Signs you're a wannabe copywriter

by deezn
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I know this has probably been done before, but after an evening reading Ultimate Sales Letter, and Bly's Copywriter Handbook and writing out 20 headlines for an ad I'm trying (first ad ever! for my own business) I get a text from my friend.

Background: I've assembled a failproof method to cook the perfect steak. I didn't invent it, just put a few different concepts together. Anyway, taught a friend how to do it and he cooked last night for a few people. Today he sends me a text message and all it says:

"They loved it so much, they called me the next day to tell me."

That's all the message said. Reading that, I thought, "hmm that sounds like a Headline for an ad!"

Then I caught myself and had a nice chuckle. It would be cool if I can use that one day in an ad.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThomasOMalley
    If you think that would be a good headline, you need to read more copywriting books.
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    • Profile picture of the author deezn
      Originally Posted by ThomasOMalley View Post

      If you think that would be a good headline, you need to read more copywriting books.
      Don't think that would be a good headline, just thought, it sounds like a headline.

      Two weeks ago, I didn't think like that.

      It would be cool to use something similar just because it's something someone sent to me but of course it would have to make sense and be effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author maximus242
    Could work definatly work if you used that as a testimonial based headline. Its a great proof element
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  • Profile picture of the author RockyRasakith
    Nothing wrong with being a wannabe because I think it provides a lot of room for personal development. It's the 'experts' who think they know it all and refuse to open their minds to new ideas that really get me heated.

    Anyway, the headline isn't complete. A more complete one would be explain more, like what was it that caused them to call you the next day and tell you. In that case, you would want to explain your case about the steak.

    "I've Discovered A Failproof Method For Cooking the Perfect Steak, Your Friends Will Love it So Much They'll Probably Call You the Next Day Just To Tell You About It"

    Hope that helps and you can use that free of charge. (or maybe just cook me a steak one day)
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    • Profile picture of the author videolover7
      Originally Posted by RockyRasakith View Post

      It's the 'experts' who think they know it all and refuse to open their minds to new ideas that really get me heated.
      It's basic human nature... people don't like leaving their comfort zone.

      Not worth getting upset over IMO.

      VL
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  • Profile picture of the author MrElectric
    So what's the failproof method for cooking the perfect steak?
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    • Profile picture of the author RockyRasakith
      Originally Posted by MrElectric View Post

      So what's the failproof method for cooking the perfect steak?
      He probably wants to sell that to you.
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      • Profile picture of the author deezn
        Originally Posted by MrElectric View Post

        So what's the failproof method for cooking the perfect steak?
        Originally Posted by RockyRasakith View Post

        He probably wants to sell that to you.
        No I don't want to sell it to you.

        I'm an attorney. My transaction size for each client is $x,xxx - xxx,xxx.

        Selling steak recipes would be a waste of my time. I do plan on doing a food blog, and putting it there. But I won't try to sell it it'll be free on the site. It's a hobby blog. Might be good exercise though, but no I won't be doing any of that.

        Like I said, I didn't invent it. After testing many different methods, I found two separate ones, combined them one day and voila, damn good steak.

        It's basically a pre-salt and a reverse sear.

        You can google either of those to find out more (or PM me, I have a word document of what I wrote to a list serve of 3,000 lawyers).

        Basically pre-salt. Salt your steaks 1 hr before cooking. If you watch your steak, the salt will draw moisture out, your steak will get wet, then ... magically ... the meat draws the moisture back in. But this time, the moisture is full of salt. So you change the phsyical nature of the meat fibers, and introduce a little salt to the inside. Thick bland steaks all of a sudden are now seasoned almost to the middle.

        Set up a timelapse on a steak and set it for an hour and watch it.

        Second, is a reverse sear. You dry the steak thoroughly with a paper towel, then cook in an oven at 250-275F until a probe inserted in the middle reaches 95F (for medium rare, and if you cook it past medium rare I don't know you ... j/k my wife likes her steaks medium too).

        While it is about to hit 95F get a nice cast iron or stainless steel skillet. It needs to be heavy none of that steel super thin crap you can almost bend in the middle. Aluminum, copper or cast iron please. Nonstick surface is ok.

        Put it on your range to medium to medium hot. I tend to the hot side, but not too hot. This is where only you will know what to set it to depending on your pan, your stove. This probably the only variable here because my range/flame/skillet is different than yours. You'll get a great steak regardless, but once you fine tune this, you'll get excellent steaks.

        You'll notice when pulling the steak out of the oven it should look dry like a desert. That's a good thing.

        Ok, heat the pan up, for a minimum of 5 minutes (even if non-stick but watch the nonstick pans much closer due to the breakdown of the surface at high temps). In the case of cast iron or alu-clad, you can heat longer. once your the probe in the steak in the oven hits 95F immediately pull it out and drop it into the pan. 1.5 minutes each side. Depending on what steak you use* a little oil may be necessary (strips and filet mignons may require oil, ribeyes probably not ... those are the only three steaks I cook usually, no top sirloins etc., but tri-tips, skirts and flat irons are ok to eat, but not cook this way).

        I repeat, once you hit 95F in the steak, you pull it out, put it in a medium hot pan, and you cook for 1.5 minutes each side.

        Let it rest for 5-10 minutes (closer to 10) and that's it.

        Why go through all of this trouble? Sure i cook steaks 4 minutes over high heat, then move to low heat to finish cooking. It works. But, it's not great. Next time you do that, look at the steak when you cut it and I can almost guarantee you will have a narrow (or thick) band of gray matter between the surface and the center. That stuff is tough. My method, minimizes and almost eliminates this gray matter. It also does a ton of other stuff but that's food chemistry at that point.

        Warriorforum is all about proof, right?



        I need to take a better picture next time. Any photographers will know my white balance was messed up with that one, the steak is actually a little more red than that, not pink. But that's the method!

        Whoever tries it, enjoy!
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        • Profile picture of the author RockyRasakith
          Originally Posted by deeznuts View Post


          Warriorforum is all about proof, right?



          Whoever tries it, enjoy!
          Now that is beautiful! Thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    It does sound a lot like a headline... and I definitely resonate with your story. Soon you'll be seeing that stuff everywhere.

    I'm just fortunate my girlfriend is also an amazing copywriter, otherwise she probably would have killed me by now (since I never shut up about it).

    Also... that is a wonderful looking steak. I'm going to try it out for the 4th of July.

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  • Profile picture of the author MrElectric
    Thanks for the steak tip, I'm going to have to print this out!
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    • Profile picture of the author deezn
      Originally Posted by MrElectric View Post

      Thanks for the steak tip, I'm going to have to print this out!
      PM me if you want the complete write up. There is nothing new, just the science/chemistry behind it. If you're into that. If not, everything there is complete

      Ross,

      That's what I was thinking. It's incomplete because while I think there is a benefit, you have no idea what the hell the ad would be about.

      Adding something specific about the steak recipe would help I think. NOw, again, I'm no copywriter, and I'm not saying the following would be a good headline, but perhaps something like

      "I used your recipe to cook steaks for my friends.
      They loved it so much, they called me the next day to tell me."

      Again, not saying ^^^ is any good. But I would think I'd have to add something to it to let the reader know what it was all about. Perhaps using it has a subhead or first sentence makes more sense.
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      • Profile picture of the author maximus242
        Originally Posted by deeznuts View Post

        PM me if you want the complete write up. There is nothing new, just the science/chemistry behind it. If you're into that. If not, everything there is complete

        Ross,

        That's what I was thinking. It's incomplete because while I think there is a benefit, you have no idea what the hell the ad would be about.

        Adding something specific about the steak recipe would help I think. NOw, again, I'm no copywriter, and I'm not saying the following would be a good headline, but perhaps something like

        "I used your recipe to cook steaks for my friends.
        They loved it so much, they called me the next day to tell me."

        Again, not saying ^^^ is any good. But I would think I'd have to add something to it to let the reader know what it was all about. Perhaps using it has a subhead or first sentence makes more sense.
        Yes you can use that. Many copywriters such as the great Gary Bencivenga have used testimonials as headlines with stunning results.

        Then you can start off your copy telling the story of the man in the testimonial, how he was searching for the perfect steak, found your recipe, the phenomenal results. Then talk about your credibility and expertise, the USP, and benefits of your recipe. Then you can compare and contrast the value of the steak vs a 5 star restaurant in new york, ask them what it is worth to them to have a perfect steak every time.

        Then finally close.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Bowring
    I love testimonial headlines and/or testimonial first sentences.

    So, you do have something there. And you'll find the more you read and work and get better... the more you'll see "copy" everywhere you look and listen.

    --- Ross
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    The thing about an idea like that is you WANT to like it, and you WANT it to work.

    Sometimes, you figure out how to make it work...

    But a lot of the time you end up running around in circles until you scrap the thing and try something else.

    Just a related tip, since we're talking about headlines.

    -Daniel
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