Do these sales letters actually work?

by 482722
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I'm admittedly brand new to internet marketing. I've stumbled across these sales letters, landing pages, squeeze pages, whatever you'd like to call them, millions of times before. I must say I know exactly what they are as soon as I see them, and I immediately leave the page. The big red letters, one or two sentences per line, hilighted text, auto-playing sound clips, etc. etc.. It's like an immediate red flag for me.

That being said!

I can't speak for normal people surfing the web. I'm a programmer, web designer, and all around computer nerd. I've been on the net since before Napster.

Do people really fall for these overt and direct sales pitches? Believe me, I'm not knocking them. If they work, they work. I'm just saying I can smell 'em a mile away, and would never bother myself. I always just assume products presented to me this way are a scam.

But do they really turn a profit for you guys? I'm not at all opposed to the idea, I just can't imagine buying from a site like that. But, again, I'm not a normal web surfer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Strong
    Originally Posted by 482722 View Post

    Do people really fall for these overt and direct sales pitches? Believe me, I'm not knocking them. If they work, they work. I'm just saying I can smell 'em a mile away, and would never bother myself. I always just assume products presented to me this way are a scam.
    Let's say you've got a toothache, and you're either unable or unwilling to go to the dentist right away, and you're online looking for a solution to take the pain away as quickly as possible... are you going to avoid any site that has what you're looking for because it has an "overt and direct sales pitch"? Instead you'll spend a few extra hours trying to find someone who hides their order button or makes it difficult for you to order, because they're not being so overt and direct in their sales pitch?
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  • Profile picture of the author MissLauraCatella
    Originally Posted by 482722 View Post

    I always just assume products presented to me this way are a scam.
    Have you been scammed by a site that fits your description before?

    A lot of information products may be called scams because the purchaser loses site of what they are: information products. Information on it's own is nice, but can't often fulfill the promises of the sales page alone. This does not make anything a scam. Information combined with the customer's own action will lead to results, results which may or may not live up to the expectations put forth in the sales letter.

    Oh, and to answer your question, yes, the strategy is very effective and plenty of people make day job slaying income by selling products this way. That said, I'm very interested in the future of the sales letter... how formatting will change to appear less "obvious," how video will be integrated, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author 482722
    Originally Posted by Ken Strong View Post

    Let's say you've got a toothache, and you're either unable or unwilling to go to the dentist right away, and you're online looking for a solution to take the pain away as quickly as possible... are you going to avoid any site that has what you're looking for because it has an "overt and direct sales pitch"? Instead you'll spend a few extra hours trying to find someone who hides their order button or makes it difficult for you to order, because they're not being so overt and direct in their sales pitch?
    Not trying to be a smart ass, but I'd probably go to the doctor's if it was that bad. But I do agree with you, most people looking to buy right now would likely read on. I'm just asking, how well has this method worked for people personally? Is this a better way to do affiliate marketing than spending months and years building an authority site that may or may not succeed? I'm looking for direction here, not bashing tried and true methods. I have zero experience with IM.

    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    Where do you buy from? What makes you feel comfortable when you see a product page?
    Honestly? I don't feel comfortable buying stuff online unless it's from a retailer that I know and trust. But again, I'm not the average person Google-ing things.

    I'm at the point where I'm ready to choose a market, buy a domain, and put something up to sell products. I just want to know if it's better to have a one-page hard sell like I see posted in this section of the forums, or to spend the time and effort becoming an authority on a topic when it could just as easily fail. I'd like to believe these pages work, and I'll bet they do, but from my point of view as an internet veteran, I can say they don't work on me.

    I don't want to waste my time putting up content that doesn't work, and if this type of content makes the sale, I'm sold on using it.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissLauraCatella
      Originally Posted by 482722 View Post

      I'm at the point where I'm ready to choose a market, buy a domain, and put something up to sell products.
      The type of site you have depends on what you're selling. If you're starting up a eCommerce site with your own physical products or a dropshipper, you wouldn't have one sales page. If you're selling a piece of software you created, you may have one sales page specifically for explaining what it does, selling it, and offering up testimonials.

      Once you've chosen your market, do some Google-ing of successful sites in your field and see what models they use. Until then, what works best for you will depend on what you're trying to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
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      Is this a better way to do affiliate marketing than spending months and years building an authority site that may or may not succeed? ...


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      It has nothing to do with whether or not you build an authority site.

      At some point you still have to make a sale.

      Having an authority site is not enough - it builds credibility, however buying is highly emotional act.

      There is way more to it than people believing your stuff is genuine.

      Your sales copy is what bridges the gap between people who trust your information and those who become your customers.
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  • Profile picture of the author DanielleLynnCopy
    It's interesting you say that - I have friends and family who say the same thing.

    But pages like that do convert traffic into sales, which is why top marketers use them over and over again.

    HOWEVER - keep this in mind: the page style and copy style will change depending on the market you're pitching to. For example, if I was pitching to top business executives, I'd use a different type of page/sales copy than I'd use for pitching something to the IM crowd.

    So in short, yes these pages convert to IM traffic. But if you're not into IM, I suspect many sales pages targeted to that market would look a bit hypey
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Originally Posted by 482722 View Post

    But do they really turn a profit for you guys? I'm not at all opposed to the idea, I just can't imagine buying from a site like that. But, again, I'm not a normal web surfer.
    I ask myself the same questions about phishing emails and Nigerian
    scams, but I guess they do work because I still see those emails
    all the time.

    I ask myself why people buy from Macy's what they could get from
    WalMart for a better price--the same products. But people still
    shop Macy's.

    Those letters that should "SCAM" to you work for 1-15% of the
    people who visit them and when they do a profit is returned.

    So these letters do FAIL for the vast MAJORITY of the people who
    visit them--but if you can live with 2-5% conversion they'll work
    for you too.

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  • Profile picture of the author AdwordsMogul
    And to answer your question directly - Yes! They work!
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    • Profile picture of the author 482722
      Thank you everyone for your input. Some very interesting consumer psychology behind these pages! I'm glad to hear they actually do work in some situations. I'll definitely be adding this style of writing to my marketing arsenal in some form or another.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mitt Ray
    It might not interest you or me or millions of others, but there will be a few in those millions who will be interested and will end up buying the product or using the service. It might not get all the customers, but it will be able to attract a few who will help the client make a profit.
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