What is a good rate for Copywriters?

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What would be a comparable rate for a copy writer lets say a 1000 words sales page?



Jvalentin
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  • Profile picture of the author MontelloMarketing
    copywriters don't charge by the word.

    Sales pages go for anything from $1,500 to $60,000.

    A good one can be had for something in the $3K-6K.

    A great one will be more.
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    • Profile picture of the author Christian Sawyer
      Can you give an example of a 60k sales copy...

      -Christian
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      • Profile picture of the author donaldclifton
        Try Chad Thompson at (getsitehelp@gmail.com) I think he'll give you a more reasonable quote, tell him Don Clifton referred you....no I'm not an affiliate and won't get anything for the recommendation...he just did a site reveiw for me and gave me some excellent advice.
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      • Profile picture of the author MontelloMarketing
        Originally Posted by Christian Sawyer View Post

        Can you give an example of a 60k sales copy...

        -Christian
        John Carlton... Clayton Makepeace... guys like that. They write 60K copy.
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      • Profile picture of the author Raydal
        Originally Posted by Christian Sawyer View Post

        Can you give an example of a 60k sales copy...

        -Christian
        Vin has already mentioned some names in the 60K bracket but you
        must understand that these copywriters often have to beat a
        control and these mailings go out to millions of people so the
        investment in a copywriter is really peanuts.

        Plus these copywriters also rake in royalty checks that make the
        60K initial fee minuscule.

        A copywriter's fee will always look big for people who don't know
        how to market. Real marketers know that the money they will
        pocket from a well-written sales letter is just an investment.

        My best and highest-paying clients market several products
        and make back their investment within a few weeks, if not days!

        -Ray Edwards
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        • Profile picture of the author smak
          Hi Raydal

          Can u let me know your fees for copywriting job??
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          • Profile picture of the author Raydal
            Originally Posted by smak View Post

            Hi Raydal

            Can u let me know your fees for copywriting job??

            I don't quote fees until I see the job that needs to be done.
            Giving 'ballpark' figures isn't helpful to either the client or
            me neither.

            You'll have to fill a query and questionnaire at my site before
            I can quote you a fee:

            Copywriter, Web Copywriter, Direct Mail Copywriter

            Thanks,

            -Ray Edwards
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  • Profile picture of the author digitalpimps
    I am in need of a copywriter myself but dont need one of that caliber by any stretch of the imagination. Just a simple to the point sales page would do me fine.
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    • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
      Originally Posted by digitalpimps View Post

      I am in need of a copywriter myself but dont need one of that caliber by any stretch of the imagination. Just a simple to the point sales page would do me fine.
      When you say that you don't need a copywriter in the $1k-$6k range it begs the question... how much do you expect to earn from the copy you want written?

      If it is less than the numbers above, why bother marketing it at all?

      Now, understand -- I realize that many, many Internet marketers are cash poor and not in a position to spend thousands of dollars on ANYTHING.

      That's an economic condition, not an objection.

      But, far too often those new to Internet marketing fail to understand that looking for copywriting on the cheap is neither cheap (because of the opportunity loss) or in your best interest short and long-term.

      Best,

      Brian
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  • Profile picture of the author KatPD
    Copywriters, especially freelancers will charge a fair bit so if you have a budget to stick to you may want to post it on elance or guru.com and people can bid on your project. That way they know upfront what you want to pay and won't bid on it if it is too low for them. You can look at their CV and portfolio before you grant them the project.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Raybould
    Hi Jvalentin,

    Generally when hiring a copywriter, the more you pay, the better the copy.


    So in theory, the more money you pay out, the more money you make, period.


    Sure, you can find a copywriter to fit just about any budget ... but don't expect to be raking in the sales from someone that cost you $500. Sure you could get lucky and find somebody who is on the rise, but I'm pretty sure most copywriters at that range are not going to make you any money.


    You see, copywriting isn't just another thing that needs to be outsourced and done as cheaply as possible.


    If you're building a sales page and you can find quality graphics at cut prices, that's great. ...


    And, if you can find a programmer to put the page together and not cost you the earth, that's great too.


    But your sales copy is different. The words on your sales page have direct impact on how much money you make. The more skilful copywriters are able to squeeze more money out than the regular guys.


    And that's why they're more expensive...it's in direct proportion to your profits. Smart marketers know that, and that's why they're willing to pay a premium for good copy.


    Hope that's useful,


    David
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    • Profile picture of the author Dean Dhuli
      So in theory, the more money you pay out, the more money you make, period.
      That's not ENTIRELY true.

      People who can afford to pay more are usually the more successful marketers.
      They know how to get the maximum out of that copy and also have the
      resources to put that plan in action. That's why they're able to make more
      money out of it.

      If you pay $25,000 to some bigname copywriter... and do absolutely nothing
      with that copy... how much do you think you're gonna make from it?

      ...but don't expect to be raking in the sales from someone that cost you $500.
      When I was just getting started, I wrote copy for a product for about $650.
      That client went on to make six-figures from that copy.

      Like you say, maybe he got lucky. But new copywriters come into the field
      all the time... and if you pick one of them after doing proper research, there's no reason
      why they can't make you money.

      You see, copywriting isn't just another thing that needs to be outsourced and done as cheaply as possible.
      True! But if $500 is all you can afford to spend on a copywriter at this point... and
      you KNOW with certainty that the $500 copywriter can write better copy than you,
      then you should definitely go for him.


      Hope this helps,

      Regards,
      Dean Dhuli.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Raybould
    Hi Dean,

    You're right...I was just trying to illustrate the point that it's generally not best to go with the cheapest copywriter you can find.

    I also had a client make a whole bunch of cash from copy I wrote for something like $500...but the average $500 copywriter isn't going to get results like that, just like the average $650 writer isn't going to get results like you did.

    I think we're all making the same point from different angles...just hire the best writer you possibly can for your budget lol

    David
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    • Profile picture of the author John_S
      Some people are using price to make up for sound judgment. They think a lowball price is "safe."

      Expensive copy starts off cheap.

      My best customers, the same as with others, have been beaten up by experience. I'm not looking to be anyone's first hire -- I'm fine positioning myself as the last you work with because you finally realize price isn't value.

      Price is what you pay. Value is what you get. Cost is what you really pay on the way to realizing value.

      My fee is expensive ....until you compare it to the lost sales and expense of several previous poor to middling copywriters. Then what I charge is real reasonable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hugh Thyer
    Another suggestion is to take on a good copywriter at the less expensive end ($1k-$2k) and if it converts and is making you money, pay a higher end copywriter for a rewrite.

    This way you wont blow your money on copy for something that wont sell, and you can reinvest your money into higher quality copy later on.

    If the less expensive writers might get you 3% conversion, the more expensive ones might get you 5%, and that difference is worth a lot of money on the right product. But if the less expensive writers dont convert, odds are the more expensive writers wont convert either (assuming you pick good writers each time).
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    • Profile picture of the author Kyle Tully
      Originally Posted by Hugh Thyer View Post

      Another suggestion is to take on a good copywriter at the less expensive end ($1k-$2k) and if it converts and is making you money, pay a higher end copywriter for a rewrite.
      Many good copywriters I know, myself included, charge the same for a rewrite as a brand new salesletter.

      Why?

      Because, contrary to popular belief, there aren't that many super-secret-ninja-tweaks you can make to an average salesletter to turn it into a great salesletter. Great salesletters start at the research stage, so unless the average copy has hit the right appeal from the start, you're looking at a MAJOR rewrite.

      Yes, you can definitely improve average copy with some tweaks, but you're not often going to get a great letter without starting from scratch.
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    • Profile picture of the author MontelloMarketing
      Originally Posted by webcontentservices.ll View Post

      I can provide content at 5$-10$ depending upon the requirements..I really have no idea what people are talking in 'Ks' above here..try me if you want..not a bad idea to get a closer look to the best deal available..
      Um... true... you don't know what people are talking about. That's because content is not copywriting. My god I'm getting so tired of this.

      Sure... ten bucks is good to fill up a webpage with words somewhat related to the topic. THAT IS NOT COPYWRITING.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dean Dhuli
    My god I'm getting so tired of this.
    Dude just ignore them.

    Great salesletters start at the research stage, so unless the average copy has hit the right appeal from the start, you're looking at a MAJOR rewrite.
    True!

    Many times people think that a new set of headlines and/or opening lead will do.
    But to arrive at this new headline we have to research the market and product
    again.

    With a change in the lead, the flow pattern in the copy could change. We'll have
    to rewrite/change parts of the body copy.

    One thing leads to another, and we end up writing the entire copy from scratch.
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    • Profile picture of the author mr.steve
      Originally Posted by digitalpimps View Post

      I am in need of a copywriter
      myself but dont need one of that caliber by any stretch
      of the imagination. Just a simple to the point sales page
      would do me fine.
      Does that mean you're not looking for a 60K copywriter?
      Or you're not looking for a 1K copywriter? Less than 60K,
      and you'll still do OK... Anything less than 3K, keep your
      fingers crossed and hold on to your rabbit's foot...And don't
      check your bank balance with eager expectation...

      Originally Posted by MontelloMarketing View Post

      Um... true... you don't
      know what people are talking about. That's because content
      is not copywriting. My god I'm getting so tired of this.

      Sure... ten bucks is good to fill up a webpage with words
      somewhat related to the topic. THAT IS NOT COPYWRITING.
      That's funny.

      Mr Steve
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