Innovation in Direct Marketing Copywriting

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Happy Monday everyone...

Over the past few months, I've been studying a lot of the online resources of Carlton, Kennedy, Sugarman, Halbert, etc....Lots of the stuff I've found through resources here on WF and doing online research. Over the weekend I picked up a hard copy of Ultimate Sales Letter and have been studying in depth. A few thoughts keep recurring as I've been doing my research, and they are even more pronounced as I get deeper into Kennedy's book.

One question I wanted to pose to the forum for the experienced copywriters...from a technique standpoint, it doesn't seem much in the way of direct marketing copywriting has changed in 20-30 years. Many of the letters included in Kennedy's book and many shared here on the forum are decades old. And these are the same techniques being used today...In fact, it seems the recycling of many of these same ideas and theories has resulted in the sales letter style and format being basically unchanged since these guys first revolutionized direct mail marketing nearly 40 years ago. Kennedy states specifically in his book -- Don't be creative in your execution. These ideas are what works. Use these same premises, hooks, and concepts in your own writing. Of course the real effectiveness of a sales letter comes from the research and knowledge you must have of a client's target market and how your client's product or service can help them. Which is basic salesmanship.

But when I see the same style, approach, tone, of sales letters in 2012 as the same letters I'd see when I was a kid 20 years ago, I have to ask some questions....

Haven't consumers become immune to these sales methods? I mean, I have the most recent edition of USL, and Kennedy is still talking about how effective it is to use the Post-It note method of "Hey, thought you'd want to see this -- J." Don't people know by now that there is no "J," and thus dismiss the credibility of the marketing material straight away? A lot of the selling technique revolves around a "hard sell," -- Kennedy actually discusses the value of "intimidation" in sales letters as it's "what experienced salespeople have used for years." But over the past 20 years or so, haven't consumers as a whole become turned off by the "hard sell?"

When I spent 13 years in face to face, business to business sales, we went through countless yearly seminars and training for the next "big" sales process or technique. Of course they were all variations on the same ideas. Discover problems. Probe deeper for the hidden effects of such problems. Reveal your service in a way that specifically caters to those problems and then get the prospect to identify with your company as the answer to their problems. Ask for the sale. If you don't get it, you didn't ask the right questions. Never were we taught any tricks or gimmicks that you'd see in the 60s, 70s, 80s of direct sales. We were taught that the culture of buying had changed, and so we used a consultative approach to solving problems.

Now I know you don't have the luxury of asking questions and probing in sales letters. That sales approach doesn't translate into copy.

But if we can all agree that the consumer's approach to buying and sales in general has changed over the past 20 years or so, hasn't direct marketing copy evolved in any way to address that?

I know the time tested techniques work. I know many on the board will say, "well, these techniques make my clients millions of dollars right here in 2012."

But I'd be remiss not to ask if there's been any real change in the DM approach, especially over the past 10 years or so as the population demographic has changed so rapidly. I frequently read things like, "these techniques will ALWAYS work," but won't there be a point where the diminishing returns of those techniques will force copywriters to adopt a different approach?

As a disclaimer, I realize that these techniques DO work, and I have no intention of reinventing the wheel with my copywriting. But when I look at some successful samples -- many of them decades old -- I do ask myself, "wow, do people really still fall for this stuff?"

Jeremey
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    Jeremy,

    Great post.

    Here's my thoughts...

    There are two sides to this. On one hand, human psychology hasn't changed over the last hundred years and won't any time soon. We're still working on fight or flight responses drilled into us millions of years ago.

    So selling by fear (aka intimidation, in some ways) still works. Fear of loss still works. Curiosity still works. Etc, etc.

    But people also love what's new and different. If you want proof of that, look at the weight loss market. The whole "eat right and exercise thing" has been put into a million formats that are fundamentally the same, even if they're different on the surface.

    And that's the thing with sales copy...

    You need an interesting hook/headline... something people haven't seen before (at least not too recently). That gets people to read the "meat" of your sales message.

    If you're interested in seeing this in action, subscribe to Agora's "Daily Reckoning". The ads there are always different and interesting, yet selling the same fundamental desires/fears (and product).

    -Daniel

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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
      Originally Posted by Daniel Scott View Post

      Jeremy,

      Great post.

      Here's my thoughts...

      There are two sides to this. On one hand, human psychology hasn't changed over the last hundred years and won't any time soon. We're still working on fight or flight responses drilled into us millions of years ago.

      So selling by fear (aka intimidation, in some ways) still works. Fear of loss still works. Curiosity still works. Etc, etc.

      But people also love what's new and different. If you want proof of that, look at the weight loss market. The whole "eat right and exercise thing" has been put into a million formats that are fundamentally the same, even if they're different on the surface.

      And that's the thing with sales copy...

      You need an interesting hook/headline... something people haven't seen before (at least not too recently). That gets people to read the "meat" of your sales message.

      If you're interested in seeing this in action, subscribe to Agora's "Daily Reckoning". The ads there are always different and interesting, yet selling the same fundamental desires/fears (and product).

      -Daniel

      P.S. Jack Forde is a BADASS.
      Thanks Daniel, that's a great point, the basics of human psychology have not changed...placing an emphasis on scarcity, fear of competition, even the basic human need to "keep up" with the Joneses, etc...These are all techniques that tap into the base human (and cultural) switches that turn on the buying impulse. The other side is, how many times have we been told -- If you hear "buy it now, you can't get this price tomorrow!" you should walk away...I imagine it's important to present these concepts in a way that doesn't scream hype and gimmick.

      And thanks for the tip on the Agora blog, really love learning about new resources here (well, new to me anyway!).
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  • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
    Depends Jeremy.

    Where the message and layout of the message has been copied and seen many times in a market, then it's effectiveness becomes weak.

    Example shown here on the forum.

    A member asked for a critique for his carpet cleaning ad based on the guru to the carpet cleaning industry, Joe Polish.

    He got no replies to it.

    On inspection of the Yellow Pages, his ad blended in with all the others,
    hence he blew the opportunity.

    My solution was to show a big carpet bug to stand out,
    and let them know many may be lurking and pooing in their carpet.

    Yuk!

    No other ad talked about those bugs.

    A market may have had a lot of big promise claims
    which becomes ignored.

    One of the easiest ways to boost response in a competitive market is to increase the undeniable proof to support claims and promises.

    Another way to handle competition is to warn buyers of the hidden traps when buying.

    Another way to fly under the readers scepticism is to
    expose what their enemy has been up to
    to allow their suspicions to come true.

    This bypasses their rational thinking and moves them into a state of pent up emotion
    which is ripe for fixing a indignity and a sense of justice.

    These are but a few tools to use in the right circumstances.

    A more experienced ad writer will know these old methods which are principles,
    which never lose their effectiveness over time.

    Best,
    Ewen
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
      Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

      Depends Jeremy.

      Where the message and layout of the message has been copied and seen many times in a market, then it's effectiveness becomes weak.

      Example shown here on the forum.

      A member asked for a critique for his carpet cleaning ad based on the guru to the carpet cleaning industry, Joe Polish.

      He got no replies to it.

      On inspection of the Yellow Pages, his ad blended in with all the others,
      hence he blew the opportunity.

      My solution was to show a big carpet bug to stand out,
      and let them know many may be lurking and pooing in their carpet.

      Yuk!

      No other ad talked about those bugs.

      A market may have had a lot of big promise claims
      which becomes ignored.

      One of the easiest ways to boost response in a competitive market is to increase the undeniable proof to support claims and promises.

      Another way to handle competition is to warn buyers of the hidden traps when buying.

      Another way to fly under the readers scepticism is to
      expose what their enemy has been up to
      to allow their suspicions to come true.

      This bypasses their rational thinking and moves them into a state of pent up emotion
      which is ripe for fixing a indignity and a sense of justice.

      These are but a few tools to use in the right circumstances.

      A more experienced ad writer will know these old methods which are principles,
      which never loss their effectiveness over time.

      Best,
      Ewen
      Thanks Ewen, goes to show how it IS important to present the same concepts in a way that a target hasn't become immune to. The bug idea is a great concept. Reminds me of a great tip I read (can't remember where it came from but I'm sure most here have read it) dealing with writing an ad for a dry cleaner. The business owner ticked off a list of things every dry cleaner did -- Repair buttons, hang shirts, fix zippers -- and the copywriter revealed that even though these are regular things dry cleaners do, NOBODY advertised them, and it gave their business the appearance of offering a unique service that went beyond simple "dry cleaning."
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      • Profile picture of the author ewenmack
        Originally Posted by Jeremey View Post

        Thanks Ewen, goes to show how it IS important to present the same concepts in a way that a target hasn't become immune to. The bug idea is a great concept. Reminds me of a great tip I read (can't remember where it came from but I'm sure most here have read it) dealing with writing an ad for a dry cleaner. The business owner ticked off a list of things every dry cleaner did -- Repair buttons, hang shirts, fix zippers -- and the copywriter revealed that even though these are regular things dry cleaners do, NOBODY advertised them, and it gave their business the appearance of offering a unique service that went beyond simple "dry cleaning."
        Yes that's what Jay Abraham calls pre-emptive advertising.
        He cites the Shiltz beer ads which described the mother yeast and the way the vats were cleaned. All other beer makers did the same, yet they were the first to advertise it.

        As a result they lifted their market share in a big way.

        Great discussion going on here.

        Thanks.

        Ewen
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        • Profile picture of the author Steve Faber
          Originally Posted by ewenmack View Post

          Yes that's what Jay Abraham calls pre-emptive advertising.
          He cites the Shiltz beer ads which described the mother yeast and the way the vats were cleaned. All other beer makers did the same, yet they were the first to advertise it.

          As a result they lifted their market share in a big way.

          Great discussion going on here.

          Thanks.

          Ewen
          When I sold cars for a summer in college, we were taught a variation of this powerful technique. We relayed to prospects why our vehicles were so safe, because they had strong, anti-intrusion door beams. Of course ALL vehicles had those. They had to, it was the law, but many sales people didn't mention it. Safety sells after all, almost as well as sex. Now, about those Trojan ads......
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Originally Posted by Jeremey View Post


    Haven't consumers become immune to these sales methods? I mean, I have the most recent edition of USL, and Kennedy is still talking about how effective it is to use the Post-It note method of "Hey, thought you'd want to see this -- J." Don't people know by now that there is no "J," and thus dismiss the credibility of the marketing material straight away? A lot of the selling technique revolves around a "hard sell," -- Kennedy actually discusses the value of "intimidation" in sales letters as it's "what experienced salespeople have used for years." But over the past 20 years or so, haven't consumers as a whole become turned off by the "hard sell?"

    Jeremey
    All these are natural questions to ask when you are in the
    know
    . I'm sure that professional magicians wonder why
    people would be entertained by the tricks they perform
    because the magicians know how the tricks are done and so
    they think that the audience will find out as well.

    It's the same discussion about internet marketing
    you see in the main forum when people wonder
    how other people can "fall for these marketing
    gimmicks" because they now know them. But
    for the new person all these persuasion techniques
    are transparent to them.

    The principles of selling are as old as the garden of
    Eden and human nature may find new modes of
    expression but it remains the same.

    So I agree that you should not try to reinvent
    the wheel but use the basic techniques.

    -Ray Edwards
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      All these are natural questions to ask when you are in the
      know
      . I'm sure that professional magicians wonder why
      people would be entertained by the tricks they perform
      because the magicians know how the tricks are done and so
      they think that the audience will find out as well.

      It's the same discussion about internet marketing
      you see in the main forum when people wonder
      how other people can "fall for these marketing
      gimmicks" because they now know them. But
      for the new person all these persuasion techniques
      are transparent to them.

      The principles of selling are as old as the garden of
      Eden and human nature may find new modes of
      expression but it remains the same.

      So I agree that you should not try to reinvent
      the wheel but use the basic techniques.

      -Ray Edwards
      Thanks Ray, good observations. It definitely proves that the basic human triggers behind decision making are of course unchanged. It's that "evolution of sales" I think that I experienced in the world of face to face selling that made me curious about why it seemed as though direct marketing didn't really experience those evolutions, remaining effective even after years of repetition.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThomasOMalley
    Oh yes, "how can the copywriting techniques of many years ago work today?" argument or point.

    That's another old chestnut just like the argument that long copy can't work.

    These copywriting techniques, such as the power of curiosity and bullets, have proven the test of time.

    Ignore them at your peril.

    We see these points by every newbie who swings by...as Thomas yawns.

    Forget the new shiny object stuff.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
      Originally Posted by ThomasOMalley View Post

      Oh yes, "how can the copywriting techniques of many years ago work today?" argument or point.

      That's another old chestnut just like the argument that long copy can't work.

      These copywriting techniques, such as the power of curiosity and bullets, have proven the test of time.

      Ignore them at your peril.

      We see these points by every newbie who swings by...as Thomas yawns.

      Forget the new shiny object stuff.
      Thanks for the insight, Thomas!
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  • As the saying goes "there's nothing new under the sun."

    There's just a different way of saying it.

    Don't blindly follow any of the guru's advice when they say "do such and such and your response automatically soars.*

    It might, but if it was universally true, we would all be typing our posts from our very own private sun kissed Islands.

    Most of the tried, tested and proven copywriting principles do of course work - but often need to be adapted to your specific audience.


    Steve


    P.S. * We'll always be told our sales piece must have a headline, subheads and a P.S.

    I can see all the reasons for this, and have rarely written a sales letter without them - because they do increase the response.

    But in the back of my mind, I often think about one of the most successful sales letters in history - Halberts "Coat of Arms" letter, which didn't have a headline, subheads or a P.S.

    The kicker is - would it have been even more successful if it had?

    Or did it work so well because it looked just like an ordinary letter?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
      Originally Posted by Steve The Copywriter View Post

      As the saying goes "there's nothing new under the sun."

      There's just a different way of saying it.

      Don't blindly follow any of the guru's advice when they say "do such and such and your response automatically soars.*

      It might, but if it was universally true, we would all be typing our posts from our very own private sun kissed Islands.

      Most of the tried, tested and proven copywriting principles do of course work - but often need to be adapted to your specific audience.


      Steve


      P.S. * We'll always be told our sales piece must have a headline, subheads and a P.S.

      I can see all the reasons for this, and have rarely written a sales letter without them - because they do increase the response.

      But in the back of my mind, I often think about one of the most successful sales letters in history - Halberts "Coat of Arms" letter, which didn't have a headline, subheads or a P.S.

      The kicker is - would it have been even more successful if it had?

      Or did it work so well because it looked just like an ordinary letter?
      Thanks Steve...Definitely some great points in this thread. You hit the nail on the head - There's nothing new under the sun, so it's up to us to figure out a way of making the mundane or hack seem new and interesting.

      Certainly people have the same proven motivations in 2012 as they did in 1957, 1982 or 1995. PT Barnum knew all these things way back in 1874 even.

      I guess my original post, with regard not to copywriting or advertising in general but direct marketing/mail copywriting...In that certain things just seemed like "tricks," and I was surprised that the delivery hasn't evolved that much over 20 years. For example, the fake post-it note gimmick, or the same overused headlines applied exactly as they were back in 1974...ie "Don't read this unless you want to make $10,000 in the next 5 days!" or one of my favorites, "They laughed at me when I sat down to operate on my cousin's bowel obstruction with a penknife -- until I successfully made a balloon giraffe from his duodenum!" Or some variation of such...I mean....Do you REALLY not want to make $10,000 in 5 days? Did they REALLY laugh at your penknife? We've heard these things time and time again and yet they (or again, some variation) are used every day in copywriting.

      Again, not to say these things don't work. If they didn't, nobody would be using them anymore. But I'm amazed that as the selling process has evolved and gotten more sophisticated, a lot of the same whiz-bang principles from 30 years ago are still being used in direct market copywriting.

      And mind you, I'm not complaining. If anyone wants to believe that all their job entails is grabbing some from column a, b, c, and d and stacking them together in a cohesive way that's been proven to make money, then that's great...Life would be easy, as you say, Steve. But there's obviously more to it than that. I think that's a large part of what makes this job so interesting...for me, at least.
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      • Originally Posted by Jeremey View Post

        Again, not to say these things don't work. If they didn't, nobody would be using them anymore. But I'm amazed that as the selling process has evolved and gotten more sophisticated, a lot of the same whiz-bang principles from 30 years ago are still being used in direct market copywriting.
        I believe your premise is flawed. I think that direct marketing copywriting has evolved as much, if not more than the selling process.

        I understand what you are saying about sales. I've been to every seminar and new sales training that came around in the last 30 years as you describe.

        You compare these changes to the sales letter. Yet direct marketing is much more than sales letters. Think of the developments we've seen as direct marketing changed and evolved with the times: infomercials, magalogs, video sales letters, email marketing, and more. You could even include Adwords, one of the most successful ad methods in history.

        While sales and sales training has evolved with different methods like major account sales, the consultative sale, Ari Galper's approach, etc., the basic sales process underneath is basically the same.

        Likewise, while direct marketing has evolved with different formats and delivery systems, the basic sales structure remains.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremey
          Originally Posted by Joe Ditzel View Post

          I believe your premise is flawed. I think that direct marketing copywriting has evolved as much, if not more than the selling process.

          I understand what you are saying about sales. I've been to every seminar and new sales training that came around in the last 30 years as you describe.

          You compare these changes to the sales letter. Yet direct marketing is much more than sales letters. Think of the developments we've seen as direct marketing changed and evolved with the times: infomercials, magalogs, video sales letters, email marketing, and more. You could even include Adwords, one of the most successful ad methods in history.

          While sales and sales training has evolved with different methods like major account sales, the consultative sale, Ari Galper's approach, etc., the basic sales process underneath is basically the same.

          Likewise, while direct marketing has evolved with different formats and delivery systems, the basic sales structure remains.
          Thanks Joe, you know, I finished Kennedy's book last night and I feel like I have a better understanding of the "why" the content & verbiage of DM copywriting hasn't changed much. He makes a good point by quoting Barnum as saying no one ever went broke overestimating the ignorance of the American public. Not that this writing is particularly geared toward "ignorant" people, but that in general, his illustration that "butcher, baker, candlestick maker, doctor, lawyer, CEO - they're all people who respond to the same basic motives and appeals." That being said, I DO think the technology of DM has evolved tremendously, and I agree with you. In fact, it's a whole different business now than it was 10 years ago, thanks to how technology has evolved. My OP was motivated more by reading DM copy that had basically unchanged over the years (for example, reading a sales letter from 1985 and 2012 showed very little variation in the tone, style, and structure, and continued using some of those tropes I mentioned a couple of posts ago, thinking that "haven't people seen enough of these kind of headlines, etc?").

          Thanks for all the responses, I can honestly say I have a better understanding after starting this thread!
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