in advance...

    But this?

    Not that you can't make millions with this system, it is entirely possible. Once again, that's up to you.


    Can we please stop lying to people? Not only did your mama teach you better, it doesn't work.

    Why?

    Well, let's use a little common sense here. Do YOU know anyone who chooses not to make millions when they have the ability to do so right in front of them?

    Oh, sure I could make millions with this, but $57,000 is plenty. I don't care so much about money ... which is why I'm trying to sell you this system ... wait ... errrrr ...

    And how about this guy on your video? He makes $5,000 a month, yet has cheap, mismatched Sauder brand particle board shelves in his office and is wearing a shirt he bought on discount from TJ Maxx?

    Oh, and I just noticed the curtains. Is that guy in his 5 yr old son's room?

    Really?

    You don't have to be a rocket scientist to see through what a big pile of bull**** all of this is.



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  • Profile picture of the author SingerRinging
    I think your sales page works. For one thing, the 25 year is believable. 50K a year for some people is all they need or want. (For someone off-the-top to say they are earning millions of dollars sounds like Hype.) The free bonus offers are nice, too. For someone who is searching the web for an opportunity, and doesn't have a lot of time to invest (maybe on their lunch break or something), it does the job. The bottom line is the cost of the program, and it's very affordable. Good job.
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  • Profile picture of the author tandiono
    Thanks for the kind words

    Im currently still testing the pitch page conversion.
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  • Profile picture of the author tandiono
    Please have a look on the newly done sales page. Any comments or feedback? Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris_Willow
    The header looks weird when using a bigger monitor. Maybe cut a 1px wide vertical slice from the end of the header image and put it in background: repeat-x or something.

    Also it might be a good idea to try The Belcher Button, if you're testing stuff.

    Otherwise it looks just like any other generic clickbank make money online ebook. Which is not always a bad thing, if it works.

    Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author Oxbloom
    It looks a lot better than it did when you first posted!

    Kudos on that.

    I'm still not 100% sure what your product is called. The "X" seems to move around the product name, depending where in the letter you look. Might want to get that all squared away throughout your copy.

    Anyway, good luck with your product.
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  • Profile picture of the author centarec
    I do not like the bill at the top...I really do not see the purpose of the $100 bill.

    And text somehow became not that readable. Did you change the font? To be honest I prefer the previous page.
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  • Profile picture of the author centarec
    According to many Arial 12 pt is the font one should use. According to many tests it is the most readable font.

    I am still in opinion that the video that is in your affiliate section is the most solid one. If you cut it properly and take out the affiliate talks, it should fit good on the first page.
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  • Hey,

    Not sure if you're still open to feedback but here goes...

    One thing that didn't make sense to me was beginning the conversation by planting the idea of "Scam" in the readers mind. Right out of the gate. I don't get it.

    It's the whole premise of telling someone NOT to think of a pink elephant, DON'T think of a pink elephant, you better NOT even dream of seeing a pink elephant in your mind!!! What do you naturally see in your mind? Pink elephant.

    Because the mind works in this way, it's always seemed to me to be common sense to stay away from the popular copywriting technique prescribed by Dan Kennedy of "Saying what something isn't."

    If you don't use the English language to anywhere near it's capacity, you take that advice and piece together copy that accomplishes the opposite effect and if you do this in the top fold of the letter... Not Good.

    The thinking behind that piece of advice is sound but you're actually gunning for something along the lines of "Here's how this is different from _________..." Different/unique/special is the idea that you want to plant. Not scam.

    Running with your opening might have made more sense in my perspective had it been a continuation of the headline but the headline lends more of an angle that could be the guys story, which in my eyes, if it's "Weird" and "random" (don't necessarily like this word here either) then it makes sense to continue this train of thought and suck them in with a story that hopefully is intriguing so that people keep reading.

    One other thing I believe this lead could also be helped with is by emphasizing through the story, how $56K is actually a **** load of money to someone who's making $25K or who has a part-time income of ZERO.

    This is a common mistake that happens when you don't put yourself in the shoes of the person for the who this offer is for but instead, you come from where you are or want to pretend you are.

    The income promise here is something that caters more to Al Bundy than Donald Trump. So using the guys story of how he works/worked at a normal/meaningless/**** job, has been behind on rent for an apartment that was only $750 a month, scrounged change so he could ride the bus to his job and now after using this system... he moved into a house (Huge difference to someone in a place that $56K sounds heavenly to - Al Bundy) that he rents for $1,500 a month, bought a new used car and is on the verge of quitting or has quit his **** job.... is far more compelling than you telling me right away to trust you and that "I'm not trying to deceive you".

    I don't even know you yet, but a story can get me familiar fast. Stories sell "you" AND "your system", both of which need to happen here. This story also helps a person at this income level completely get over the worst objection facing you... "I know this guy did it, but can I?"

    If you slay this objection in the opening of your letter, I'd say 95% of your work is done and the rest of the 5% of resistance will be easy to knock down with your guarantee, your proof, and your bonuses.

    Now I never read past the first subhead so I don't know what kind of story is trapped below, if any, but what I do know is that testing a change in this lead could give you a major bump in your conversion... if in fact, all of your other ducks are in a row and this thing does what you say it will.

    And, I hope I'm completely wrong here and that this letter, opening as it is, is absolutely crushing it. THAT would be awesome. :-) I'd still ask the question then of, "How high is high?" Hahaha
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  • Profile picture of the author Innovalist
    Basically its a good copy.

    The things I would improve are to first tell a good story.

    Rags to riches stuff are still the winners.

    Also there are no highlights which jump out to tell you what the benefits are. We all know that 90% of readers just scan a document within 30 seconds flat instead of reading everything.

    Some handwritten scrawlies are good.


    You need to pump in lots of testimonials, real pictures (not stuff you steal off the net), CB images, press releases, newspaper cuttings, impressive "As Seen On CNN..." logos etc.

    Here's one which looks good in my books: ultimatecopywriting.net
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