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Need a good coppy man who doesn't charge a fortune

by timpears
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I know that is kind of funny, but I ain't got a whole lot of smack as I am on disability. I am trying to work IM to get me off of the disability gig, but so far not a whole lot of luck. So I want to do this WSO gig to aid in that transition as I think i can take this service to the world, but would like to test it out in a WSO.

Anyway, i need the best order pulling sales page I can buy for low price. I have seen a couple selling for $127 or so that were enticing, but now I can't find them.

Anyway, I did start a web page to process the orders, but messed up the script, so i am going to work without it. But the offer is there, including WSO discounted price. Order Page Everything is there in the page, other than handling of the back end, but it don't work damn it, cuz I mucked up the script. And evidently my original went astray.

So can someone build me a butt kicking WSO sales page, including graphics as needed. I will pay the cost of those $1-$5 graphics if they are needed, and there is nothing in Creative Commons or public domain.

Yea, I want a lot for a little. But if you don't ask, you don't get. If you don't thinnk it is worth your while, then I wouldn't apply and no hard feelings. Send me a PM if you want with your suggestions or offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
    Anyway, i need the best order pulling sales page I can buy for low price. I have seen a couple selling for $127 or so that were enticing, but now I can't find them.
    Here's one. It's been running as a banner ad on the WF today:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/warriors...ml#post7412885

    I have no affiliation with, nor do I know anything about, the advertiser.

    Alex
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Originally Posted by timpears View Post

      I know that is kind of funny, but I ain't got a whole lot of smack as I am on disability. I am trying to work IM to get me off of the disability gig, but so far not a whole lot of luck. So I want to do this WSO gig to aid in that transition as I think i can take this service to the world, but would like to test it out in a WSO.

      Anyway, i need the best order pulling sales page I can buy for low price. I have seen a couple selling for $127 or so that were enticing, but now I can't find them.

      Anyway, I did start a web page to process the orders, but messed up the script, so i am going to work without it. But the offer is there, including WSO discounted price. Everything is there in the page, other than handling of the back end, but it don't work damn it, cuz I mucked up the script. And evidently my original went astray.

      So can someone build me a butt kicking WSO sales page, including graphics as needed. I will pay the cost of those $1-$5 graphics if they are needed, and there is nothing in Creative Commons or public domain.

      Yea, I want a lot for a little. But if you don't ask, you don't get. If you don't thinnk it is worth your while, then I wouldn't apply and no hard feelings. Send me a PM if you want with your suggestions or offers.
      Hang on a tick Tim, let me get this straight...

      You want to pay peanuts for your sales copy claiming you're on disability - correct?

      This being the case, doesn't this somewhat contradict your recent WSO here...

      Here's A Solid $1,000+ Per Week Business Model That WORKS!

      Where you claim making $1,000 per week is dead easy?

      I quote from your sales letter on the above link...

      Main headline: "The Greatest Internet Marketing Business Model In Existence"

      Here’s How You Can Stop Wasting Time, Money, And Finally Stop Spinning Your Wheels In The Gravel Going Absolutely Nowhere In Your Internet Marketing Business!

      ...

      Otherwise You Could Literally Be Leaving Thousands Of Dollars On The Table Each And Every Month!
      From: The Desk Of Tim Pears

      RE: How To REALLY Make Money Online

      ...

      What is the model that he, I, and so many others are using to quietly profit hand over fist month after month online?

      Etc etc etc;

      This apparently being the case, i.e. making thousands per month or as you put it yourself, making money hand over fist month in, month out, how come you now want to spend such little money, a paltry sum of cash on a copywriter this time round?

      If copywriting, if a superbly crafted sales letter is 'worth it's weight in gold' and you're making so much money every single month, why in this particular business model are you prepared to invest so little in a copywriter?

      Pardon the question but I, well, just find this a little shall we say, odd?

      Smoking hot,


      Mark Andrews
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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Ausin
        Originally Posted by Mark Andrews View Post

        Hang on a tick Tim, let me get this straight...

        You want to pay peanuts for your sales copy claiming you're on disability - correct?

        This being the case, doesn't this somewhat contradict your recent WSO here...

        Here's A Solid $1,000+ Per Week Business Model That WORKS!

        Where you claim making $1,000 per week is dead easy?
        To OP:
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        • Profile picture of the author Gengis
          Originally Posted by Matt Ausin View Post

          To OP:
          WOW Lmao..

          O.P so did you find someone yet? If not PM me i think i have a solution for you..
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      • Profile picture of the author 1robert
        [QUOTE=Mark Andrews;7490615]Hang on a tick Tim, let me get this straight...

        You want to pay peanuts for your sales copy claiming you're on disability - correct?

        This being the case, doesn't this somewhat contradict your recent WSO here...

        Here's A Solid $1,000+ Per Week Business Model That WORKS!

        I agree With Mark on this one.

        Something FISHY going on here and I can't stand stinky fish!
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      • Profile picture of the author Jomuli3
        Originally Posted by Mark Andrews View Post

        Hang on a tick Tim, let me get this straight...

        You want to pay peanuts for your sales copy claiming you're on disability - correct?

        This being the case, doesn't this somewhat contradict your recent WSO here...

        Here's A Solid $1,000+ Per Week Business Model That WORKS!

        Where you claim making $1,000 per week is dead easy?

        I quote from your sales letter on the above link...

        Main headline: "The Greatest Internet Marketing Business Model In Existence"

        Here's How You Can Stop Wasting Time, Money, And Finally Stop Spinning Your Wheels In The Gravel Going Absolutely Nowhere In Your Internet Marketing Business!

        ...

        Otherwise You Could Literally Be Leaving Thousands Of Dollars On The Table Each And Every Month!
        From: The Desk Of Tim Pears

        RE: How To REALLY Make Money Online

        ...

        What is the model that he, I, and so many others are using to quietly profit hand over fist month after month online?

        Etc etc etc;

        This apparently being the case, i.e. making thousands per month or as you put it yourself, making money hand over fist month in, month out, how come you now want to spend such little money, a paltry sum of cash on a copywriter this time round?

        If copywriting, if a superbly crafted sales letter is 'worth it's weight in gold' and you're making so much money every single month, why in this particular business model are you prepared to invest so little in a copywriter?

        Pardon the question but I, well, just find this a little shall we say, odd?

        Smoking hot,


        Mark Andrews
        A village headman knows all the corners of his land. He is able to answer most questions about his village. You are like that on this forum Mark! You always have a knack to fish out old posts.

        Keep it up Mark! Your threads are always worthy reading.

        Tim - If you really want a sales page that is persuasively and irresistibly written, you have to pay better rates.To be fair in your charges, put yourself in the position of a copywriter.

        Would you be happy with what you are offering?

        You could get a copywriter at that offer but the quality of work would not be of the standard you expect.
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    • Profile picture of the author Matt Ausin
      Originally Posted by Alex Cohen View Post

      Here's one. It's been running as a banner ad on the WF today:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/warriors...ml#post7412885

      I have no affiliation with, nor do I know anything about, the advertiser.

      Alex
      I'm not saying anything more but you REALLY have to do the due diligence with that seller.
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  • Profile picture of the author scrofford
    Dude, I'm on disability too, am creating a product, and can't afford a sales letter written. So you know what I'm doing????? I'm learning to write sales copy! WOW! I'm actually taking the time to learn! Is there some reason why YOU can't do the same thing?

    Of course I realize that my letter will probably have some holes in it at first, but you learn by doing, making mistakes, learning from your mistakes and then fixing them by making the copy better.

    I suppose I could find someone to write me a sales letter for peanuts, and get my product up and running with sales right away, but I would rather learn to fish so I can catch many than just be handed one.

    People who expect copywriters to give away their skills for a song have no respect in my opinion. They are just absorbed in getting what they want and not caring that someone else has put in a lot of hours and effort to learn the skill.

    Get yourself a copywriting course and learn the skill!
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    • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
      Originally Posted by scrofford View Post

      Dude, I'm on disability too, am creating a product, and can't afford a sales letter written. So you know what I'm doing????? I'm learning to write sales copy! WOW! I'm actually taking the time to learn! Is there some reason why YOU can't do the same thing?

      Of course I realize that my letter will probably have some holes in it at first, but you learn by doing, making mistakes, learning from your mistakes and then fixing them by making the copy better.

      I suppose I could find someone to write me a sales letter for peanuts, and get my product up and running with sales right away, but I would rather learn to fish so I can catch many than just be handed one.

      People who expect copywriters to give away their skills for a song have no respect in my opinion. They are just absorbed in getting what they want and not caring that someone else has put in a lot of hours and effort to learn the skill.

      Get yourself a copywriting course and learn the skill!
      Not bad advice, I'd suggest you take it up.

      Even if you don't end up writing your own copy long term, learning even a little about it will help you make a smart hire. It's not hard to hire someone who is a good writer but who can't write something that sells. The difference isn't so easy to spot either. You have to know at least something about what works and WHY it works to tell someone who writes well from someone who writes to sell.

      One of the most valuable pieces of entrepreneurial advice I got early on is that while you don't have to be an expert on everything, you should know enough about it to make a smart hire. Copywriting can be a great investment or a quick way to send your money flushed away and swirling. The more you know about the craft, the smarter investments you'll be able to make when you do have the money to hire.
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  • Profile picture of the author Corey Geer
    Hey Timpears,

    I sent you a PM to see what exactly you needed to have done and what your requirements were.

    I understand you're on a limited budget, it happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Tim,

    from the top...you present a fancy eye-catching logo with a decal screaming "Special Offer" (with a "thumbs up" even) and your product name "Repin Center"...

    and I'm immediately thinking "What's a "Repin Center"?...something to do with used cars maybe?"

    Reinforced with with a Birth-of-the-internet url underneath - just in case we're so retarded we can't look up to the browser to see where the hell we are.

    Your Headline (in all its glory) -

    Webmasters & Others are Getting Huge Response & Exposure & Traffic From Pinterest's Re-Pin Feature

    Who are these "others" I wonder?

    And its all downhill from there. A case-study in "how not to do it". Starting with that unfortunate "Repin Center". That's where you lost me.

    Actually, no it's not.

    You lost me at the "Special Offer" in the prime real estate at the top left.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
    In fairness, the OP didn't actually say he's making money with this method (though I agree it's been deliberately written to gloss over that fact...)

    He's also said:

    Feel free to ask any questions. I will do my best to answer them. I am still in a learning stage as this is mostly the work of my coach. I thought it would help Warriors that didn't have the money to hire a coach. I know it was hard for me to scrape the money together.
    For the record, I think this marketing approach is distasteful (and that's putting it lightly). And I do wonder how the FTC would react if this offer ever got big enough to attract their attention.

    -Daniel
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      The overall 'offer' on the table here is insulting to the other copywriters here.

      Framed, presented in this context Tim is in actual fact saying...

      "I don't value what you as copywriters bring to the table.

      I want to earn thousands hand over fist month in, month out, but you're not instrumental to my success.

      On this basis, I'm prepared to pay you peanuts for what you bring to the table. I don't value you any higher."

      Which is no basis at all for a healthy good relationship with the copywriters on this forum.


      Mark Andrews
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  • Profile picture of the author NickN
    Maybe Tim could also offer the copywriter a cut of the sales?

    Sounds pretty fair.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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      Originally Posted by NickN View Post

      Maybe Tim could also offer the copywriter a cut of the sales?

      Sounds pretty fair.
      Yeah, the same as the maximum payout to affiliates 75%.

      That should do it.

      Touche!


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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Scott
      Originally Posted by NickN View Post

      Maybe Tim could also offer the copywriter a cut of the sales?

      Sounds pretty fair.
      Sadly, a cut of nothing is still nothing.

      And that aside...

      Do you really want to take a gig selling what's essentially bullshit?

      -Daniel
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    There's a reason the rich stay rich... and the poor stay poor.

    Um...

    Ready?

    Mindset!

    The OP is programmed for failure.

    Nothing anyone says to him/her will change that.

    Decisions, like focusing on getting cheap copywriting help, are the signature of a scarcity-minded person.

    And scarcity thinking does NOT equate to success, EVER.

    But as Mark Andrews pointed out...

    Here's a situation where someone is claiming to have a "make money formula," yet is obviously full of shit.

    My advice to anyone else reading this post that thinks their formula works, but doesn't have the cash-in-hand to prove it:

    Come back when you're ready to put your investment dollars where your belief supposedly is.

    Or...

    Utilize your formula to its fullest potential, then hire the very best copywriter (who's available) and broadcast your proven success formula in neon lights (so you can HELP tons of people!)

    That being said...

    I'd bet good money the OP's "formula" is total garbage.

    RESULTS DON'T LIE!

    This is a good message for newbie copywriters too.

    Don't tell other people you can make them money - until you've done it for yourself.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Grace
    Man even if you did want to pay the fees many of us command I'd be willing to bet nobody here would take the gig. Because based on what's been dug up on you... you probably have a crap product, you don't intend to add value to the marketplace, you just want to take the money and run.

    No self respecting copywriter takes clients like that for any price. Even when I started out and needed to land clients, I knew NEVER to do business with shady people, even if it meant a little hardship at the moment.
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