Whats The Biggest Lesson You Ever Learned About Copywriting?

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Whats the single biggest take away, lesson, etc. You ever discovered about copy?

For me it was really realizing there is virtually no difference between selling to people in person or in print. Its all salesmanship, the only major thing is that you dont have a prospect directly respond to you - so you have to anticipate their objections and questions.

But really that copywriting is salesmanship put into words on paper instead of words coming from your mouth. That they are from the same discipline and its all about psychology, not about the words. What makes people buy comes down to human psychology not down to what words you use. Its the psychology of a sales piece that makes it so successful, not whether or not it uses a specific word.

Once I understood this I understood control ads in a very different way. Suddenly it made sense why they were so successful and how plain vanilla swiping wouldnt cut it. Instead you had to swipe the psychology of the ad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sale
    That copywriting changes with time and that the guru's don't know much.
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  • Profile picture of the author maximus242
    I wouldnt say that they dont know much but if you rely on old information without knowing the proper context of it - it can mislead you.

    Also sometimes people are narrow minded, there are aspects of image advertising that can be brought over to copywriting that a lot of people miss because they are so focused on words instead of the psychology of buying
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  • Profile picture of the author Darion
    For me, it's adaptation. The tactics that worked for some people in one occasion might not necessarily be transferrable. You need to be aware of the different social norms, different psychological mindsets, and even different greetings suitable for your readers. There is no 'one size fits all' guideline that works in every piece of copywriting.

    Of course, it's difficult to learn about adaptability unless you have some practical experience with different scenarios. That's where practice makes perfect!
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  • Profile picture of the author bikramksingh
    You may not reinvent wheel, but you can re-style it, improve it, and re-size it (make it big, make it small, and what not)... that is how you make your content unique...Isn't it what MRF, Dunnlop, and all has been doing with a real wheel (and not the metwphorical one we discussed above)
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  • Profile picture of the author abugah
    Three things:
    1. Words have the power to bring wealth, joy or peace. They also have the capacity to bring destruction and agony.
    2. Copywriting is salesmanship in print and a career in sales is one of the best paying.
    3. Writing is one of the hardest activities a person can undertake.
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  • Profile picture of the author thehorizon
    To do real copywriting, you need to develop from the intrinsic fundamentals. Not the headline, not the subheadline, not the greeting, not the subheadings, not the body, not the PS's, not the bonuses, not the guarantees or anything like that.

    The Attention. You crash their minds with extravagance, surprise, fear.
    The Desire for Proof. You set their inner desires on fire. You set them yearning for it.
    The Arguments. Once you win them little by little, you gain a feet, then a mile on them.
    The Escalation of Interest. You send their hearts thumping, their brains churning, their resistances collapsing.
    The Stimulus. / The "Call to action". You let them decide, and naturally they have already been persuaded. There goes the sale.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kelvinmedia
      Originally Posted by thehorizon View Post

      To do real copywriting, you need to develop from the intrinsic fundamentals. Not the headline, not the subheadline, not the greeting, not the subheadings, not the body, not the PS's, not the bonuses, not the guarantees or anything like that.

      The Attention. You crash their minds with extravagance, surprise, fear.
      The Desire for Proof. You set their inner desires on fire. You set them yearning for it.
      The Arguments. Once you win them little by little, you gain a feet, then a mile on them.
      The Escalation of Interest. You send their hearts thumping, their brains churning, their resistances collapsing.
      The Stimulus. / The "Call to action". You let them decide, and naturally they have already been persuaded. There goes the sale.
      Wow this is short, but it is very useful. Thank you.
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      • Profile picture of the author dbellm
        Benefits. Benefits. Benefits.

        You can never go wrong focusing on what your product/service will really do for your prospect.
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        • Profile picture of the author The Niche Man
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          Your customer should be the first and last person you should be asking and listening to. If not, you're missing an important piece of the puzzle.
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  • Profile picture of the author EricMN
    Don't write like you've tried too hard, even though you have; be genuine.

    Selling something different is a different kind of selling; there's no universal.

    You can't talk to your prospects without a voice; your sale, your take, your angle.


    Edit: I knew everything I posted in this thread before I gave my copy to the copywriters. They taught me these three lessons.

    Thanks, WarriorForum copywriters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jennie Heckel
    The biggest things I have learned about copywriting over the years ~

    Never stop learning about how to write copy...

    Never stop learning about the inner workings of human psychology...

    Never stop researching about the ever changing copywriting field and what is working and what's not... (seems like it changes from day to day sometimes especially in some of the hot markets I write for...)

    And never forget to return to the masters for inspiration when you are stuck.

    I love the old masters, Caples, Schwartz, and all the rest, and many of their old ads -- their tried and tested psychology of selling works as well today as it did 60, 80, 100 or more years ago.

    You hit the nail on the head about digging deeper and finding the "inner psychology" of why a certain piece of copy simply "worked".

    The tough part is... Trying to figure out how they created that special "emotional appeal" that pulled at the heart strings, or kick-started the ego or touched the inner soul of the people who read the copy and then bought.

    The subliminal psychology of selling is not logical and fills an inner desire -- a desire that sometimes the person reading the copy was not even aware of but the copy brought out.

    The old masters were experts at magnifying "a want" and turning it into "a need"!

    It was so much harder to get a sale years ago before the Internet, because people had to fill out a form, write a check and then find an envelope, lick a stamp, and finally mail the darn thing out! (Today's direct mail is simpler with pre-paid postage" and 1-800 numbers!)

    Today we are so spoiled with selling on the Internet and 1 click sales buttons!

    Imagine trying to get past all the resistance of doing direct mail from years ago, versus us just getting a simple mouse click!

    Yes, using the "psychology of selling" is truly an art.

    Few of us are naturally born with this gift, for those who are -- writing copy is easy.

    But for most of us -- we have to work at it and work at it and work at it.

    I know when I look back at copy I wrote when I first started writing years and years ago... I cringe... But we all had to start somewhere...

    And on a bad day when I am stuck it helps to go back and read some great copy I have written. Sometimes just doing that will give me the confidence to get past a stuck point with some tough copy I am working on...)

    We need to remember how far we have come as writers!

    Today, I feel so good inside when I get that email or phone call from a thrilled client when the copy I wrote is selling well. I print that copy out and add the stats I receive to it, and put it in my Master Copy Binder. This is a private success journal that is easy to refer to for inspiration too.

    (So if you haven't made one, you might want to, even if you are just starting out as a copywriter, and it will help boost your confidence!)

    Getting back to the copy from the old masters...

    Sure we need to put a little bit more of today's lingo and spin on the old sales letters from the masters -- that's a given.

    But... When I am stuck with a copywriting project, I take a day and go back through my old copywritiing master swipes. I am always inspired and will find a new angle or idea I can adapt to my current copy I am in a rut with...

    When I read the old swipes... I am almost put in a trance... I know how that old copy from the copywriting masters "gets under my skin". It seems to effortlessly inspire me to know exactly what to do to change what I'm stuck on. I look for the emotional appeal that is in the copy, and try to match it then the words come much easier.

    It just works. Sometimes reading some of the old copy out loud works better for some people, than writing it out by hand which most people do at first. Even typing it out on a computer will work to help inspire you.

    Even after 14 years of writing, I find each day I learn something new I did not know before... so never stop learning... never stop searching... and never give up!
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  • Profile picture of the author BurntOut254
    I learned you can't write copy using a laptop on the beach (unless it's dark.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Internetoholic
    Unfortunately, i'm not a good copywriter but after 2 years in Internet Marketing i realised that Copywriting have all power to bring money to my business. Words extremely affect people.

    First time when i read a sentence "It's not about what you are selling, it's about how you do it" i thought "What a fcuking nonsense!"

    Then... with time... i realised, it's true. I envy people who are talkative and has rich vocabulary because it is road to wealthness.

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  • Profile picture of the author DanielMilstein
    I totally agree with you, maximus242. Copywriting, indeed, is salesmanship put into words. It definitely reflects one's selling skills. One thing I learned before I became a bestselling author and long before Inc Magazine voted my company as one of the fastest growing companies is that it is always important to focus on what you are selling and how it is going to create a value proposition for the customer or target audience. It is indeed very much important to know what it means to a customer.
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  • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
    That you have to sell people what they think they need so the product can deliver what they really need.
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    • If you think the "project" will take 40 hours.

      Book in 80 hours.

      In other words whatever time you think it'll take - double it.

      It stops you being under intense pressure.

      And helps make sure you've got the time for the 28 edits.

      Don't believe you need 28 edits?

      Yea, I felt the same - till I saw the massive improvements in my copy with the dramatic increases in the responses by doing them.

      Alright then maybe it's just me that does 28.

      But at least do a few.


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      • Profile picture of the author Simon Nugam
        For me it was to TEST the copy with actual prospects offline and to also to read it out loud to myself and others.

        Because you want to have a smooth rhythmical congruent flow of words, sentences, paragraphs and the whole copy.

        And reading out loud can make you aware of where the "reader" actually stumbles and you need to make it smooth.

        And, I agree with you Steve, that one should plan for more hours and revisions than one anticipates it would take.
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  • Profile picture of the author Matt Ausin
    It's humbling to admit it but for me it was probably the fact that I really have to learn as much as I can about the target audience. That their reasons for buying, their desires, fears might be different to what I have imagined.

    Once I started to dedicate time to know my audience, my copy got better. Of course you still have to have the basics down (different sales letter formats, psychology, vocabulary, slang, language rhythm and so on), but in my opinion nothing beats knowing your audience. It makes coming up with sales ideas a lot easier.
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