Critique my site please

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Okay so after taking Kevin Rileys PCL I realized a lot of errors in the way I was doing my salespage so I did a complete overhaul of my salespage and was hoping I could get some feedback before making it the main one (right now anything will do better than the around .5%-.75% the main one does. So the main link is Weekly Moments -52 Date Nights For Parents and the new salespage I wrote is Weekly Moments -52 Date Nights For Parents Any feedback good or bad appreciated as I know I am not the best at copywriting salespages..yet, but trying.

Sylvia
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  • Profile picture of the author Julian Lockhart
    The headline is awkward.Also, I don't have children.

    I think you should consult some cosmos or glamor mags for some headlines.
    E.G "How to reignite the passion in your marriage etc."

    The copy is very "thick" - break it up with some bolded lines that tell a story:

    But he didn't stop there . .
    And then he discovered
    Dont let this happen to you
    etc

    I am a fan of benfits descibed this way:
    find out how to _____ on page 47
    see a simple _______ page 23
    make sure you _______ page 16
    surprise him with this _____ page 4





    I recommend that you read robert planks blog and
    buy his wso. I don't own it(yet)

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    (Link would be there after 15 posts)

    Hope this helps

    Julian





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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    you've got no terms, contact us, privacy page, etc on your site, if ya gonna do ppc, you'll need to add those to increase the QS a little bit more. I'd also add an article link at the bottom too and start creating articles as well to give the site some more useful feedback to the user.
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    • Profile picture of the author OnlineMasterMind
      Why did you remove the bonuses? I think for that market, they're in research mode and those probably have a lot of perceived value. They're hungry and it looks like more food.

      I still think the headline needs work... I would use something that let's them qualify themself instantly (i.e "IS YOUR MARRIAGE IN A RUT?") followed by something like "Mother of 5 Reveals Her Step-by-Step...______...Guaranteed to _______6*9 and ______ ;-p"

      then i'd start off with a story relating to them and how you understand their sex life sucks so does everybody elses --->reason why + social proof and.... "it's not their fault"

      then a little bit of fear (divorce) and followed again by the solution and they are going to be better than all the other boring people.

      you gotta use social proof and they you have to make them feel special - go figure!
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    P.S. Raise Your Price!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob Canyon
    Sylvia,

    Just one thing... You're Selling the Dream... (aka the result)

    Get the Mom juggling all her crap picture off your page and conversions will go way up...

    Yes, this is probably your market and you've got to get in front of people
    that feel like that, when they feel like that, but you don't want to remind a
    relatively put together woman that that's the real crap going on in her life (IMHO)

    Cheers,

    Rob
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    • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
      Rob is right.

      You want to create the FEELING of owning the results of
      the product, IN THE FUTURE. So your pictures should
      portray people as they wish to be, not as they presently
      are. This is a tested advertising axiom. Pictures of attractive,
      healthy looking people outpull pictures of the opposite.

      Try to get your reader to visualize the satisfaction, relaxation
      and fun of having a night out - even a glamourous one, stepping
      out to a nice club.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
      Originally Posted by Julian Lockhart View Post

      The headline is awkward.Also, I don't have children.

      I think you should consult some cosmos or glamor mags for some headlines.
      E.G "How to reignite the passion in your marriage etc."

      The copy is very "thick" - break it up with some bolded lines that tell a story:

      But he didn't stop there . .
      And then he discovered
      Dont let this happen to you
      etc

      I am a fan of benfits descibed this way:
      find out how to _____ on page 47
      see a simple _______ page 23
      make sure you _______ page 16
      surprise him with this _____ page 4





      I recommend that you read robert planks blog and
      buy his wso. I don't own it(yet)

      WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums - Robert Plank's FREE Marketing, Copywriting and Programming Video Advice for Warriors
      (Link would be there after 15 posts)

      Hope this helps

      Julian


      Julian, the target market is parents, which is why the story and everything else go with the children aspect..the subtitle of the book is 52 date nights for parents.

      Will see about adding in the page link idea part.

      For the text being thick, are you meaning bolding the start of the sentances like the few you indicated or putting in more sentances in that are in complete bold?

      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      you've got no terms, contact us, privacy page, etc on your site, if ya gonna do ppc, you'll need to add those to increase the QS a little bit more. I'd also add an article link at the bottom too and start creating articles as well to give the site some more useful feedback to the user.
      Asloz,
      I do have a blog and everything that is attached to the site, so maybe just linking to that, as it has an assortment of articles related to this on it and its only links out are back to the salespage.

      Not going the PPC route but I think I will those things anyways.

      Originally Posted by OnlineMasterMind View Post

      Why did you remove the bonuses? I think for that market, they're in research mode and those probably have a lot of perceived value. They're hungry and it looks like more food.

      I still think the headline needs work... I would use something that let's them qualify themself instantly (i.e "IS YOUR MARRIAGE IN A RUT?") followed by something like "Mother of 5 Reveals Her Step-by-Step...______...Guaranteed to _______6*9 and ______ ;-p"

      then i'd start off with a story relating to them and how you understand their sex life sucks so does everybody elses --->reason why + social proof and.... "it's not their fault"

      then a little bit of fear (divorce) and followed again by the solution and they are going to be better than all the other boring people.

      you gotta use social proof and they you have to make them feel special - go figure!
      Not really going the sex route, this is a date night for parents to reconnect and to get to know each other again. No sex tips or anything like that in the book, just simle creative and inexpensive date nights at home.

      Will add the bonuses back in though.

      Originally Posted by Rob Canyon View Post

      Sylvia,

      Just one thing... You're Selling the Dream... (aka the result)

      Get the Mom juggling all her crap picture off your page and conversions will go way up...

      Yes, this is probably your market and you've got to get in front of people
      that feel like that, when they feel like that, but you don't want to remind a
      relatively put together woman that that's the real crap going on in her life (IMHO)

      Cheers,

      Rob
      Okay sell the dream, picture the dream. Will do. In regards to this do you think I should get rid of the pic with the bills? Maybe take out that entire section and use the happy playful one up top instead?

      Thank everyone for the feedback and I will go see what I can do about adding to it.
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  • Profile picture of the author wrcato
    Pull them in, prove your case and push them back.
    Your copy is a little sloppy.
    Write out as many features your product has. Then create the benefits to the features.

    "No longer having to feel like there is no romance, no lust, and no time for yourself. "

    Here is what I would do this this sentence

    "feel like there is no romance, no lust, and no time for yourself?" then hit them with some features .

    I found some typos and a space y ou like this. It looks sloppy.

    I do think you are on the right track.

    Use the tree P's.
    tighten your copy. Every sentence should have meaning to your product.

    Your testimonials I would put somewhere that it doesn't break the copy up so bad.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
      Originally Posted by wrcato View Post

      Pull them in, prove your case and push them back.
      Your copy is a little sloppy.
      Write out as many benefits your product has.
      then write out the features.
      "No longer having to feel like there is no romance, no lust, and no time for yourself. "

      Here is what I would do this this sentence

      "feel like there is no romance, no lust, and no time for yourself?" then hit them with some features and back them up with a benefit.

      I found some typos and a space y ou like this. It looks sloppy.

      I do think you are on the right track.

      Use the tree P's.
      tighten your copy. Every sentence should have meaning to your product.

      Your testimonials I would put somewhere that it doesn't break the copy up so bad.
      What are the three p's?

      Went through and found the spelling mistakes you were talking about and the incidence of y ou.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    I would use a pic of mom stepping out wearing a slinky
    black dress and heels... reclaiming her right to get
    gussied up and go someplace nice with no noses to be
    wiped in sight.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrainDance
    Hi Sylvia
    I'm not a writer or an editor, but looking at it from a design perspective, these are my thoughts:

    1. get a nice clean header image , it doesn't have to me overdone, just a simple image, add a footer.
    2. consider framing your content or changing the cell padding, right now the text is jammed up against the edges
    3. move the ebook cover up to the initial introduction
    4. use bullets under "so whats the big secret"
    5. clean up the graphics, colors and testimonial boxes.
    6. clean up the font sizes and styles
    7. use a graphic for an 'order now' image
    8. how are payments processed?
    9. add a generic privacy policy
    10. add those bonus books up higher to help sell the main ebook
    11. clean up those covers as well
    12. I'm not sure what the people on the cover are doing, drinking invisible coffee, picking their teeth, sign language?
    if you ever need it, I'd redo the site for you (design only of course) for 75.00 redo all 3 ecovers too, it will only take a few hours if that
    Consider adding a mailing list, with an offer of maybe one date night idea a week, they don't have to be from your book, but just as a gathering email tool.

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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Thanks for the ideas and critique everyone, I had another major critique done and have partially implemented all the things he said to fix, could you all let me know what you think now.
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    • Profile picture of the author maximus242
      Okay I see a number of things.

      First off is the headline. Negative headlines are dangerous to the pocket book. If your going to use them you have to know...

      How To Strike The Fear Of God In Them!

      If your going to go negative headline, make it bold, make it dramatic and make it highly highly believable. Then you'll have their attention.

      Such as... ahem

      1 in 4 Women Over 30 Will Die From This Flesh Eating Disease

      Or...

      If Your A Woman Over 30 You Have A 25% Chance Of Dieing From This Horrible Flesh Eating Disease

      Why haven't we been told these facts? The American Medical Association has been releasing reports every year, for the past 27 years proving that one in four women will die from this horrible flesh eating disease... and the worst part is... its completely preventable!

      Are you ready to play Russian Roulette with your life?

      Now, I just made all that up in about 30 seconds. However, if your a woman over thirty, I bet I got your attention ^_^

      Personally im not a fan of negative headlines, Caples warned against them.

      I am guessing you are selling to married women, probably ages 30-50 who are in troubled relationships or who are paranoid.

      If your going to scare people you have to really scare them. But a far better way is to scare them without letting them know your TRYING to scare them. Because when people know your purposely trying to induce fear in them then they can get retalious.

      What you should do instead is to figure out... What would get the attention of a married woman who was worried about her marriage?

      Also if you are going to use a story... USE A REAL ONE or a really good fake one. Talk about how your marriage was on the rocks, fearing the worst, make it bold make it dramatic and then talk about how you saved your marriage.

      Now this is how you could do it.

      How Silvia Rolfe Saved Her Marriage And Her Family... And How You Can Do It Too!

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      How To Save Your Marriage (simple but it works)

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      If Your A Woman In A Troubled Marriage, You Need To Know These Facts! -- Written By A Woman

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      Who Else Wants To Keep Their Husband?


      If you want to induce fear, its good to do it through topical headlines. Like

      "Investors Make 1000% Gains -- In Worst Stock Market Crash In 20 Years!"

      "Divorce Rates Skyrocket! Happiest Married Couples Reveal Their Secrets To Staying Happy"

      Anyways this is all off the top of my head. Now if your going to use the "heres how I saved my marriage and how you can save yours" thing. Then here is a great opening sentence for you

      Dear Friend,

      If you would like to stay happily married... then... here is how I saved my marriage in Arkansas (random state I picked) and how you can save yours.

      Thats a killer opening line to use, its money.

      You need more bullets too. Not enough bullets at all.

      I would cut the lame ass story. If your going to do a story then do it right like the Wall Street Journal Ad (google it). Yours sounds so fake. The Wall Street Journal one sounds authentic.

      Your testimonial is hard to read. Cut out the bold, add more spaces, improve readability.

      Oh I had another headline idea

      "How To Relive The Passion You Both Had On Your Honey Moon Everyday"

      Sell them on the bonuses more, tell them what they get in the bonuses.

      Give a better description of the book, what it will do for them. Find your usp. Tell them why your book is different than every other book on the market and how your book is the only one that solves their unique problem.

      When youve done all that, pm me and ill have a look at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lambert Klein
    Geeez I thought it was pretty darn good. Especially the headline..

    You must of changed it since the other posts...
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
      Iklein,
      Thanks. I am slowly trying to make it better as it really wasn't converting very well.

      I think it looks way better now and personally, as well as I have heard from many others the story does great. The bullets I changed and used from the original because as one critique I recieved pointed out they were much better than the ones on the new letter. I am also going to put each bonus into its own box with a few bullets on each and move them further up the page.

      I don't think much beyond that is going to change for now, except I may remove that one testimonial and try to see if I can get better ones that say more along the lines of this worked for us type testimonials. Showing that it works and that it isnt simply a case of them liking it.

      Thank you all very much for your help.
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  • Profile picture of the author maximus242
    Thats funny. There is about another 2-3 weeks worth of work you could do on that salesletter, depends on how much money you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author OnlineMasterMind
      Hey Sylvia,

      I think it looks A LOT better! nice job.. I was also gonna say you should build more value into the bonuses instead of and "oh by the way" and I just saw you did that

      (I'd also consider putting a value on each one of least $14.95 so in essence they are getting your book "free")

      And I still think you should raise the price to $27 or $29.95 - at least test it... it doesn't have to convert as well and you'll still make more money.

      Good Luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
        Originally Posted by OnlineMasterMind View Post

        Hey Sylvia,

        I think it looks A LOT better! nice job.. I was also gonna say you should build more value into the bonuses instead of and "oh by the way" and I just saw you did that

        (I'd also consider putting a value on each one of least $14.95 so in essence they are getting your book "free")

        And I still think you should raise the price to $27 or $29.95 - at least test it... it doesn't have to convert as well and you'll still make more money.

        Good Luck.
        Thank You, and yes I was contemplating putting the price up to $27 now that the salespage look better. And I wasn't too sure about adding in the suggested prices on the bonuses but it does make sense from the customer point as they will feel the book is free.

        Sylvia
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  • Profile picture of the author stanwyck
    The happy couple look years younger than your target audience. They look more like the little ones that are causing your audience so much trouble.
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  • Profile picture of the author Loren Woirhaye
    I looked again to see what changes you've made...

    and I discovered your page has a major issue with
    the browser I am using today - Google Chrome -
    enough that you will lose any Chrome user.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
      Originally Posted by Loren Woirhaye View Post

      I looked again to see what changes you've made...

      and I discovered your page has a major issue with
      the browser I am using today - Google Chrome -
      enough that you will lose any Chrome user.
      What happens? or where do I download chrome to check it out. I checked it on various Firefox and IE's on both this computer (which is my widescreen laptop) and on my desktop.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
    Um yikes nvm, I downloaded it and well half the page is missing, wtf? I really have no idea how to fix that.
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