by agc
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Hi everyone... I've been around here a couple years and finally have a (non IM) product released and ready to sell (an Add-In targeting the advanced Excel user market).

I have a full page ad graphic I'll be using to qualify and direct interested buyers... plus a sales/landing page for when they get there.

Now its time for the gut wrenching "feedback check" before I go live in the next couple days.

First, the FULL PAGE AD GRAPHIC:

Then, the SALES PAGE:

All feedback is appreciated!
#feedback #page #sales
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    • Profile picture of the author agc
      Originally Posted by AlexTheKid View Post

      Looks really nice! I'd say elaborate on all the functions a little more though, but overall, looks really nice
      All the functions are fully documented on the product web site... I could pull in the brief description of each function from the Excel headers, but I didn't know if I should make that already long section even longer. And dryer.

      I'll see what I can do with it.

      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author SoCalMarketing
    I see the core elements of many of the sales pages that nudged me to spend money.. If I did not know excel well, I'd be interested...

    Good luck with your product..
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    • Profile picture of the author agc
      Originally Posted by IMnewbie63 View Post

      I see the core elements of many of the sales pages that nudged me to spend money.. If I did not know excel well, I'd be interested...

      Good luck with your product..
      Great feedback. On the one hand, you let me know it has that nudge... on the other hand, you inadvertently let me know I've missed my target market entirely.

      The add in really supercharges Excel, but the more advanced users will get the most out of it.

      It's not really noob friendly, you have be pretty comfy in Excel to get much out of it. Even with instructional videos (which are in production / coming soon), it really gives the most power to the most advanced users.

      I'll go back to work on it and make sure it's clear that it can rocket advanced Excel users to the stratosphere.

      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    The Graphics take up 80 of the real estate north of the fold. You don't even get around to telling the visitor what you have until you mention it in the paragraph in red way below:

    With the Excellic Add-In you get tools that do all this...

    That's a mistake. The visitor knows it has something to do with learning excel but what is it? Oh. It's an add on. Okay. Shrink that cartoon down or simply get rid of it and stick an explaniation right up top.

    The page is cute. Sometime cute works but for it to work here you're going to need to explain what you've got right away and not make your visitors hunt for it or worse, guess. I'd also like to know what the price is. Good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author agc
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      The Graphics take up 80 of the real estate north of the fold. You don't even get around to telling the visitor what you have until you mention it in the paragraph in red way below:

      With the Excellic Add-In you get tools that do all this...

      That's a mistake. The visitor knows it has something to do with learning excel but what is it? Oh. It's an add on. Okay. Shrink that cartoon down or simply get rid of it and stick an explaniation right up top.

      The page is cute. Sometime cute works but for it to work here you're going to need to explain what you've got right away and not make your visitors hunt for it or worse, guess. I'd also like to know what the price is. Good luck.
      I was struggling with how to work the price ($99) in when all I really want is for people to to try it for free. Any suggestions for how to work the price into the copy?

      Thanks for the suggestions.

      My plan is that everyone who takes on the 30 day free trial gets 5 weekly follow up emails... each informational and not sales oriented... each with a video showing a different set of really cool stuff it can do.

      I don't think I really need to hard sell the purchase... I have 30 days to demonstrate/prove the power... and then the trial expires and they have to buy it or disable it. If the add in is useful, they won't want to give it up.
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  • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
    Hi agc,

    I appreciate the light, breezy, even humorous approach. It's original, descriptive and easily readable.

    I'd test it as is.

    However, if you lack the intended sales, I'd be quick to beef up the call to action and be more serious about it in that section. Maybe a "Let's Get Serious for a Moment..." and then launch a "reasons why" benefit-laden restatement.

    Good luck and much success,

    - Rick Duris
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    • Profile picture of the author agc
      Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

      Hi agc,
      However, if you lack the intended sales, I'd be quick to beef up the call to action and be more serious about it in that section. Maybe a "Let's Get Serious for a Moment..." and then launch a "reasons why" benefit-laden restatement.
      Great idea... thanks!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author agc
    Hmm... what if I change the headline:

    Are you ready to go from Excel Hero to Excel SUPER Hero?
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Sigh. This is cornball. The "WARNING" box (originally designed by DaveMiz I believe) has had its day. What does it bring to this? Nothing. Apart from setting the scene for the corny pitch that follows.

    The cartoon is straight out of the Fifties. The whole "Super Hero" thing has been done to death.

    Then you have a block of ten bullets. Too many.

    Then down to the animated arrows - which are past their due date too. Then a free trial thingy followed by...God Almighty! - a zillion ticks cunningly disguised as bullets. I think not.

    Followed by some gay line about strutting around your office in tights and cape.

    "Nothing to lose but everyting (stet) to gain". Vomit.

    But the icing on the Christmas cake has to be this line -
    Your legenday (stet) powers with Excel will overshadow even the stories from the Christmas party.

    Which is almost as good as the Guarantee -
    If you are not 100% ON FIRE and Totally Jazzed, if you are even the slightest bit under-whelmed, if for any reason you decide you aren't completely satisfied, just don't pay for it. It reallty (stet) is just that simple. You have absolutely nothing to lose.
    Dude, I'm not On Fire and Totally Jazzed.
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    • Profile picture of the author agc
      Originally Posted by The Copy Nazi View Post

      Sigh. This is cornball. The "WARNING" box (originally designed by DaveMiz I believe) has had its day. What does it bring to this? Nothing. Apart from setting the scene for the corny pitch that follows.

      The cartoon is straight out of the Fifties. The whole "Super Hero" thing has been done to death.

      Then you have a block of ten bullets. Too many.

      Then down to the animated arrows - which are past their due date too. Then a free trial thingy followed by...God Almighty! - a zillion ticks cunningly disguised as bullets. I think not.

      Followed by some gay line about strutting around your office in tights and cape.

      "Nothing to lose but everyting (stet) to gain". Vomit.

      But the icing on the Christmas cake has to be this line -

      Which is almost as good as the Guarantee - Dude, I'm not On Fire and Totally Jazzed.

      I agree with most of what you said about cornball, and over it presentation. But that's the theme / tone of _this_ pitch so I felt it should be an all in kinda thing. Some of the things that you go ugh about are part of the appeal to a different reader. Myself, I go ugh at the whole thing, but I suspect I am very much in the minority in the marketplace.

      Keep in mind, this is an affiliate sales page for the product, and the product itself is completely separate, and all business. Very clean presentation, fact based, no nonsense.

      The two are completely separate, precisely because the theme of the sales page is a risk, and because I will want to try different campaigns... and other affiliates can also do the same. It might work great. It might be a complete flop. But its just one campaign, and can be tested against other campaigns with different tones, looks, feels, strategies.

      Just out of curiousity, is there a different approach that you think would convert well for this kind of product? What would it be?

      Thanks for the input!
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  • The Excel geeks I know that might be interested in this wouldn't go for the humorous approach.

    They would also want you to get right to it.

    For example, you say:

    Hint: Check out ArrayCompare. If you do any auditing or reconciliation work at all, just that one function will save HOURS of your time EVERY WEEK.

    I suggest showing them exactly what the ArrayCompare does and how that saves time. Maybe do that with a few other functions or examples.

    Testing is everything but why a free trial offer? I would rather sell it straight away at the right price point backed up with an effective sales argument and guarantee.
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    • Profile picture of the author agc
      Originally Posted by Joe Ditzel View Post

      The Excel geeks I know that might be interested in this wouldn't go for the humorous approach.

      They would also want you to get right to it.

      For example, you say:

      Hint: Check out ArrayCompare. If you do any auditing or reconciliation work at all, just that one function will save HOURS of your time EVERY WEEK.

      I suggest showing them exactly what the ArrayCompare does and how that saves time. Maybe do that with a few other functions or examples.

      Testing is everything but why a free trial offer? I would rather sell it straight away at the right price point backed up with an effective sales argument and guarantee.
      The plan is to augment it with some video demonstrations... they just aren't ready yet. I especially want to do some "problem -> solution" videos.

      The plan is also to develop a second campaign with a different tone targeting a different demographic / traffic source. That one will be more traditional corporate focused. I'm not sure which will do better, but it'll be fun finding out through testing.

      Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author RefundHost
    Your two big graphics are cool but taking up too much space.
    Reduce size by 1/2 and move it left so you can put bullets at right
    and then ABOVE THE FOLD you can have the first ( of 3 )
    "100% Risk Free Trial - Download Free " graphics where they
    can see it as soon as they get to the page.

    This looks like a really good product to advertise on work-find sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Azarna
      Correct the typos, they undermine your professionalism.
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      • Profile picture of the author agc
        Originally Posted by Azarna View Post

        Correct the typos, they undermine your professionalism.
        Ah yes, that goes without saying. I guess I should have mentioned that I hadn't done the "print and scrutinize" check yet. Not just typos, but grammar and usage too :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author Azarna
          I will let you off then
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  • Profile picture of the author agc
    I cleaned it up, incorporating many of the suggestions from above. I also wired it up to the product so you can see where it's going.

    Now it's time for testing.

    Thanks everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Serena Atnip
    I am very reluctant at downloading executable files from unkown sites. I think you need to add a screencast demoing the add-in and cut 50% of the bla bla bla.
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  • Profile picture of the author Serena Atnip
    I didn't readt it all, but you need to proofread your copy "Short and simple, the Ecellic"
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    • Profile picture of the author agc
      Originally Posted by Serena Atnip View Post

      I didn't readt it all, but you need to proofread your copy "Short and simple, the Ecellic"
      Fixed, thanks.

      I actually did proof it... TWICE. And that one still got past me. sigh.
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  • Profile picture of the author Micah Medina
    It's lame.

    Add-In or Add-On?

    The first four lines of your copy are cliches. So, you're repeating stuff I've already read dozens of times in dozens of places, basically encouraging my brain to skim this pitch.

    I'm going to be an excel super hero? What does that mean to me, specifically? What do I get out of it?

    The warning sticker is super cheesy. The idea of being indispensable at my job and being crowned king of my office and making my boss come crawling hands and knees for the stuff that only I can do has some appeal.

    Jealous coworkers are a pain in the ass, and hyper-dependent bosses make you do more work while they lay around.

    But let's be honest, there are certain things about Excel that just drive us all nuts. For example...
    Are you sharing a controversial or interesting statement? Are you letting me in on some big secret to get me on your side? Why are we "being honest" now? Were we not being honest before?

    I see what you were going to but you didn't set it up properly, and "Excel is nice" doesn't grab me as a headline anyway.

    Drive us nuts. That's what you've got for me. You want ninety bucks for "drives us nuts". You're supposed to be making some empathy here, be more visual.

    There are some things about Excel that make you want to dig your eyeballs out with a rusty spoon.

    There are some things about Excel that make you bash your face against the keyboard in frustration - and they seem to pop up every single hour.

    But Excel's got massive, time-wasting, enthusiasm destroying problems that get in the way of getting your job done right... or getting it done at all.

    Then you have a block of ten bullets. Too many.
    Yep. And it's just a dry list. How do these things feel?

    OK so I switched metaphors here just bear with me...
    You haven't introduced yourself as the narrator. At first I was reading a sales page, and now some jabroni is apologizing to me for the fact that he can't write well. Immersion broken.

    And when I think "super powers" I think being elevated and free, doing things I never imagined. You're taking that metaphor and telling me to imagine being my B.O.S.S's bitch at lightspeed!

    Weak. Don't remind them that they're downloading a free trial software to become a better flunkie. Tell them it's going to make them the Big Man in the office. And do it quickly, for the most part they just want to know what the software does.

    Don't call your sales pitch corny or talk about value propositions. You're supposed to be turning that part of the brain OFF not ON.

    Short and simple, the Excellic Add-In adds over 70 functions to Excel and opens a whole new world of things you can do with Excel that used to require programmers, calling the IT departmment, or lots of repetitive tedious manual work. The Excellic Add-In is $99, and you get a 30 day trial to try it out for free.
    This paragraph is the first thing I've read that's actually good. Put this further up.

    The great thing is that the Add-In was never really conceived... never really planned. Nobody sat down and said we need to make a product, now what can we make. Rather, it just kind of started naturally when one very impatient developer started creating his own solutions to eliminate the annoying time wasters in his day.
    First of all, you haven't roped me enough to do the personal story yet. Second, once you started the story it wasn't detailed/good enough to make me buy into it. Third, who is writing this? You broke the fourth wall to talk about how your sales pitch sucked (twice), and now I'm reading about a "we", and now I'm reading about "one special developer".

    Pick a narrator and stay with it.

    Also, Excel really sucks at ripping text apart and putting it back to together again. Oh, you can sometimes do it, but try editing a formula with substitute() nested 9 layers deep and you know the agony. If you do any data prep, the string processing in Excellic will save you countless hours. It exposes pretty much the entire .NET string processing library to Excel.
    Okay, this stuff is fine.

    This what we mean by unlocking your Super Hero powers with Excel.
    Cool of you to tell me what we're talking about halfway down the page.

    A SUPER CHARGER, A BLACK BELT, AND CAPE

    You'll have it all. Nearly 80 new functions that will supercharge your Excel prowess. You'll be jamming souped up worksbooks like 'Big Daddy' Don Garlits jams gears. Armed with a Black Belt in Excel, you'll be fully qualified to strut around the office in your tights and cape.
    ugggggh no for so many reasons

    just

    no. please don't do that.

    Overall, you're good when you're just talking real world examples of what the software does, but that Internet Product Marketing cheese you're putting on top is rancid. Get a guy to help you with it or don't do it at all.

    A lot of people are going to look at that page and click off right away.
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  • Profile picture of the author Azarna
    The superhero graphic looks exactly like 'pint-sized' British comedian Ronnie Corbett.
    Google him, you will see what I mean :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author agc
      hehe I never heard of him before, but it kinda does.
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  • Profile picture of the author d1ey0u
    I personally think the image you have at the top of your sales page brings the overall quality down. As suggested, I would get rid of the image and put some product info there.
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  • Profile picture of the author agc
    I'm thinking about trying an editorial page in a news paper theme with a strictly business tone.
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