How to Sell Anything to Anyone - Why I Think Copywriting is Easy...

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Due to some health issues I've had over the last
month or so, I took a wife-and-doctor-mandated
vacation.

If you're like me, anytime you take a vacation
or any large amount of time off, your mind tends
to race.

And while I took some time off, I was able to reflect
about my online career that has spanned close to
12 years now.

I remember back in 2001, when the gym I was working
at suddenly closed down, I found myself without a
job.

Almost by sheer coincidence, I had picked up a book
that same day... it was called "Multiple Streams of
Internet Income"

After reading it, I figured "what the hell, what do
I have to lose"

That day in 2001, my internet marketing career
was born.

I quickly realized I didn't know much about
marketing, selling, or any of that.

I think when you learn ANY new skill, there are
several stages you go through.

when first starting out, it can be overwhelming
to the point where you're thinking "what the
f*ck am I doing?

Then, the more you read, study, and learn...
things start to naturally fall into place.

Things become familiar, you start practicing
what you're learning.

It's no longer just theory, but you get
feedback and results based on what you're
doing... so you know if you have to change
course and tweak things.

Lord knows when I started copywriting back
in 2001 or so, I had NO CLUE what i was doing.

Hence, the 1,000 exclamation points I'd use
in my copy... and so much red it looked like
someone bled on the screen...

Then there was the excessive bolding and
highlighting, a million adjectives (this product
is the most super, amazing, powerful life-changing
light bulb EVER!)

Anyways, I went from this "what the hell am
I doing" stage... to soon being able to put things
into practice and getting valuable feedback.

I would quickly learn or not if what I just wrote
would lead to a sale. If not, I'd try something
different... a new headline, subhead, etc.

And soon, the more I implemented my copy skills
into my business... that's when things really took
off for me.

I managed to go from that new, scary, unknown
stage... to one of more comfort and familiarity.

$5 a week turned to $50, and then $500 and then
$5,000 and then $10,000 a week.

I went from starting out not knowing a damn
thing, but I kept learning, practicing, implementing,
getting feedback, and changing course if needed.

And now, these days, almost 12 years later, it all
seems so simple.

Copywriting and selling in general just seems
easy to me.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I know it
all, have done it all, or that i'm the world's greatest
or most successful writer.

FAR from it.

It's just that I've gotten to the point where I've
been able to take a step back, look at the big
picture of copy and sales, and now try to shortcut
that learning curve for my coaching students.

In other words, once you reach a certain stage in
ANY skill... things start to seem more "simple" to you.

They make more sense, you just "get it".

Even though it took me close to 12 years to
get to this stage, I now realize how many copywriters
(me included) make the art of selling much harder
than it needs to be.

Selling something to someone isn't hard, unless you
MAKE it hard.

I mean, all you have to do is to find out what people
want... and give THAT to them.

Instead of assuming it in your copy, ask if you can.

Yes, selling is THAT easy. You simply find out what
people want and help them get it!

Of course when you sell in person, you can ask someone.

But when you're selling in print, you can't really ask,
so you have to put yourself into your prospects shoes,
their mindset, and anticipate their needs.

This is the way you separate yourself from the
amateur copywriters who sell on hype.

Amateur copywriters write stuff that sounds
good to THEM... while pros write stuff that sounds
good to the prospect.

And it all boils down to making sure that what you're
offering is what people really want.

You do it by taking the trouble to find out what
people want

This is why i used to survey my buyers all the time,
to find out what motivated them to buy.

Then, I simply took those answers and weaved
them into my copy.

Almost without fail, the conversion rate would
increase. Some letters went from 1% all the way
to 2% and higher, just by asking what people wanted.

Amateurs write copy by simply guessing what the
market wants.

Pros ask.

So if you want to really excel at copy, go out into
the marketplace and find out what people in that
niche want the most.

Then provide it.

Selling is easy when you do that, because you're
really just giving people what they want to buy.

It doesn't take hype, or aggressive sales pitches,
"selling the sizzle" or having the tenacity of a bulldog,
talking someone into saying "yes" or being a smooth
talker, or manipulation of any sorts.

Nope, selling is MUCH easier than that.

I think that's the biggest "ah ha" moment I've had
in the last few years.

I really figured out that I was making sales and copy
difficult, when it didn't have to be.

The most important part of selling and copywriting is
finding out what your market wants... and giving
it to them.

More specifically, what does that ONE person want...
the one person reading your sales letter... what does
THAT person want?

What's the biggest problem facing that one person
right now ?" Everything you say or write must focus
on that.

You must find their current motivation.

After all, you can't really motivate another person.

I learned that while working as a personal trainer.

People are internally motivated, self-motivated.

Either they want something or not.

So you can't motivate someone into buying.. they're
already motivated.

If they're not already internally motivated... they
probably won't buy... no matter how much you try
to sell them.

Most copywriters THINK that they're writing to try
to motivate their prospects. But you can't.

You can't motivate someone INTO buying what you
have.

You simply have to channel their existing motivation
TO your product or service.

You're trying to stand in front of someone who is
already motivated, presenting your case as to why
your product or service is the best choice.

This person who is reading your letter is already
motivated. The want/need already exists;

Your job as a copywriter is to discover what it is
and appeal to it.

Don't try to create the demand or need, just
stand in front of that prospect's current motivation
and show them why YOUR product/service is the best
or most unique/ different, etc...

Your job is to show them that your product or
service will help them get what they want.

What is this person's biggest problem? Problems
usually mean someone is motivated to solve them.

So use that to your advantage.

Find out what the reader's motivation is and then
show that person how he or she can get it through
your product or service.

Only then will they buy.

So remember that the next time you're writing your
copy.

Or, if you're like me when you're trying to create
new products, find out what the biggest needs are...
and then create a product around solving that need.

When you do that, the copy almost writes itself.

Survey your current list and ask them for problems...
they'll tell you what's needed for you to make a sale.

You then present them solutions for their problems,
a way of getting what they want.

Do that and your products will sell better and your
copy will convert more.

When you're able to survey your market, or at least
put yourself into their shoes and create a customer
avatar, you're more likely to find out what features/
benefits of your product or service are most important.

And yes, objections will come up, so don't hide from
them. Instead, tackle them head-on in the copy.
You'll seem much more credible, honest, trustworthy,

So bottom line, selling is easy when you find out
what the person wants to buy and then you give them that.

It's as simple as that.

Of course, it took me almost 12 years to learn how
simple it is:-)

Hopefully this will shortcut your own learning curve by
a few years.
#copywriting #easy #sell
  • Yes, it's all too common for copywriters to get in the way of themselves.

    Instead just path the way for your customers - step by step. Nice and easy does it.


    Steve



    P.S. Shawn I hope your health issues are all sorted out.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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    Rather than go into one of my usual lengthy elongated
    replies Shawn, I think it will suffice to say I touched on
    a few points which compliment your own advice very
    well here...

    Conversational copywriting

    As you quite rightly stated, selling anything to anyone is
    easy if the potential buyer already has the motivation to
    act.

    Once this fact has been established, it's simply a case
    of researching / finding out what conversation (typically
    speaking) is going through the mind of your ideal
    prospect.

    In a face to face situation this is easy. Just talk naturally
    and easily about the benefits of the product in question,
    how this will enable the person you're talking with to
    make a decision which feels right for them at the time.

    In conversation you have a natural flow. Each of your
    spoken sentences building up a picture in the recipients
    mind incentivizing them to take action, motivating them
    to act on your advice because in doing so, you know
    the person you're chatting with will benefit from the
    advice or opinion imparted to them.

    It becomes a win-win for both parties.

    Fact is people have problems and people don't like
    having problems. Which is why they're always seeking
    solutions to alleviate the emotional pain they're in.

    Enter into the conversation they're having in their own
    mind, thinking / reasoning as they themselves are think-
    ing as it relates to the problem / solution scenario and
    it becomes pretty easy to put the sale in the bag.

    After all is said and done, you're only giving to them
    exactly what they want to hear.

    Tickle them and they will buy.

    Smoking hot,


    Mark Andrews
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Hey Shawn,

    I realize that you have a good wife and a good doctor, but
    I can see that you will be going back on vacation soon
    if you keep up those long posts.

    Stay well.

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    • Profile picture of the author copyassassin
      Due to some health issues I've had over the last
      month or so, I took a wife-and-doctor-mandated
      vacation.
      Did taking time off effect sales?

      Or, have you automated a majority of your business so a month or two absence isn't detrimental to the operations?
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  • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
    Hope you're feeling better, Shawn. Nice post.

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  • Profile picture of the author davemiz
    LOL... i wish it was easy.... been going nuts getting my offer profitable on paid traffic.

    i might have to do one of them contests with a big $$ prize like my man Dan Caron did a few months ago.
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    • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
      @ Dave... maybe i should have said that the mindset of selling is easy"... i.e. what selling really boils down to...

      Cause you're not kidding, it can be tough as hell to put pen to paper, or I guess fingers to keyboard.

      I'm starting to notice these days, getting anything profitable via paid traffic is getting tougher and tougher, which is why I'm leaning towards high-ticket items online, so i can spend more on PPC.

      i miss the good old days in 2004, 2005, when you could just throw sh*t up on adwords and make a killing with 3 cent clicks. I guess all good things come to an end!





      Originally Posted by davemiz View Post

      LOL... i wish it was easy.... been going nuts getting my offer profitable on paid traffic.

      i might have to do one of them contests with a big $$ prize like my man Dan Caron did a few months ago.
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      • Profile picture of the author copyassassin
        Originally Posted by shawnlebrun View Post


        I'm starting to notice these days, getting anything profitable via paid traffic is getting tougher and tougher, which is why I'm leaning towards high-ticket items online, so i can spend more on PPC.
        Are you talking about frontend, or backend?

        I've been taught to get a little negative on the frontend, and make it all up on the backend.

        If front end sales are profit drivers, then that model is doomed to fail.
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  • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
    @ adam - in a way, taking time off definitely limits the profits in a service only business, but thankfully i set it up YEARS ago so that i have multiple streams of income coming in,
    so if I do need to take time off, all my income doesn't dry up.

    I've got many different online businesses that fly under the radar, and those keep bringing in sales and income, regardless if I'm there or not.

    More importantly, I've started training and hiring other writers to help with clients
    when I'm not able.

    Then, i have a personal training company and real estate training company that kinda runs by themselves, so thankfully I've set them up with other folks to manage and run when i'm not there.

    But if it was simply 100% copy clients, I'd probably never be able to take time off.
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    • Profile picture of the author copyassassin
      Originally Posted by shawnlebrun View Post

      @ adam - in a way, taking time off definitely limits the profits in a service only business, but thankfully i set it up YEARS ago so that i have multiple streams of income coming in,
      so if I do need to take time off, all my income doesn't dry up.

      I've got many different online businesses that fly under the radar, and those keep bringing in sales and income, regardless if I'm there or not.
      I'm currently in the process of making myself replaceable and adding passive income streams.

      Your story totally resonating with me because if something bad were to happen to me, but I didn't die, our family would be screwed.

      I'm looking to disability insurance, as well as transforming my business model so I own my business, rather than it owning me.

      But, it does take a lot of time and mistakes along the way to get it right.

      Being self employed is really a joy, with moments of "holy crap!"

      Glad to hear you've got your shit together. I'm sure your wife is happy about that too!
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      • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
        @ adam...

        Yeah... anything front end, in my eyes, is tough to make work with PPC these days. Well, that is if you're selling $50 and under products.

        But high ticket items, like copy services and copy courses, in my biz, gives you more room to play. You can spend more on PPC with high end stuff, so you can usually beat competitors that way.

        When I started in 2001 or so, Goto.com/Overture was a nickel and dime per click... as well as adwords in 2002 or 2003 (I forget when!) so you could still make a lot of money promoting $50 ebooks.

        Not so much today, you MUST make it up on the backend. Hell, the last few years, I've been using $47 ebooks as loss leaders, just to get the customer.

        I'm fine with that, because over the life of the customer, it will lead to $300 or so in sales, so i'm ok with losing or breaking even on front end.

        Heck, i have some friends who sell an ebook to break even, and then don't have a back end, but they then use email marketing/promoting affiliate products to make the back end work.

        Adam, you're 100% right... when you have a business that doesn't make money or continue to survive and thrive when you're not working, it's just like having a job.

        I really liked 4 hour work week to get into that mindset, E-myth by Gerber was good, and so was Millionaire Fastlane by MJ Demarco.

        Another great read was "work the system"

        Work The System Academy

        that free ebook was much better than E-myth.

        but yeah, that's been my focus the last few years... realizing
        that if I wanted to take vacations without worrying about income,
        or if something bad happened to me, it would be a problem.

        So i've really been focusing on setting things up to run and be profitable, whether or not i'm working.

        This is a huge reason why royalties help with A-list copywriters, it helps bring in that income stream... even after the letter is written.

        and what i do now, is sell marketing templates, packages, to specific niches... which again, you can sell and make money even without being there all the time.

        but yeah, if you're thinking that way, you've reached another level of "enlightenment" because the happiest business owners are those who work on growing the biz, and not being stuck IN the biz.


        Originally Posted by copyassassin View Post

        I'm currently in the process of making myself replaceable and adding passive income streams.

        Your story totally resonating with me because if something bad were to happen to me, but I didn't die, our family would be screwed.

        I'm looking to disability insurance, as well as transforming my business model so I own my business, rather than it owning me.

        But, it does take a lot of time and mistakes along the way to get it right.

        Being self employed is really a joy, with moments of "holy crap!"

        Glad to hear you've got your shit together. I'm sure your wife is happy about that too!
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        • Profile picture of the author copyassassin
          Originally Posted by shawnlebrun View Post


          and what i do now, is sell marketing templates, packages, to specific niches... which again, you can sell and make money even without being there all the time.

          but yeah, if you're thinking that way, you've reached another level of "enlightenment" because the happiest business owners are those who work on growing the biz, and not being stuck IN the biz.

          Shawn,

          thx for your reply.

          In my business, a yearly client is worth say $2k-5K, and they come back for at least 7 years on average.

          I'm currently in Derek Naylor program to create a model for CPAs to grow their practice, and then liceanse that package on a monthly basis. With upsells and cross sells, seminars, & coaching, and all that stuff.

          I'm actually going to be having a mastermind in August for my clients here @ 10K a head:

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          I highly recommend you listen to the audio out at:

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          I think with your experience you could do the same. I personally believe this is the best model out there.

          We should talk some time.

          Congrats again on all your success.

          It's important for people to know that financial liberty is possible. Not just hypey b.s. that gurus sell.

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  • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
    Originally Posted by shawnlebrun View Post

    Of course, it took me almost 12 years to learn how
    simple it is:-)
    I like that.

    Reminds me of a time when I was teaching martial arts to some of my students.

    While I was demonstrating, one of them said, "Look at him: he's such a natural."

    To which I replied, "Yes, but it took me 20 years to become a natural."

    Also, I know how you feel with the health issues. Same happened here.

    Hope you're feeling a lot better.
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    • Profile picture of the author wilmath
      Welcome Back Shawn
      When John Carleton was doing his golf instruction sales letters they did some research on golfers. They found out guys were more interested in pounding the hell out of the ball off the tee than lowering their scores.

      Carleton and the people he worked for changed the focus of both the product and the sales pitch. The new pitch offered a way for guys to impress their friends with how far they could drive the ball off the tee.
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  • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
    Glad you're feeling better Shawn.

    You know, I've found this to be true in many things. Back when I was teaching guitar lessons, I used to tell new students that playing the guitar is easy...even playing it well is easy. It's learning to play well that's hard. If more people "got" this I think they'd be more patient with themselves during the learning stage.

    Everything you used to do well, you once sucked at...including, walking, talking, getting food in your mouth instead of all over yourself and going to the bathroom in the right place. That's what it takes to get great at something...live like most people don't want to live now so you live like everyone wants to later.
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