Do I suck badly at copywriting? Please have a look at this site, and tell me!

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Hello Warriors,

This is my first post in this particular forum, because the sort of internet marketing which requires writing "sales-y"/convincing copy (ie, affiliate marketing, CPA, the sort of thing where the end goal is to get a potential customer to do something or sign up for offers) isn't really my "thing"; I'm more of an informational content/blogging/Adsense kind of guy - I can write well, but direct selling has never been my strong point.

A little while ago I put up a one page site for a health-related affiliate product. I'd love to show it to you all (it's hardly a "top secret niche" - it's for ZetaClear fungus treatment), and would be pleased for the copywriters who excel in selling this - or any - sort of affiliate product/CPA offer to tell me what you think.

The URL is: ZetaClear Toenail Fungus Treatment: The Truth About ZetaClear

I did nothing for offpage SEO except one press release which has brought, according to my Cpanel, oh, ninety or so visitors this month; the unique CTR number is about 15 clicks. No sales.

So tell me what you think. Is my style too dry? Not demanding action well enough? If someone can point out examples of what to change or make specific suggestions, I'd love to hear them.

Thanks, Warriors!
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  • Profile picture of the author Drez
    Hey there.

    The one thing I see right off is that your selling the FEATURES rather than the core need or desire.

    Think about what the prospect is yearning for.

    For example your headline might be something like (totally off the cuff).

    "Embarrassed by your grotesque fungus infected toenails? Wish you could were open-toed sandals WITHOUT covering your toenails with thick coats of polish?"

    "Well, FINALLY (real) help is here ... NOW!"

    See what I mean? (I'm not saying my copy is great - just trying to make a point).

    You want to sell the sizzle ... not the steak.

    Then take a look at your bullets.

    They need to be more (real) benefit oriented. And try a double-banger benefit too.

    For example: This amazing formula brushes on and dries instantly. (You'll be able to put a coat of polish on withing seconds)

    or

    ZetaClear is made with powerful ingredients, combined in a unique, proprietary blend. (We tested thousands of combinations to make sure the formula was both effective AND safe)

    Give it a try and see if it makes a difference for you.
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    • First of all, if you're in the United States I'd be very wary of doing an affiliate review website.

      Now on to the copy itself. It seems unclear whether you're a reviewer or a salesperson - you can be one or the other, but you can't be both. If you're going to write sales copy, don't make the headline lure the reader in as if they're reading a review. Make the headline compelling, make it frame the key problem facing the customer and the key benefit ZetaClear provides. What's so bad about toenail fungus? Is it painful? Is it itchy? Is it embarrassing? For example:

      What If You Could End The Pain of Toenail Fungus... For Good?

      Pain, or discomfort, or whatever. I don't know enough about the product and target market to give you something more effective, but that gives you an idea.

      As for body copy, I agree with what was said above.
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      • Oh, also - eliminate words you don't need. Take the headline of this post - "suck badly." As if you could "suck well"? The word "suck" implies the "badly," so "badly" is unnecessary. Again this is just an example of how to tighten up your copy.
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      • Profile picture of the author betteseo
        Originally Posted by premiumonlinewriting View Post

        First of all, if you're in the United States I'd be very wary of doing an affiliate review website.
        why? I have a business partner in the States who would like me to write copy for an affiliate review site there so I'm really interested to hear your thoughts on the subject...

        I don't want to waste my time writing for something that's not going to work. Would it be better for me to do it from here (thailand), and if so, why?

        thanks.

        bette
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  • Profile picture of the author genhorrall
    Okay I agree that you should make your site a review. You are linking to the sales page. And while that is well sort of a little bit crowded it is the sales page for the product that you are talking about.

    I would also change around the order of how you present stuff on your page. I would talk about the nail fungus first. How it makes the prospect feel? Then I would discuss and describe what nail fungus is and how bad it can be.

    Then I would describe the benefits of treating it. I would discuss some of the drawbacks of the other treatments on the market and then I would discuss how wonderful you product is and why it is better. The fact that it is all natural. Safe to use. How easy it is to use, no fuss and lots of waitng for drying of other yucky chemically stuff.

    You get the idea. You are a content writer, but I would say you need to add more there. I think you could do much better with adding more and reviewing instead of just changing your copy. That is just my opinion.

    I hope to not offend. These are just my opinions as I have said.
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  • Hi!

    I am not a copywriter, nor is English my main language. Concerning your writing style people have already commented on that. So,from my personal, "casual visitor" point of view I immediately find the page to long to read. I would certainly split the text in shorter paragraphs, add some pictures or graphics to have the important text stand out, use checkboxes or colors to highlight the benefits, shorten the reviews using dots... and the important part only... then dots again. Unfortunately this is how I am used to read websites. Unless is a book or a "how to" explanation for which I don't care if it is long and "ugly" looking at all: I need the information. Sales pages, especially of tiny niches such as "the truth about Zeta Clear", should go to the point, be simple. Ideally, a good title, 3-4 points of benefits, 2-3 short testimonials and the affiliate link. That's it. Your page is more an article for ezinearticles.com than a webpage.

    That's my opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author bummed.out
      Great answers, guys! I've fully or partially quoted all of you and replied below.

      Originally Posted by Drez View Post

      Hey there.

      The one thing I see right off is that your selling the FEATURES rather than the core need or desire.

      Think about what the prospect is yearning for.
      Good point; benefits-based writing is something I've never excelled at, and I'll have to look more closely at this.

      Originally Posted by premiumonlinewriting View Post

      First of all, if you're in the United States I'd be very wary of doing an affiliate review website.

      Now on to the copy itself. It seems unclear whether you're a reviewer or a salesperson - you can be one or the other, but you can't be both.
      It's true; I basically whipped this site up in a short period of time; I definitely didn't consider whether it sounded like a review page or a sales page, and seemingly, it turned into an ineffective hybrid of both!

      I'm not sure why you caution me about writing affiliate review websites if I'm in the States. (For what it's worth, I live in Canada, but I still don't understand the reason for your warning; would you mind letting me know?)

      Originally Posted by premiumonlinewriting View Post

      Oh, also - eliminate words you don't need. Take the headline of this post - "suck badly." As if you could "suck well"? The word "suck" implies the "badly," so "badly" is unnecessary. Again this is just an example of how to tighten up your copy.
      LOL, I know. I hesitated when I put the word "badly" in; but I'll leave it now, for the benefit of anyone else reading this thread.

      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      On the suckometer, you are right around a 7. Never write a sales page that links to another sales page. Your hook is awful.

      If you're good at expository writing, simply describe the problem and offer a solution.

      The sales page should do the rest for you.
      A "7"? Argh, the pain! Naw, I'm kidding; it's quite alright - I need to know if I'm doing a poor job at something like this. When you say "Never write a sales page that links to another sales page. Your hook is awful," are you suggesting that my site resembles a sales page too much to be linked to the actual product sales page?

      If by "hook" you mean my site's headline, it probably is indeed "awful". Could you give an example of what you would change?

      Now, when you say "If you're good at expository writing, simply describe the problem and offer a solution,", would you suggest (using my site as an example) writing about toenail fungus and why it's so awful, and then mentioning the product (ZetaClear)? It's at the point of "offering a solution" that I get stuck. I don't really know how to present it in a way that will make someone say "Yes, I need this product and I need it NOW!"

      Can you give me some ideas of how to "offer a solution"?

      For example, let's say I've written a few paragraphs about what toenail fungus is, what my experience with it was like, how awful and unsightly it was, etc. Then, it would be time to offer the solution: ZetaClear. But what would I write? My mind draws a blank.

      For example: "After years of burning, disgusting looking toenails and hundreds of dollars spent on useless over-the-counter and prescription products from the drug store, I read about something called ZetaClear. They promised a natural and effective solution to the fungus that had been plaguing me.

      I was skeptical; I thought I'd tried every product on the market, but heck - what did I have to lose? I ordered it, risk free, and tried it out. I didn't notice anything happening at first, but the instructions said to be patient. At least it was easy to apply and it dried fast; I could keep my funky looking nails covered with socks while it worked its magic. Eventually, I noticed that the sore, red skin around my nails was getting lighter and less tender to the touch. I was amazed - but I wasn't holding my breath.

      After a few more weeks, my nails were back to their healthy, normal color and the insane itching had almost completely stopped. The progress continued until one day I looked down and realized that my toenails looked NORMAL. Thank God, because the sun was shining and it was time to hit the beach.

      Look, I've tried every nail fungus product on the market. Most weren't very effective. Other stunk (figuratively AND literally). ZetaClear is the only thing that ever worked for me. I've got a feeling it can work for you, too. Check it out here." (and then I'd put my affiliate link)

      Okay, I whipped that up pretty fast without thinking very hard about it. If that still rates high on the suck-o-meter, please tell me. But if it would make a good closing to a description of the problem and offer a solution in a way that would make someone click and buy, I'd be pleased to know.

      Originally Posted by genhorrall View Post

      Okay I agree that you should make your site a review. You are linking to the sales page...

      I would also change around the order of how you present stuff on your page. I would talk about the nail fungus first. How it makes the prospect feel? Then I would discuss and describe what nail fungus is and how bad it can be.

      Then I would describe the benefits of treating it. I would discuss some of the drawbacks of the other treatments on the market and then I would discuss how wonderful you product is and why it is better. The fact that it is all natural. Safe to use. How easy it is to use, no fuss and lots of waitng for drying of other yucky chemically stuff.

      You get the idea. You are a content writer, but I would say you need to add more there. I think you could do much better with adding more and reviewing instead of just changing your copy. That is just my opinion.

      I hope to not offend. These are just my opinions as I have said.
      No offense taken! Thank you for your thoughts!

      Originally Posted by Alessandro Brunelli View Post

      I would certainly split the text in shorter paragraphs, add some pictures or graphics to have the important text stand out, use checkboxes or colors to highlight the benefits, shorten the reviews using dots... and the important part only... then dots again. Unfortunately this is how I am used to read websites. Unless is a book or a "how to" explanation for which I don't care if it is long and "ugly" looking at all: I need the information. Sales pages, especially of tiny niches such as "the truth about Zeta Clear", should go to the point, be simple. Ideally, a good title, 3-4 points of benefits, 2-3 short testimonials and the affiliate link. That's it. Your page is more an article for ezinearticles.com than a webpage.
      That's my opinion.
      Thanks for sharing that with me. It's interesting that you would liken my page more to an "article" than a webpage. I guess this again reflects my natural writing style; informative, kind of dry, not "in your face" - which is really useful for some things, and not so much for others!

      Originally Posted by Gagz View Post

      I agree with all above great suggestions.

      + Make it appear more authentic and trustworthy.

      Work on your content, optimize it for users so it can be easily readable (use small graphics, headings and points to make content appear good, do not stretch content very long), Increase number of pages in your website, give clear navigation to those pages. And importantly work on "About us" section, Reviews, Testimonials, Address/Form support, Terms etc.
      These are few things which increases the authenticity of website which actually anchorage user to trust and buy displayed product.

      Most of the users investigate about website before making any decision on purchase. So don't ignore it.

      Wish you great success for your website.
      My thanks for your take on my page; it's a bit of a different opinion than what Alessandro had to say (which was to shorten and simplify it), but I see what you mean about improving the site's credibility.

      Originally Posted by Kieran D View Post

      Hi bummed.out,

      I totally agree with Drez in what he said regarding benefits vs features.

      Great copy certainly distinguishes the benefits from the features.

      In my opinion you should always have:
      - Nice big clear bulleted points or green ticks above the fold highlighting the benefits.
      - Then below the fold you can add to the copy/content by adding the features.

      Sometimes (not saying you do) people really get confused between features and benefits.

      The easiest way to distinguish between the two (and most importantly too "nut" it out for your product/service) is to draw two columns on a single sheet of paper.
      1) In the left hand column write the heading "Benefits"
      2) In the right hand column write the heading "Features"

      Now list out a key benefit on the left and next to it (on right hand side) write down the feature that is associated with that key benefit.

      The below is a great link for explaining the difference between benefits and features - many people think they know but deep down they really don't!
      Features Vs. Benefits

      Goodluck with the site!
      Thanks for further explaining "features" vs. "benefits". The link you provided is helpful and something I hadn't really considered before; though I can see how it would play a big role in convincing someone that a product would really help them. Heck, I'm sure that masterful use of this technique has caused me to buy things without even realizing that my buttons are being pushed the right way.
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      Thank you again, everyone! If any of you want to reply further - I'd really like opinions on the example of closing text that I wrote above - or if anyone else cares to chime in, I'd love to hear from you. It seems that the general consensus is to choose one focus (sales or review page), but since my site, by necessity, links to the actual sales page, a one-person review seems to be the best option, right?

      Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Gagz
    I agree with all above great suggestions.

    + Make it appear more authentic and trustworthy.

    Work on your content, optimize it for users so it can be easily readable (use small graphics, headings and points to make content appear good, do not stretch content very long), Increase number of pages in your website, give clear navigation to those pages. And importantly work on "About us" section, Reviews, Testimonials, Address/Form support, Terms etc.
    These are few things which increases the authenticity of website which actually anchorage user to trust and buy displayed product.

    Most of the users investigate about website before making any decision on purchase. So don't ignore it.

    Wish you great success for your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kieran D
    Hi bummed.out,

    I totally agree with Drez in what he said regarding benefits vs features.

    Great copy certainly distinguishes the benefits from the features.

    In my opinion you should always have:
    - Nice big clear bulleted points or green ticks above the fold highlighting the benefits.
    - Then below the fold you can add to the copy/content by adding the features.

    Sometimes (not saying you do) people really get confused between features and benefits.

    The easiest way to distinguish between the two (and most importantly too "nut" it out for your product/service) is to draw two columns on a single sheet of paper.
    1) In the left hand column write the heading "Benefits"
    2) In the right hand column write the heading "Features"

    Now list out a key benefit on the left and next to it (on right hand side) write down the feature that is associated with that key benefit.

    The below is a great link for explaining the difference between benefits and features - many people think they know but deep down they really don't!
    Features Vs. Benefits

    Goodluck with the site!
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  • Profile picture of the author MissLauraCatella
    Other posters have offered up a goldmine of critique in terms of your style and being artful with copy in general. The immediate thing that made your page difficult to read, for me, was the formatting.

    My eye doesn't know where to go first. Make it easy on me, put your headline in red. I see "ZetaClear" in bold so many times on a first glance that I'd assume it was a cold sales page and not a review. Your first line does not relate to me, captivate me, or draw me in further.

    You can write. That's not the issue. When you do copy, I think it works best when you have fun being a salesperson instead of a writer. Then, because of your writing ability, the piece as a whole will really shine.

    This relates to the need to write to the benefits over the features, the end end end end end results. Keep digging further and thinking creatively about benefits. Healthier nails > better looking nails > increased confidence > increased happiness > better success and relationships. Now there's something I really want! Of course, build it gradually and always be BELIEVABLE. Write with and from emotions, you know? It helps to genuinely believe in the benefits of what you're plugging, of course... then think of how you'd tell a friend about this product, and use that as a jumping off point.

    Oh and most importantly, just keep writing. Online pieces are dynamic and immediately changeable. Use that. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mitt Ray
    You have focused on the features instead of the benefits. You need to write everything for your clients instead of just mentioning the features. You also need to write it for the audience. If you look at your copy there are only like three or four you's. You need to put a lot more you's in and make the read feel like it has been written for him or her.
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  • Profile picture of the author brianadrian
    I agree with Bambii. My eyes didn't know where to go at first. The banners on the right seem out of place. It's such a "busy" site. Not a review, not a salespage.

    My advice: Write a killer squeeze page, then with an email follow-up sequence lead your list through a range of emotions as it pertains to their problem. THEN send them to a salespage so they can take action and stop suffering.
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    • Profile picture of the author marciayudkin
      Hi there,

      I am actually a potential customer as I have had this problem for many years.

      You need before and after photos and a timeline for the photos to convince me. The hardest thing about curing this condition is having to use a treatment for many months before you know it's working.

      You also need to play up this as an alternative to drugs.

      I'd rather see a strong promise in the headline.

      When I read the phrase, "directly into your bloodstream," I was mentally out of there. I don't want any substance I am taking not under the direction of a medical doctor going directly into my bloodstream.

      Beware of using the word "scam" because it gets even gullible customers thinking YOU might be scamming them.

      Good luck,
      Marcia Yudkin
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Phoenix
    I agree with the comments of focusing not so much on the product features, but what can that product do for the customer. Here is one example I have heard before. If you are looking to buy an exercise ball to work on getting your abs in shape, you do not want to know all the features of the ball. People will buy when they know what that ball will do for them. For example, buying this ball will create six-pack abs that will have all your friends wanting to know how you did it, will allow you to wear tops that show off your belly button, etc.....you get the idea.
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