I need my copy reviewed by a pro

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OK, so I am looking to have my copy reviewed by a professional copywriter if you would be willing to help I would GREATLY appreciate it.

Let me know www.topxreps.com is my link.

no links are active on it.

Thanks.

P.S.

I think the copy might be too long
#copy #pro #reviewed
  • Profile picture of the author DavidG
    Give more details about who it is you are targeting, and such because your copy seems to be newbie oriented.


    David
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    You lose me at the spammy-sounding headline. And the dodgy-looking earnings screenshots. And the clumsy copy that shows you selling from your heels. Massive fail all round. Not even the WSO mob will fall for this. It reeks of desperation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
    Are there other industries where people routinely say, "I need <blank> done by a professional <blanker>." and what they really mean is, "I want <blank> done by a professional <blanker> for FREE"?

    Oh, while we're on the subject, I need my pool re-tiled and plastered for free.
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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
      Originally Posted by Bruce Wedding View Post

      Are there other industries where people routinely say, "I need <blank> done by a professional <blanker>." and what they really mean is, "I want <blank> done by a professional <blanker> for FREE"?

      Oh, while we're on the subject, I need my pool re-tiled and plastered for free.
      Yeah, most of the time consultations are free in most industries these days.

      You know:

      Free estimates

      Free evaluations

      Etc...

      I asked for a review. I didn't ask anyone to write it, feel free to send offers to my pm box if you want.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Theriot
    My reviews aren't free, but they take me 4 hours to do, where I read, re-read, then read again, then think, re-think, think again, then take a lot of notes. Then I sleep, then wake up re-read, take more notes, then record an hour-long (on average) in-depth discussion of the the errors in the letter, anything that may be missing, and of course, detailed instructions on how to fix the problems.

    I don't do the fixes as part of the review, that's a separate service. But I have plenty of happy clients with my professional reviews. Let me know if you are interested.

    BTW, my free estimate is - "It has some problems, and could use some work. I can definitely help. Let's talk about booking some time and I can go into a lot more detail."
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
    Feeble "surprise encounter with random stranger who reveals the $ secret" pitch.

    /review
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  • Profile picture of the author maximus242
    I think your copy gets better as you read. Probably should get rid of the first part. I think you have the wrong angle. Doing something closer to how you went from failure to success and making that the theme of your ad is probably more powerful to warrior type readers.

    Also your copy kind of implies you basically screw the p*ss out of affiliates for your own gain, which while interesting, is also kind of evil
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    • Profile picture of the author Doceye
      Here we go again. The "Entitlement Generation" is upset they didn't get what they wanted. Hurry, give it to them before their precious self-esteem gets dinged.

      Sheesh.

      And I got news for you, bucko ... ain't nothing free in this world. And if it is, it ain't worth much.

      Ass, gas, or grass ... no one rides for free.
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      • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
        Originally Posted by Doceye View Post

        Here we go again. The "Entitlement Generation" is upset they didn't get what they wanted. Hurry, give it to them before their precious self-esteem gets dinged.

        Sheesh.

        And I got news for you, bucko ... ain't nothing free in this world. And if it is, it ain't worth much.

        Ass, gas, or grass ... no one rides for free.
        Last time I check I thought this was a forum where fellow warriors share, help and converse about our experiences, goals and methods.

        If you don't want to review or help that is perfectly fine. Just pass in this thread.

        And as far as my self esteem don't worry about that rip my copy to shreds that's why I posted it.
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        • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
          Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

          Last time I check I thought this was a forum where fellow warriors share, help and converse about our experiences, goals and methods.
          The charter for this sub-forum is clearly displayed below the link you click to get here. As a reminder...

          This section is for the discussion of Copywriting - the most vital skill you can learn. Arm yourself with the power to move people with words and you'll need little else to make money any time and anywhere you choose.
          The discussion of copywriting. It doesn't say anything about free reviews and critiques, though that's never stopped a dozen people a week like yourself, from requesting them.

          In any event, I'm glad to see you're getting some "expert" help.
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          • Profile picture of the author 0oo0
            Originally Posted by Bruce Wedding View Post

            The charter for this sub-forum is clearly displayed below the link you click to get here. As a reminder...



            The discussion of copywriting. It doesn't say anything about free reviews and critiques, though that's never stopped a dozen people a week like yourself, from requesting them.

            In any event, I'm glad to see you're getting some "expert" help.

            Seeing that this is the copywriting section and right at the top of this section there is a sticky:

            http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...-critique.html

            One could easily come to the conclusion that this is the best place to ask such question.

            Which is also why I'd guess most other people ask as well.

            And like he said before, anyone can feel free to pass right over this thread and not give any input if they wish.
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            • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
              Originally Posted by 0oo0 View Post

              Seeing that this is the copywriting section and right at the top of this section there is a sticky:

              http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...-critique.html

              One could easily come to the conclusion that this is the best place to ask such question.

              Which is also why I'd guess most other people ask as well.

              And like he said before, anyone can feel free to pass right over this thread and not give any input if they wish.
              That sticky was put there in response to all the clueless requests we got for critiques.

              As for passing over the thread, it's more fun to come in and pop off.
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              • Profile picture of the author Pusateri
                Sure would be nice to see someone selling a physical product from time to time.

                Sorry...feeling nostalgic for actual things.

                To the OP, go buy ONE of the books in the first post of Top Copywriting Books... Ever sticky and read it.

                Then take what you learn and perform an autopsy on your sales letter.

                It's a far more efficient way to learn than asking for critiques in this forum.
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                • Profile picture of the author SpikeS
                  Originally Posted by Pusateri View Post

                  Sure would be nice to see someone selling a physical product from time to time.

                  Sorry...feeling nostalgic for actual things.

                  To the OP, go buy ONE of the books in the first post of Top Copywriting Books... Ever sticky and read it.

                  Then take what you learn and perform an autopsy on your sales letter.

                  It's a far more efficient way to learn than asking for critiques in this forum.
                  Lol I'm about to embark on selling a physical product in a niche that is over run with digital "products". Maybe it's the oldie in me but I see more value in a "box o stuff"
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  • Profile picture of the author Bigfoot1
    The first part was very generic. I liked the middle part though, had me interested. If you could fix the first part you would do a lot better as thats where people will lose their attention on this sales copy.
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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
      Originally Posted by Bigfoot1 View Post

      The first part was very generic. I liked the middle part though, had me interested. If you could fix the first part you would do a lot better as thats where people will lose their attention on this sales copy.
      When you say the first part do you mean before I get to my personal story?
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      • Profile picture of the author Bigfoot1
        Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

        When you say the first part do you mean before I get to my personal story?
        Yes. That part was very generic and like other WSO's. I think most people will be turned off at that part.

        The personal part was what I liked more.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    It's loaded with hype and marginally believable claims, which make it the near perfect WSO. The only problem is it's way too long. Cut it by 2/3 leaving the most outrageous stuff in and you probably have a winner.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    Not only is the whole thing a painfully obvious lie, it's not even entertaining.

    Plus the FTC would have a field day with this.

    Go ahead, tell me it's actually all true and that I don't know anything and you're a super-successful marketer which is why you're posting this for a free critique instead of outsourcing it.

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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas Michal
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      posting this for a free critique instead of outsourcing it.

      -Daniel
      I want to develop copywriting skills, I didn't know successful people couldn't learn new skills.

      I'll make sure to tell my partner to quit learning programming too then because he's too successful...
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      • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
        Originally Posted by Thomas Michal View Post

        I want to develop copywriting skills, I didn't know successful people couldn't learn new skills.

        I'll make sure to tell my partner to quit learning programming too then because he's too successful...
        Think you have missed Daniels point.

        Everyone in any field should continue learning. Sports Stars on tens of millions still train and have coaching.

        So yes you should always continue learning and improving your Copywriting skills if you wish to be a Copywriter.

        What he is referring to is that you are a liar. Your claims are totally made up.

        You made $6000 odd in 5 days and $15000 in another 10 days.

        So hire a coach to teach you if it is true.

        The whole thing from start to finish sounds made up rubbish to me.

        And if it is not made up rubbish what does that tell you about your skills?

        They are appalling.

        So use your money if you have it and pay someone a couple of grand to coach you.

        Shouldn't be a problem for you should it?

        Dan
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  • Profile picture of the author 0oo0
    OK so I am not a CW but I think the story is pretty good like others have said the beginning is a little cliche.

    And when it come to what other people are telling you I'd be careful for example the guy above me in the previous thread said

    That aside I'm sure someone will chime in who knows about Copy though
    So make sure you only take advice from quality references that do know copy and copy in your niche.

    It's about what your market wants not what other people think your market wants. So if possible talk to someone in your niche that is a CW.

    just my $0.02
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  • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
    personally, this kind of letter goes against everything I believe to be good copy.

    It reeks of hype... which basically just turns people off these days... even those who buy into the hype.

    i'd scap it and start over.

    i mean, just in the first couple of paragraphs...
    i see...

    you should consider yourself lucky.

    you have never been in a better place.

    you must download this right now

    if you don't download this right now.

    you could miss out on the most important
    money making opportunity you've ever had in
    life.

    thank goodness you found this while it's still up

    All all of this is still in the first few paragraphs.

    this is what John Carlton calls "needing to clear
    your throat" copy... meaning you simply scratch
    that entire first part and start your letter with "
    I was desperate with no job"

    this is the exact kind of copy that rookies think
    will sell... and a pro will see it and smile because they
    know they could write a letter that would crush that
    and put you out of business.

    just my 2 cents.

    in fact, check out kelly felix and his recent rewrite of
    bring the fresh, you'll see how he wrote brilliant copy,
    in the money making niche, without the need to hype it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce Wedding
      Originally Posted by shawnlebrun View Post

      in fact, check out kelly felix and his recent rewrite of
      bring the fresh, you'll see how he wrote brilliant copy,
      in the money making niche, without the need to hype it.
      Yep, he did a great job on that one. Of course, he IS the real deal and it's so much easier to write the truth
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  • Profile picture of the author SpikeS
    Im no "pro" but have written a successful sales letter or two, so take this as you wish.

    -headline isn't good. I'd stick to some of the "tried and true" type formulas I.e "who else wants....?" or maybe "how to..."

    -you start the letter really weak. I didn't want to read it really. I saw a Bill Glazer DVD where he said he always uses the "If....then..." method of starting a letter. So I did too, and it works. Having studied letters written by "pros" I see it's used a lot. Example for you would be, instead of what you wrote, write "if you want to discover the methods that real people make real money online, then this letter may be the most important thing you read today". That's not great, but you get the idea. I think Glazer may have got that from Halbert, btw.

    -it seems to me, you spend too long setting out the problem. Your "story", if true, could be a good one. Just needs to be shorter & punchier IMO.

    -your sub-headlines don't flow with the rest of the text. I realized the importance of this after handwriting out sales letters written by yank silver etc. the headlines should flow with the rest of the text which makes it easy to read.

    I didn't get far enough to see your offer. so cant comment on that.

    you can get. Some brilliant copywriting guidance from either the ultimate sales letter book or even signing up for Kennedys "most incredible free gift ever".

    Other than that I'd really recommend reading & hand writing out sales letters you know have worked well. Don't ask me why, but it helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author uniqueas
    You lost me at "testers needed". I wouldn't be interested in paying for a system that requires "testing". The rest of it was fairly generic - sub par at best - and not very believable/convincing. Did you mirror someone else's copy?
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