Wanted! Best Warrior Copy Writer

by Joner
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Hi All
I am looking for a sales copy writer for a new site of mine. I am quite a newbie and am learning copywriting, but this site is for a high end product so need someone much more experienced.

I have also used iwriter before which I found quite good, but would like to start working with someone more closely.

Can you please recommend copy writers you have actually used and say how you found their service/cost.
I've tried searching forum for threads about best copy writer etc, but have not yet come up with a list, hence starting new thread.

Thanks in advance

Joner
#copy #wanted #warrior #writer
  • Profile picture of the author Griffin Smith
    Hi Joner,

    This link should help you find what you're looking for.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...directory.html
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    • Profile picture of the author Joner
      Thanks for link, it is certainly a good place for me to start narrowing down my search by fieled of expertise. Only thing is, it seems every man and his dog is a copy writer
      So would still love to hear from people who have had good experiences working with particular copy writers.

      Thanks again

      Joner
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      • Profile picture of the author Raydal
        Originally Posted by Joner View Post

        Thanks for link, it is certainly a good place for me to start narrowing down my search by fieled of expertise. Only thing is, it seems every man and his dog is a copy writer
        So would still love to hear from people who have had good experiences working with particular copy writers.

        Thanks again

        Joner
        I'm confused. You used iWriter to find a copywriter? I thought that
        service was for article writers and they have a lot more writers
        than can be found in the copywriting directory here, so I think that
        your comment about "every man and his dog is a copy writer"
        applies more to iWriter than the WF directory. No?

        -Ray Edwards
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    • Profile picture of the author Joner
      Thanks all for your comments.

      Ray - I was talking a bit tongue in cheek regarding the sheer volume of copy writers in the link Griffin sent. It's a lot of people to go through to find someone.

      Going on the pricing Joe is indicating I think I will need to give it a go myself first and maybe get it re-written once I have made some money from site. $1000 + is way out of my league at the moment.
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      • Profile picture of the author angiecolee
        Originally Posted by Joner View Post

        Thanks all for your comments.

        Ray - I was talking a bit tongue in cheek regarding the sheer volume of copy writers in the link Griffin sent. It's a lot of people to go through to find someone.
        I don't understand why you're so confused that there's so many copywriters listed in the copywriter directory in the copywriting sub-forum.

        Most of us don't work WITH copywriters -- we ARE copywriters. If you're looking for marketers' opinions, you should post in the main forum, or accept that these guys are trying to be helpful without blatantly offering their services or those of a preferred colleague. In other words, they gave you great resources that should hopefully enable you to make up your own mind about who's the best fit.

        Personally, if you don't have time to look through a list, I don't think I've got time for you.
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  • Hi Joner-

    Most copywriters specialize in certain niches. If you share your niche, budget and timetable copywriters will be able to determine if they can help you. The timetable helps because top copywriters are booked well in advance. The budget helps because each copywriter generally works in a different price range, anywhere from below $1000 to $15,000 and up.

    Here is a good example:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...wordsmith.html

    Your candidates will ask you about your traffic, promotion methods, marketing budget, product price point, competitors, positioning, and more. Hope that helps. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Rich
    if you want to hire a copywriter must know first that you want to charge.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ross Bowring
      Originally Posted by The Rich View Post

      if you want to hire a copywriter must know first that you want to charge.
      Thank you, Yoda.

      --- Ross
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  • Joner- check the Warriors for Hire section. There are plenty of Warriors in there offering sales copywriting for way less than $1000. Or check the WSO section. Some top copywriters in there have good deals.

    Copywriting has many different markets and pricing levels just like all services. Copywriters charging thousand of dollars are able to do so because they pull in hundreds of thousands (or millions) of dollars in sales.

    If you decide to handle it yourself, check out some of the books here:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...ooks-ever.html

    You also might consider writing your own letter and then put it up here for critique and feedback. Or pay a copywriter to critique it. Most charge much less for a critique than a full blown letter.

    Keep in mind your copy is only part of the equation. The list and the offer are critical.
    http://ezinearticles.com/?Copywritin...rite&id=115236
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeHumphreys
      Originally Posted by Joe Ditzel View Post

      Joner- check the Warriors for Hire section. There are plenty of Warriors in there offering sales copywriting for way less than $1000. Or check the WSO section. Some top copywriters in there have good deals.
      I would definitely recommend checking out the Warriors For Hire section if your budget is less than $1K.

      One of my mentoring students Ken Hoffman just launched a Warriors for hire deal where if requested, I review what Ken wrote and give him any suggestions (if needed) on making it stronger. You can get the details here:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/warriors...ost-sales.html

      If you decide to handle it yourself, check out some of the books here:
      http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...ooks-ever.html
      This is the route I went many years ago when my budget didn't permit hiring a pro. The upside is you'll learn a very valuable skill that will help you long-term with your online business. The downside is you're investing a chunk of your time to do so. To get really good at writing copy is something that can take months or even years to accomplish.

      The two books I most often recommend are Dan Kennedy's Ultimate Sales Letter and John Caples' Tested Advertising Methods.

      You also might consider writing your own letter and then put it up here for critique and feedback. Or pay a copywriter to critique it. Most charge much less for a critique than a full blown letter.
      Personally, I'd go the route of paying for a full critique. The reason being whatever copywriter I hired for the critique is getting paid for their time and can go much more in depth on how to improve my salesletter. A free critique, you're counting on the kindness and generiousity of a free critique giver. They may not have much time to spend on your free critique (because working for free does not pay their bills). The person giving the advice may or may not have much experience or expertise to be giving accurate advice as well.

      Keep in mind your copy is only part of the equation. The list and the offer are critical.
      http://ezinearticles.com/?Copywritin...rite&id=115236
      Nail the list and the offer then worry about the copy. I've seen countless 5-6 figure product sales achieved with mediocre copy written by the product owner (instead of a pro copywriter) because they nailed down the right target market and made them a compelling offer.

      Hope that helps,

      Mike
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Depends on what you need but Laura is really good: Miss Laura Catella
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  • Profile picture of the author Joner
    Hi Angie
    In my initial post I asked for people to recommend copy writers they have actually used before, but I do really appreciate everybody offering general advice. As mentioned I am a newbie to this, so any advice is great for me.

    Now as to you not having time for me.
    Firstly I didn't ask for your time or comments, that was your choice.
    Secondly if you have not even bothered to read my initial post, then I highly doubt I would want the service you offer.
    If you are only going to leave sarcastic rude comments please don't bother.
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    • Profile picture of the author angiecolee
      Originally Posted by Joner View Post

      Hi Angie
      In my initial post I asked for people to recommend copy writers they have actually used before, but I do really appreciate everybody offering general advice. As mentioned I am a newbie to this, so any advice is great for me.

      Now as to you not having time for me.
      Firstly I didn't ask for your time or comments, that was your choice.
      Secondly if you have not even bothered to read my initial post, then I highly doubt I would want the service you offer.
      If you are only going to leave sarcastic rude comments please don't bother.
      It wasn't meant to be rude - just matter of fact. I didn't call you dumb or insult your integrity, so don't imply that I did. I simply stated that I don't understand why you're confused over so many copywriters in a copywriter directory in a copywriting forum.

      Since you're new, I'll clarify the second part of my statement - since we're copywriters, we tend to write our own stuff. That being said, we know of others who are skilled at certain niches and can usually make recommendations. However, with as little info as what you gave, that's kind of impossible, leading to many people referring you to the copywriter directory so that you could decide what you need. To further clarify - I don't hire other copywriters. I can't make recommendations based on that qualification. Do I know talented copywriters? Sure. I'd rather know what you need them for before I pass along their contact information. Key information like topic, budget, and timeline also help. Had these people (who are taking time out of their schedules to help you) known your budget was under $1000 up front, they probably would have been better able to help you.

      So we're left with my final comment, which could definitely be taken as rude since it was rather blunt. But if you don't have time to do your research, I tend to take that as a sign you don't have time to interact with me. Were I to be your copywriter of choice (obviously I'm not, so we don't have to worry about that), it would be a red flag for me, as would saying "everybody and their dog is a copywriter on that list". I'm all for helping people who've never worked with copywriters before. I have several clients for whom I do just that. But it's all about respect - please don't put down useful resources just because it seems like a lot of work. Sales IS a lot of work, as is finding the right fit for your team.

      Good luck on your first foray into hiring a pro copywriter. Hope it pans out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joner
    Hi Mike
    Thanks for great info.
    I am currently reading Dan Kennedy's book.
    I will head over to Warrior for Hire and see what I can find.

    Regards
    Joner
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  • Profile picture of the author Joner
    Hi All
    Seems I should have given a bit more detail about the copy.
    It is for the real estate niche based around repossession, about 1,000 words and my budget is only around a couple of hundred dollars.

    Jeffels - I'm afraid I'm missing something here! not sure what you mean.

    Kind Regards
    Joner
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    • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
      So, you're...

      ... a newcomer to Internet marketing (which probably means you have no traffic, leads or prospects)...

      ... looking for the best experienced Warrior copywriter (obviously because you want the best possible conversions)...

      ... for a high end product...

      ... and you're in the real estate infoproduct market (a market that's ultra-competitive)...

      ... it's only two pages of copy you're looking for ...

      ... and you have a budget of a couple hundred bucks?

      Did I miss anything?

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      • Profile picture of the author Alex Ceskavich
        Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

        So, you're...

        ... a newcomer to Internet marketing (which probably means you have no traffic, leads or prospects)...

        ... looking for the best experienced Warrior copywriter...

        ... for a high end product...

        ... and you're in the real estate infoproduct market (a market that's ultra-competitive)...

        ... it's only two pages of copy you're looking for ...

        ... and you have a budget of a couple hundred bucks?

        Did I miss anything?

        - Rick Duris
        Lawlz

        - Alex
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        • If anyone needs a great copywriter for a website.

          The good news is - many of us can write you spectacular copy.

          Boosting your response into the stratosphere.

          But...

          If you don't have the traffic - that epic masterpiece of copy...

          Just sits there, all alone, unloved, desperate for readers.

          Please, don't let your copy be abandoned in the wilderness of cyberspace.

          It craves for 1000's and 1000's of eager viewers.

          As soon as it's seen - it has the cutting edge technology - so advanced - it's genetically designed - to fill your bank account with stacks of cash.


          Steve


          P.S. I know... I know... the last paragraph was aimed at WSO'ers - no harm in doing that. These good people can make bundles of cash.
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  • Profile picture of the author loi77
    There are so many great copywriters in WF.

    It's impossible to say who is the best, right guys?
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  • Profile picture of the author Joner
    On Joe's advice I have posted the sales copy I have written for people to critique and rip it apart
    I will then see where I go from there.
    Thankyou all for your comments and advice.
    Below is the link if you are interested in having a look at it.

    http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...ml#post6070345

    Regards
    Joner
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