Drilling down to the slogan

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As I work on my business identity, I am at a point of needing a slogan for my logo. My USP is that of the "emotionally intelligent copywriter". The target market is businesses selling to a conscious market segment (massage therapists, chiropractors, life coaches, and so forth).

The slogans I've come up with are as follows. Let me know if any of them seem better than others:

Profitable copy for the emotionally intelligent market
Copywriting... with a dash of soul
Because what you're selling should never be your soul
Copywriting solutions for conscious business owners


I came up with number 3 after doing considerable research as to what copy solutions life coaches and holistic health counselors were looking for. Overwhelmingly, they expressed hating to feel like used car salesmen. They wanted to connect with their target clients without being too "sales guy in a loud, plaid suit".

Thanks much.
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  • Profile picture of the author RazvanRogoz
    I'm no expert in writing slogans ... not by a long shot.

    But I know a simple formula. I know that your slogan should contain three elements ...

    1) Your mission - Restate the purpose of your service
    2) Your promise - What is the benefit he's going to get
    3) Branding - Pick an adjective that encompasses your business image.

    I've read this some time ago on copyblogger.com and I'm using it ever since.

    The only problem I can see in your slogans is lack of clarity. The internet is not the place to be cute. People want to find a solution fast and if you don't state clearly what you do and what's in it for them, then you've lost them.

    So, make them clearer, follow the three points and you've got yourself a good tag-line / slogan.

    Oh, I've also pulled down the article from Google.

    ...

    Damn, can't post links yet. Just Google "copyblogger tagline".

    Best regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author marciayudkin
    With all due respect to the members of this forum, I don't think you should count our opinions highly. We are not your target market, and a majority of us don't serve your intended market.

    We may have our opinions about your various tag lines, but they are just opinions. What we like isn't really relevant to what your target market will like. At best we can raise issues you need to consider in weighing your options.

    For example, I question whether "conscious" is a good word to use. Some holistic practitioners identify with that word, but many do not. Ditto for "soul."

    I also question whether you should be using the word "copywriting." Members of this board all know what it means but many in your target market definitely do not.

    Good luck,
    Marcia Yudkin
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    • I haven't done the research you have on your target audience.

      But I'm not that keen on "conscious" or "soul"

      Only because it doesn't quite say what you'll do.

      So here's a slogan - to try and "hit" the key emotion.

      Copywriting - For people who care about their customers
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      • Profile picture of the author CopyWriteHer
        I actually really like that, Steve.

        Originally Posted by Steve Copywriter View Post

        I haven't done the research that you have on your target audience.

        But I'm not that keen on "conscious" or "soul"

        Only because it doesn't quite say what you'll do.

        So here's a slogan - to try and "hit" the key emotion.

        Copywriting - For people who care about their customers
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  • Profile picture of the author JimBetrue
    I serve a similar market and the tagline I've been using is: Copywriting that delivers your truth, honors your tribe and inspires action. However, I think that slogans are a very small part of the conversation that enrolls a client into your services. I wonder if they really matter.

    The vast majority of my clients come from face-to-face conversations where we authentically connect on a common interest, or from referrals from someone who I'm connected with. I believe we are way past the age where you can create those 'money shot' type slogans that anyone will care about. Not because the slogans are used, but because that has been overdone for decades. Your market, in particular, requires the connection with you that they're seeking to create with their clients.

    Go meet with them in person around topics that are important to them. A copywriter at a coaching training is the jewel in the room. Go where your ideals clients are already taking action to learn about marketing, connect with them, and then show them how you can take the burden of writing off their shoulders.
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    • Profile picture of the author ARSuarez
      The best advice I can offer... Read "Made To Stick" by the Heath brothers.
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  • Profile picture of the author CopyWriteHer
    Jim, I am currently involved in a study group of holistic practitioners and have found what you said to be very true. I loved your input. Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author Azarna
      I think you might mean "conscientious" rather than "conscious".

      I would personally avoid terms like "emotionally intelligent market" as it sounds so jargonny.

      I do like the simplicity of "
      Copywriting - For people who care about their customers" - says what you are doing and who you are aiming it at. Perhaps not the catchiest slogan ever, but it seems to be on the right path to me.

      I also agree that it needs to be something your target audience understands, so perhaps a few words to explain copywriting, rather than the word itself, might be good.

      I am sure you will have a good market for this.
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      • Profile picture of the author CopyWriteHer
        Thanks Azarna :-) There is actually a term "conscious copywriting" referring to a higher consciousness. Granted, it is one of those terms that only those involved in it really use. The following is along the same lines of "heart-centered entrepreneurs" and so forth.

        I am looking forward to the challenge of bringing the technical aspects of marketing and copywriting to a soulful/holistic/spiritual crowd.



        Originally Posted by Azarna View Post

        I think you might mean "conscientious" rather than "conscious".

        I would personally avoid terms like "emotionally intelligent market" as it sounds so jargonny.

        I do like the simplicity of "
        Copywriting - For people who care about their customers" - says what you are doing and who you are aiming it at. Perhaps not the catchiest slogan ever, but it seems to be on the right path to me.

        I also agree that it needs to be something your target audience understands, so perhaps a few words to explain copywriting, rather than the word itself, might be good.

        I am sure you will have a good market for this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lori Kelly
    Many people confuse the term "copywrite" with "copyright". When I was talking with a few of my customers over the past couple of weeks, this was a topic of discussion. They seemed to think that "writing copy" was more identifiable to people who are not in the IM/copywriting business.
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    Someone from your target audience visits this forum.

    Mike Humphreys owned several successful massage therapy businesses before moving on to become a very successful copywriter.

    He could probably offer you some very helpful advice on dealing with a business owner in that niche.

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    • Profile picture of the author ThomasOMalley
      Get a copy of Barry Callen's Perfect Phrases for Sales and Marketing Copy at amazon.com.

      He has some excellent material on slogans and taglines. I have used it for several of my web sites.

      Best,

      Thomas O'Malley
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  • Profile picture of the author EricMN
    Originally Posted by CopyWriteHer View Post


    I came up with number 3 after doing considerable research as to what copy solutions life coaches and holistic health counselors were looking for. Overwhelmingly, they expressed hating to feel like used car salesmen. They wanted to connect with their target clients without being too "sales guy in a loud, plaid suit".

    Thanks much.

    You should come up with numbers 1-10 using the logic you used here. Research is the most important part, and you've done it and found your answer. Base your slogan on your research.

    I don't really understand the need for a slogan and I usually replace the slogan portion with a quote to get across the point I want to make.

    But if you are going to make one, it seems your target wants something/someone authentic, sincere, and genuine. . . someone who gives a damn. Tell them you do! Then back it up in the copy.

    I find the higher consciousness, spiritual, etc group to really be about 'something more'. It tends to be the power of self, something transcendental, beyond what we can measure. Maybe reflect that in your slogan. Copywriting that is more than just words -- its connecting with people through a message. It's to help, enlighten, educate, and bridge people to those who can help them achieve better living.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    "Copywriting for Evolved Business Owners"
    "Market Your Vision"
    "Selling Your Authentic Vision"
    "Changing the World with Words"
    "Helping Conscious Entrepreneurs Heal the World"

    Conscious Copywriter: Sell Your Vision!

    What's your business name?

    How do you work with clients? (e.g. do you help them dig deeper into their vision so they can more clearly express it to their audience?)

    What are your intended results?

    How do you help conscious entrepreneurs broadcast their visions?

    There are so many components to a tagline that communicates your highest minded intention.

    Get really specific about what you want to achieve and what your clients can expect to receive... then fit it in a sentence or a couple words.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    OOOOH I HATE SLOGANS!!

    Short, sweet and pointless! Figure out what you do that is rare and solves a real problem for your client, and use that as your lure. All this agonizing over a dozen or fewer words that are supposed to encapsulate everything you do is, imo, a waste of time.

    The most irritating issue I have with slogans, just so you get where I'm coming from, is that the minimization of words desired to express your point results in the reduction of your purpose to absurdity. The specific message you wish to get across becomes so generalized it applies to everyone and no one. Simply put, there is no reason for the reader to call you.

    Of course...ask a writer to write...and what happens?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
      Originally Posted by kaniganj View Post

      OOOOH I HATE SLOGANS!!

      Short, sweet and pointless! Figure out what you do that is rare and solves a real problem for your client, and use that as your lure. All this agonizing over a dozen or fewer words that are supposed to encapsulate everything you do is, imo, a waste of time.

      The most irritating issue I have with slogans, just so you get where I'm coming from, is that the minimization of words desired to express your point results in the reduction of your purpose to absurdity. The specific message you wish to get across becomes so generalized it applies to everyone and no one. Simply put, there is no reason for the reader to call you.

      Of course...ask a writer to write...and what happens?
      Wow, that's quite a charge to slogans.

      I respectfully completely disagree with you on that one. Slogans are a HUGE part of a company's brand identity. You can communicate an immense amount of information with hardly any effort because the essence of what you do and what people receive is so clearly formulated.

      Although, I do 100% agree that solving problems is where it's at.

      Again though, if you can't express HOW you solve a problem, nobody will buy it... and you'll end up shipwrecked in the sea of sameness.

      Slogans can do that.

      Which is exactly why you see so many multi-million dollar companies using them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pusateri
    I think your hot-button word is INTEGRITY.

    For people in your market segment, selling can be synonymous with selling out. Tell them you can increase their bottom line and protect their integrity (however they define that) and you will be moving the needle on the relevance meter.

    Then all you have to do is prove it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    Take a look at this list of supposedly high-powered corporate slogans. How may are bland and pointless? "Think different." "Never follow." "I'd walk a mile for a camel." Wow. I'm impressed.</sarcasm> And tons of money was spent developing these gems??

    Alka-Selzter's "I can't believe I ate the whole thing" is the only one which speaks to me. And I was amused by the camera company's "For negative people."

    My point is that by attempting to reduce what you do to a handful of words, you reduce your USP to ridiculous absurdity that applies to nobody in particular.

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  • Profile picture of the author JakeDaly
    Originally Posted by CopyWriteHer View Post

    The slogans I've come up with are as follows. Let me know if any of them seem better than others:

    Profitable copy for the emotionally intelligent market
    Copywriting... with a dash of soul
    Because what you're selling should never be your soul
    Copywriting solutions for conscious business owners
    There's quite a bit of good advice in this thread. If you're still leaning towards using one of these four original choices, though.. "Copywriting.. with a dash of soul" is far and away the best of them. Assuming those looking at your page at least know what copywriting is.. 'a dash of soul' not only lets the reader know that you take it very seriously, but it also separates you from all the sales-pitchy and mediocre copywriters that flood the market with their own trumped-up sales pitches. It actually seems human.

    More than that, it also lets them know you plan to play on emotional intelligence from the get-go.. since you're using a word holistic healers tend to use quite often themselves. And you did it with only five little extra words. Good job!
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  • Profile picture of the author apolwar
    I'm wary of the 'soul' context. Some people could think differently about it.

    Why don't you use health or holistic health promotion?
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    • Profile picture of the author CopyWriteHer
      Good morning, apolwar. While holistic health practitioners are part of the market I want to serve, they are not the entire market. Many non-health/holistic businesses identify as conscious or soulful businesses (another term used is heart-centered), such as:

      • artisan jewelry makers
      • grass roots humanitarian organizations
      • vegan makeup companies
      • village concept marketing coaches
      • organic bedding retailers
      • social movement clothing retailers (think Northern Sun)
      • prosperity coaches
      ... and the list goes on.
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      • Profile picture of the author apolwar
        Originally Posted by CopyWriteHer View Post

        Good morning, apolwar. While holistic health practitioners are part of the market I want to serve, they are not the entire market. Many non-health/holistic businesses identify as conscious or soulful businesses (another term used is heart-centered), such as:

        • artisan jewelry makers
        • grass roots humanitarian organizations
        • vegan makeup companies
        • village concept marketing coaches
        • organic bedding retailers
        • social movement clothing retailers (think Northern Sun)
        • prosperity coaches
        ... and the list goes on.
        I see. And you just want to focus on life coaches and the like? Ok, probably you could use:

        Celebrating Life: Motivational Copywriting at Best

        Life Celebrations through The Works of Inspirational Copywriting
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  • Profile picture of the author John_S
    All these different businesses have a common thread. That thread is they believe in what they sell. And the product or service is merely a vehicle for a larger cause.

    On the copywriting business side, it's considered a mercenary business. Your positioning being against the merc.

    My suggestion for this is essentially 'cult branding.' Copywriting for believers, by a believer -- to futher the cause. This is not my invention, but an actual concept from studying companies with super loyal followers like Apple and Harley Davidson.

    Slogans can come off as superficial. Catchphrases without methodology. Cult branding has some specific techniques like sybolism, inner circle status, Eugene Schwartz belief structure and Seth Godin authenticity, etc. Cult branding has certain desirable results, like word-of-mouth, and high customer lifetime value.

    Basically this give you an 'in' with the target. Much better than "hey, that's a snappy play on words you got there."

    I do not favor sloganeering. I do favor positioning. And I do favor a hook that sums up a raft of specific techniques and benefits for clients. Copywriting for believers by a believer does that. Cause based marketing does that.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThomasOMalley
    When you are creating a website for a service business with a home page, services page, how we work page, bio page, contact us page, etc., an effective tagline is one more opportunity for a selling message.

    If you are creating a microsite or sales letter site, I would not worry about a tagline.

    In short, the value of your tagline depends on the purpose of your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author copyassassin
    Originally Posted by CopyWriteHer View Post

    As I work on my business identity, I am at a point of needing a slogan for my logo.
    Thanks much.
    Here's a couple I came up with. Not great, but I like the intent.

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  • Profile picture of the author abugah
    Just wondering…
    1. Is it possible to quantify the value of a slogan?
    2. And if so how much will yours be worth?
    3. Do copywriters really need slogans?
    4. Would a client care about a slogan or results?
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    • I think Slogans can be good.

      Providing they say - exactly what you want them to.

      They can stick in the clients mind - helping them remember you.

      Reminding them what you'll do for them.

      Or if you really crack it - what the client will do for you.


      Steve


      P.S. My favorite ever slogan was from Nike.

      "Just Do It" - to me it's the ultimate (does everything you want a slogan to achieve).

      Sadly, it seems in the UK they've stopped saying this - and just use the "swoosh" logo.
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      • Profile picture of the author EricMN
        Originally Posted by Steve Copywriter View Post

        I think Slogans can be good.

        Providing they say - exactly what you want them to.

        They can stick in the clients mind - helping them remember you.

        Reminding them what you'll do for them.

        Or if you really crack it - what the client will do for you.


        Steve


        P.S. My favorite ever slogan was from Nike.

        "Just Do It" - to me that was the ultimate slogan.

        Sadly, it seems in the UK they've stopped saying this - and just use the "swoosh" logo.
        I kind of antagonized slogans a tiny bit there at first

        But then I was taking my dog for a walk and started humming a tune myself and all of a sudden found myself saying

        "Ba-da ba ba baaa. . . I'm lovi- DAMNIT"

        Needless to say I could nearly smell the fries before I even reached for my keys to visit the golden arches.


        (Not sure how international that particular ad is, but the jingle is "ba-da ba ba ba, I'm lovin' it" by McDonalds. . . in case I'm stuck talking to a wall here:p)
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        • Profile picture of the author CopyWriteHer
          I think that what happened to you is exactly what a good slogan does. In my opinion, slogans are about expressing the personality of a company as well as the value of it's offerings. They are meant to plant seeds as opposed to inspire action at that very moment.




          Originally Posted by EricMN View Post

          I kind of antagonized slogans a tiny bit there at first

          But then I was taking my dog for a walk and started humming a tune myself and all of a sudden found myself saying

          "Ba-da ba ba baaa. . . I'm lovi- DAMNIT"

          Needless to say I could nearly smell the fries before I even reached for my keys to visit the golden arches.


          (Not sure how international that particular ad is, but the jingle is "ba-da ba ba ba, I'm lovin' it" by McDonalds. . . in case I'm stuck talking to a wall here:p)
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  • Profile picture of the author ButterflyGarden
    Here are some articles that discuss the details of slogan writing. Why certain slogans work and why some don't. You will find these helpful in writing a new slogan.

    A Look at Slogans - A Look at Slogans

    Unique Selling Proposition - Unique Selling Proposition

    Goodluck!
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  • Profile picture of the author kiteg2
    My USP is that of the "emotionally intelligent copywriter"
    I don't get it, isn't your USP supposed to be the most powerful statement you make? Shouldn't your usp be your "slogan"?

    To me, without researching your market, none of them would bring top of mind awareness to me.
    Most people get the USP wrong, find out what it is you want your clients to say about you, and work back from there.
    If you get it right, you won’t need to ask anyone, you will know.
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  • Profile picture of the author kiteg2
    The only way you will know for certain is ask your market, better there than here, we are not your buyers, so our opinion doesn’t count for much.
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    • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
      Selling tangibles is an easier proposition compared to tangibles.

      Using the B.A. method helps greatly...say if selling pizza as an example.

      -------------------------------------
      Fresh Hot Pizza Delivered To Your Door
      In 30 Minutes, Or It's Free
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      B stands for Buyer

      A stands for Advantage

      In the above ad you can see the B.A. in action.

      Software is a little less tangible than pizza,
      but can be demonstrated through look over shoulder video.

      I've sold home owners a service which centered around
      a common and well known problem dealing with contractors.

      A $1,000 payout for non performance was used
      as my B.A.

      Worked so well a larger and better funded competitor
      wasn't able to enter my location as it wanted, so they bought
      me out.

      Having a strong B.A. laser focuses on your ideal buyer...
      not some random group of people.

      Often the whole offer is wrapped up in it too...like Dominoes Pizza was.

      Food for thought.

      Yes pun intended.

      Best,
      Ewen
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