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Client wants to know if I will "tweak" my sales copy later

by Sebastion
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A client who I quoted a ridiculous low rate to write their sales page, $200, wants to know if I will tweak the page if it doesn't convert, and for how long I will allow her to come back, ie 30 days, 60 days.

What is the norm. I'm not worried about the price as I'm still learning, but pretend she had paid me $3000, what would you say?
#client #copy #sales #tweak
  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I'd work with her some. I might set a limit of tweaks based on a set number of unique vistiors versus actual conversions. I'd first ask her to leave it alone until, say, 500 visitors and no conversions and go from there. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    but pretend she had paid me $3000, what would you say?
    That's a false choice and ludicrous situation. What do you think you should tell her if you regularly got $3,000 and did this for $200. Stop asking us. Start askinng the $3,000 version of you ...which should not be too hard, as we're pretending.

    Because it's just that problem you're going to be facing when you try to dig yourself out ot the $200 hole you're in now.

    And, trust me, at $3,000 -- this would NOT be a question and you wouldn't be here asking Because That Exact Issue Would Be Resolved In The Contract You Two Signed.

    As long as you think $3,000 is just some number somebody picked, you'll be staying at two hundred. Enjoy the unlimited revisions you'll be asked for until you start using contracts correctly. You're about to put up the $2,800 difference yourself; whether you realize that or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sebastion
      Hey thanks. Where can I find a draft of a contract of this type? I've never used a contract.

      I don't plan to write for peanuts for long. Just until I have experience, confidence and a portfolio.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rigmonkey
    Sebastion - As admirable as your efforts are, maybe it's time to take a breather, analyse what your business needs and put provisions into place so that things work more efficiently.

    While you're running rings around yourself, nothing will change. I made the mistake of throwing myself in front of my keyboard, hammering out words for God knows how many hours each day and met every single pitfall along the way. It's by far and away the biggest waste of your own time and while you're chasing the money, things WILL go from bad to worse.

    Stop! Make a list of the problems you've encountered and deal with them. Invest in a proper course and heed the advice of seasoned professionals instead of dealing with issues as they arise. You'll be calmer, more assured and capable of doing your work to a superior standard because of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sebastion
      Thanks man. But I don't know what you are saying. If you are telling me to go to school, recommend your favorite.

      While people are sitting around discussing things, I'm finding answers for real problems, like, how do I get this job to work?

      BTW there is no way I'm doing this gig for $200 now that I've seen this nonsense they are selling.

      Thanks for your advice though.

      Originally Posted by Rigmonkey View Post

      Sebastion - As admirable as your efforts are, maybe it's time to take a breather, analyse what your business needs and put provisions into place so that things work more efficiently.

      While you're running rings around yourself, nothing will change. I made the mistake of throwing myself in front of my keyboard, hammering out words for God knows how many hours each day and met every single pitfall along the way. It's by far and away the biggest waste of your own time and while you're chasing the money, things WILL go from bad to worse.

      Stop! Make a list of the problems you've encountered and deal with them. Invest in a proper course and heed the advice of seasoned professionals instead of dealing with issues as they arise. You'll be calmer, more assured and capable of doing your work to a superior standard because of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThomasOMalley
    The problem with a lot of new copywriters is that they don't do their homework. Read some of the books on how to run a copywriting business by Bob Bly and Steve Slaunwhite and you will find the answer to most of the questions posted in this forum. The newbies are bit too lazy. No wonder they have so many problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sebastion
      Here is the link to the page and video script they want re-written

      http://www.mlmsponsorgenerator dotcom/welcome/

      You know. I'm gonna turn this job down, because I have absolutely no idea what to do here. This all sounds like a bunch of jibberish to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sebastion
      Hey man. Just tell me the books to read. Look at my post count and call me lazy. I'm here. I'm learning. I've already made a thousand bucks writing copy and have two very happy clients. I'll take classes when I need to, but until I can afford one I'm not gonna sit on my ass reading books all day. I'm gonna get clients and write.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sebastion
    I turned the job down. I'll find something I understand until I'm better educated in this area.
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    I'm not going to look at the link.

    a draft of a contract of this type? I've never used a contract.
    That's one of the reasons for the two hundred, a contract is a list of your (bad) experiences -- codified. I have mine. They have theirs.

    You can find what looks to be a decent starting point Here....

    It's in plain English, so do actually read it. And make sure you understand what it is promising to clients. If you bill hourly, change it. This is nice because it explains the terms of the contract as a copywriter would sell a product.

    Communicating with clients is part of any consulting work. Having a reply for every lame excuse and outright fib is part of your toolkit, just like a swipe file.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sebastion
      Hey this is awesome. Thanks a lot.

      Originally Posted by John_S View Post

      I'm not going to look at the link.



      That's one of the reasons for the two hundred, a contract is a list of your (bad) experiences -- codified. I have mine. They have theirs.

      You can find what looks to be a decent starting point Here....

      It's in plain English, so do actually read it. And make sure you understand what it is promising to clients. If you bill hourly, change it. This is nice because it explains the terms of the contract as a copywriter would sell a product.

      Communicating with clients is part of any consulting work. Having a reply for every lame excuse and outright fib is part of your toolkit, just like a swipe file.
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