After hours of hard work and spilled coffee on my keyboard...The Site Is Live...How's My Copy?

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Hey Guys, I'm no writer, in fact I find writing very difficult. I've recently launched my web site for my business. I'm a personal trainer and I work with clients in person. I'm not selling any products or anything like that, just my services and my expertise.

I'm ready to be ripped into shreds and hear what you (experienced writers) have to say about my copy. Ottawa Personal Trainer | Ottawa Weight Loss | Ottawa Fat Loss | Fat Loss Solutions Inc.

I'm not sure about my head line and sub head line....but not sure what else/how else to say what I'm trying to say there.
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  • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
    Rus,

    I started my online career as a personal trainer back in
    2001 and went on to sell millions in the fitness niche.

    So first off, congrats on being online. You'd be surprised
    how many personal trainers still have no web presence.

    The big issue I see with your site... is that it's simply
    way too busy and cluttered to get someone to do the
    ONE thing you want them to do: which is probably
    to contact you for a consult.

    So the more options, links, and other
    distractions you have on the site, the less likely
    the chance of them taking that one action you want.

    Too many choices = them not making the
    one you want them to make.

    Always remember... if a site is too busy,
    then the site visitor will probably not be
    able to focus on what you offer. There are
    just too many things going on.

    So, start with the end result in mind,
    and work backwards...

    If you know your goal is to get
    them to contact you for a consult,
    then your site should be set up
    simply, cleanly, and easily... so that
    choice is the one they're most likely
    to take.

    When I was doing one-on-one personal
    training in person, I was getting 4 out of
    every 10 site visitors to contact me, and
    I was using a one-page site.

    Again, I started with the end goal in mind,
    a consult, and then wrote the copy so that
    it led them to make that call.

    John Carlton calls it a "greased
    slide" where someone lands on your
    page, sees a benefit-filled headline,
    and then you lead them right down the
    page, like a greased slide, to the order form.

    THAT is how you want your site set up.

    The copy in the first few paragraphs is
    simply not engaging, it's too "wordy"

    You don't want to use words like
    "caveats" or "diminutive"... but rather
    more in the way you'd talk to a client.

    Out of the thousands I've trained, I don't
    think either of those words left my lips.

    Think simple, easy, friendly, one-on-one
    conversation that drips with empathy
    and understanding.

    Stick with black text on a light background,
    your orange text on blue background simply
    makes it tough to read.

    There's a reason why all newspapers are
    black text on light paper... it's easiest
    to read.

    Your site is just hard to read, there's
    too much going on, and you have a lot
    of barriers that people have to go through
    before you get them to call.

    One HUGE positive you have, Rus, is that
    you've got a ton of great proof elements
    in your success stories.

    That, my friend, should be the foundation
    of your marketing... you obviously do a
    great job... take that and run with it.

    I've seen some very wealthy trainers with
    less proof than you, so great job with that.

    I think you need a bit of copy help, but also
    some layout and design work so that you have
    that "greased slide" to get people to call.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rezbi
      Originally Posted by shawnlebrun View Post

      Rus,

      I started my online career as a personal trainer back in
      2001 and went on to sell millions in the fitness niche.

      So first off, congrats on being online. You'd be surprised
      how many personal trainers still have no web presence.

      The big issue I see with your site... is that it's simply
      way too busy and cluttered to get someone to do the
      ONE thing you want them to do: which is probably
      to contact you for a consult.
      Love your replies, Shawn.

      You go easy on them and help them... gently.

      Some would come on and say something like, "Rubbish. Who do you think you are. Get a real copywriter to do it. Someone like me."

      Or just, "Rubbish."
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    • Profile picture of the author ruslanfls
      Originally Posted by shawnlebrun View Post

      Rus,

      I started my online career as a personal trainer back in
      2001 and went on to sell millions in the fitness niche.

      So first off, congrats on being online. You'd be surprised
      how many personal trainers still have no web presence.

      The big issue I see with your site... is that it's simply
      way too busy and cluttered to get someone to do the
      ONE thing you want them to do: which is probably
      to contact you for a consult.

      So the more options, links, and other
      distractions you have on the site, the less likely
      the chance of them taking that one action you want.

      Too many choices = them not making the
      one you want them to make.

      Always remember... if a site is too busy,
      then the site visitor will probably not be
      able to focus on what you offer. There are
      just too many things going on.

      So, start with the end result in mind,
      and work backwards...

      If you know your goal is to get
      them to contact you for a consult,
      then your site should be set up
      simply, cleanly, and easily... so that
      choice is the one they're most likely
      to take.

      When I was doing one-on-one personal
      training in person, I was getting 4 out of
      every 10 site visitors to contact me, and
      I was using a one-page site.

      Again, I started with the end goal in mind,
      a consult, and then wrote the copy so that
      it led them to make that call.

      John Carlton calls it a "greased
      slide" where someone lands on your
      page, sees a benefit-filled headline,
      and then you lead them right down the
      page, like a greased slide, to the order form.

      THAT is how you want your site set up.

      The copy in the first few paragraphs is
      simply not engaging, it's too "wordy"

      You don't want to use words like
      "caveats" or "diminutive"... but rather
      more in the way you'd talk to a client.

      Out of the thousands I've trained, I don't
      think either of those words left my lips.

      Think simple, easy, friendly, one-on-one
      conversation that drips with empathy
      and understanding.

      Stick with black text on a light background,
      your orange text on blue background simply
      makes it tough to read.

      There's a reason why all newspapers are
      black text on light paper... it's easiest
      to read.

      Your site is just hard to read, there's
      too much going on, and you have a lot
      of barriers that people have to go through
      before you get them to call.

      One HUGE positive you have, Rus, is that
      you've got a ton of great proof elements
      in your success stories.

      That, my friend, should be the foundation
      of your marketing... you obviously do a
      great job... take that and run with it.

      I've seen some very wealthy trainers with
      less proof than you, so great job with that.

      I think you need a bit of copy help, but also
      some layout and design work so that you have
      that "greased slide" to get people to call.
      Shawn, this is some awesome advice man!

      I will trim the fat and simply the page a little bit and make my prospects life a bit easier.

      One of my pet pevees is a 'busy' looking site, gotta say, it stings a bit to hear that my site is busy. I do agree with everything you said, will take time to make these changes. Kind of sucks since it's a brand new site, but you live and you learn

      Thank you for your input, this was very helpfull.

      Question. Any way you can expand on how you 'work backwards' in order to get your prospects to take action and schedule a consult with you "Again, I started with the end goal in mind,
      a consult, and then wrote the copy so that
      it led them to make that call." I would love to learn more about this.

      Thank a lot man!
      Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author Sean Walker
    I agree with Shawn.

    While it looks visually stunning, there is alot going on.

    If it's a sales page, let it just be a sales page - it's not clear what you want the
    visitor to do. Opt-in? Request a consultation? Read through your training pages
    in the footer? Click through the navbar?

    Too many choices.

    I also recommend removing the "Read More" buttons in the testimonials.

    Having them click away in the middle of your pitch isn't a great idea.

    Great work so far though. I can see it doing very well.

    Edit: On your Request a confirmation form, replace "Confirm Your Request
    for a Consultation:"
    with another benefit as to why they should request a consultation.

    Express again exactly what they're getting from it.

    Don't stop selling too early.
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    • Profile picture of the author ruslanfls
      Originally Posted by Sean Walker View Post

      I agree with Shawn.

      While it looks visually stunning, there is alot going on.

      If it's a sales page, let it just be a sales page - it's not clear what you want the
      visitor to do. Opt-in? Request a consultation? Read through your training pages
      in the footer? Click through the navbar?

      Too many choices.

      I also recommend removing the "Read More" buttons in the testimonials.

      Having them click away in the middle of your pitch isn't a great idea.

      Great work so far though. I can see it doing very well.

      Edit: On your Request a confirmation form, replace "Confirm Your Request
      for a Consultation:"
      with another benefit as to why they should request a consultation.

      Express again exactly what they're getting from it.

      Don't stop selling too early.
      Sound advice here man.
      I'll simply the page and remove those 'read more' buttons.

      The primary goal is the consult, so I guess I should just remove that 'sweet tooth' solution and maybe replace it with a different kind of opt - in something to do with '7 proven steps to get the scale moving...' report, or should I just place another opt-in for 'book your FREE consult now with Ottawa Top Personal Trainer....valued at 247...'

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
    Thanks Rez, I appreciate that.

    I've had hard-ass coaches/mentors
    in the past... and I've also had
    coaches that taught me
    more with a "gentle hand"

    and the funny thing is, the ones
    who were more "gentle" seemed to
    get through to me, and those who
    were jerks... I just seemed to shut
    them off and shut off any attempts
    to "learn" from them.

    so, for me, i just think it's easier to
    learn if the person doing the teaching
    is more empathetic and understanding.

    so thank you, Rez, that means alot.
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    • Profile picture of the author ruslanfls
      Wow, let me process all this guys and I'll get back to you in a few...

      You just blew me away lol, I should have joined this forum during the developing stages of the site....
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  • Profile picture of the author jukeboxhero
    Dude seriously... you've got PROOF of what EVERYONE wants on your site (you just burried it at the bottom). Why not just cut out the crap and go for the jugular?

    Put your proof at the top (before and afters) with the headline to the effect of : Want Results Like This? Then watch this free video and discover "the magic" secret behind these drmatic transformations.... or whatever...

    This works because...

    1. people are always looking for the "magic solution", so your offering them exactly what they want.

    2. your lead magnet basically tells stories (which everyone loves) about life before and after they found the "magic solution".

    3. Obviously the "magic solution" that they all share in common is you.

    4. write your follow up sequence to highlight success in your lead magnet.

    5. Anchor all the success stories to "It all started with a call to...."

    that's my 2 cents...
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    • Profile picture of the author ruslanfls
      Originally Posted by jukeboxhero View Post

      Dude seriously... you've got PROOF of what EVERYONE wants on your site (you just burried it at the bottom). Why not just cut out the crap and go for the jugular?

      Put your proof at the top (before and afters) with the headline to the effect of : Want Results Like This? Then watch this free video and discover "the magic" secret behind these drmatic transformations.... or whatever...

      This works because...

      1. people are always looking for the "magic solution", so your offering them exactly what they want.

      2. your lead magnet basically tells stories (which everyone loves) about life before and after they found the "magic solution".

      3. Obviously the "magic solution" that they all share in common is you.

      4. write your follow up sequence to highlight success in your lead magnet.

      5. Anchor all the success stories to "It all started with a call to...."

      that's my 2 cents...
      Great Idea. I'm actually in the end stages of developing another site for myself, i will use this very strategy and test it out. What video are you referring too - testimonials?
      What did you mean here: write your follow up sequence to highlight success in your lead magnet.

      Thanks
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