A great ad writing lesson from Bob Parsons (GoDaddy founder)

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"Most advertising is like a fat guy. It's not offensive, everybody likes it, but it doesn't get much action."

- Bob Parsons, founder of GoDaddy.com
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  • Profile picture of the author Moriarty
    He doesn't get it. It doesn't matter what he thinks, it matters what he does. He will have all his defenses up - only there will be just one that intrigues him.

    Starts a tickle in the back of his mind.

    Wonders, clicks through to have a quick look, likes what he sees and wonders to himself if it wasn't the one thing he needed to help tidy his desk. Or whatever.

    Stick to the day job, Bob Parsons.

    Mind you it doesn't matter to marketers that he doesn't get it - explaining what motivates humans is perhaps the most difficult thing on our planet*. Especially when everyone wants to rationalize it. Because such rationalizations make all the assumptions that top marketers have dug into, understand and employ in their advertising.

    *With the possible exception of the impulse behind that motivation. That's when the sparks fly.
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    • Profile picture of the author Nick Brighton
      Originally Posted by Moriarty View Post

      He doesn't get it. It doesn't matter what he thinks, it matters what he does. He will have all his defenses up - only there will be just one that intrigues him.

      Starts a tickle in the back of his mind.

      Wonders, clicks through to have a quick look, likes what he sees and wonders to himself if it wasn't the one thing he needed to help tidy his desk. Or whatever.

      Stick to the day job, Bob Parsons.

      Mind you it doesn't matter to marketers that he doesn't get it - explaining what motivates humans is perhaps the most difficult thing on our planet*. Especially when everyone wants to rationalize it. Because such rationalizations make all the assumptions that top marketers have dug into, understand and employ in their advertising.

      *With the possible exception of the impulse behind that motivation. That's when the sparks fly.
      I understood the bolded line, the rest, well, I pass.

      Ironically, the part I understood was also the part that made me laugh the hardest.

      Yes Bob, you don't get it. Stick to your day job of running a multi-million dollar business in one of the most competitive industries, making one of the dullest products you could ever sell, actually sound exciting.

      Sure, Bob doesn't create the ads himself. But he knows how to find a darn good agency who understand that advertising and marketing is ultimately served best as a form of entertainment with a clear, simple message that matches their market perfectly.

      Stick to the day job Bob.
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      • Profile picture of the author Pusateri
        Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

        I understood the bolded line, the rest, well, I pass.

        Ironically, the part I understood was also the part that made me laugh the hardest.

        Yes Bob, you don't get it. Stick to your day job of running a multi-million dollar business in one of the most competitive industries, making one of the dullest products you could ever sell, actually sound exciting.

        Sure, Bob doesn't create the ads himself. But he knows how to find a darn good agency who understand that advertising and marketing is ultimately served best as a form of entertainment with a clear, simple message that matches their market perfectly.

        Stick to the day job Bob.
        They've been brilliant at creating Top-of-mind awareness in that category.

        You always remember it was a Godaddy ad, unlike so many campaigns where you remember the ad but not the advertiser.

        Smart naming too. I'm sure there were plenty-o dunces saying, "You don't even have domain or registration in your name. How's anybody on that internet gonna know what you do?"
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      • Profile picture of the author deezn
        Originally Posted by Nick Brighton View Post

        I understood the bolded line, the rest, well, I pass.

        Ironically, the part I understood was also the part that made me laugh the hardest.

        Yes Bob, you don't get it. Stick to your day job of running a multi-million dollar business in one of the most competitive industries, making one of the dullest products you could ever sell, actually sound exciting.

        Sure, Bob doesn't create the ads himself. But he knows how to find a darn good agency who understand that advertising and marketing is ultimately served best as a form of entertainment with a clear, simple message that matches their market perfectly.

        Stick to the day job Bob.
        It's reported that Godaddy is worth $3-4 billion. Not a bad day job.
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  • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
    I'll be honest: I cannot remember a single GoDaddy ad campaign. All I remember from them is that if you search for hosting, the first PAID ad that comes up is invariably GoDaddy.

    I also notice that this ad invariably says: hosting just $1.99/$2.99/$0.99.

    They're in a market place where many, many people need their service every day. They're in a market place where, let's face it, a large chunk of the market want everything cheap.

    EDIT: So the ads were US only anyway. That would be why I never saw one :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Moriarty
    Isn't it interesting how those in the US think it was effective advertising - and those who don't, well ... don't?

    Have they been brilliant at their job - or just leveraged a lot of paid advertising to crack a nut that they could have cracked with 100x less spend and some insight?

    Oh, and what is so memorable about "Go Daddy"? Is it parental services or family law suits? What has GoDaddy to do with hosting? Or am I missing something that is obvious to people who use lots of money to get any old name known in their chosen field? Because that's what it sounds like to me.

    Now Hostgator - that is rather better at telling people about what the company does. Mind you, they are selling family law suits, aren't they?
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    • Profile picture of the author Pusateri
      Originally Posted by Moriarty View Post

      Isn't it interesting how those in the US think it was effective advertising - and those who don't, well ... don't?

      Have they been brilliant at their job - or just leveraged a lot of paid advertising to crack a nut that they could have cracked with 100x less spend and some insight?

      Oh, and what is so memorable about "Go Daddy"? Is it parental services or family law suits? What has GoDaddy to do with hosting? Or am I missing something that is obvious to people who use lots of money to get any old name known in their chosen field? Because that's what it sounds like to me.

      Now Hostgator - that is rather better at telling people about what the company does. Mind you, they are selling family law suits, aren't they?
      A couple months ago I asked my partner to move our hosting to Hostgator. All our sites are now at Hostmonster. She swears I said Hostmonster. Maybe I did. But I meant Hostgator.

      Godaddy is a better name precisely because it is unrelated to the category. Since you seem to have read all the neuro marketing books, I'm surprised you don't know that makes it easier to remember.

      A category leader with a keyword integral to its name is as rare as steak tartare.

      Amazon is not a riverine company.

      Google has no goo to sell you.

      eBay is not a fishing site.

      Caterpillar will not supply you with inch worms.

      And Apple won't keep the doctor away, but it did name a product iPod, which it may surprise you to learn, has nothing to do with cyber-peas.

      Go read The 22 Immutable Laws of Branding. The Rieses will get you straightened up.
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  • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
    Moriarty, I don't think the company name has to tell you what they do. Pepsi and Coke (to tap into that other thread ) don't have "carbonated soft drinks" in their company names. Nike doesn't say "trainers", French Connection doesn't tell you it's clothing.

    More important is to have a name that is memorable. Go Daddy is memorable, for one reason or another. If you asked me to name hosting providers, Go Daddy would be the first I mentioned, not Hostgator. On the other hand, I don't use them and never would.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moriarty
    Amazon - the word defies description

    Google - this was something to do with the concept. You may not know this but the Stanford guys got it wrong. They wanted the name Googol - not Google. Googol was a mathematician with hankerings for the abstract - not as abstact as Graham - but abstract nonetheless. A Googol is 10 raised to the power 100. Big, and very abstract. You don't find many of them unless you inhabit a bank and deal in futures derivatives.

    eBay - totally abstract.

    Caterpillar - referring to the way the tracks moved. V. Clever and has nothing to do with butterflies save the movements of their offspring.

    Apple - abstract branding. But then computers are pretty abstract, aren't they?

    As to branding - that is manipulation of emotions at the basest level. In economic terms it is a blunt tool that needs a lot of muscle to lift it. As my father always said: you lift with your head not your arms - and for a girl, that is good advice indeed.

    Lifting a sharp implement is always more effective than a blunt one is. This goes for branding just as it does for Adwords or the printed media. Not to mention engineering.

    So give me one good reason to study the lifting of large heavy objects when I can use nutcrackers to do the same job?
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    • Profile picture of the author Pusateri
      Originally Posted by Moriarty View Post

      Amazon - the word defies description

      Google - this was something to do with the concept. You may not know this but the Stanford guys got it wrong. They wanted the name Googol - not Google. Googol was a mathematician with hankerings for the abstract - not as abstact as Graham - but abstract nonetheless. A Googol is 10 raised to the power 100. Big, and very abstract. You don't find many of them unless you inhabit a bank and deal in futures derivatives.

      eBay - totally abstract.

      Caterpillar - referring to the way the tracks moved. V. Clever and has nothing to do with butterflies save the movements of their offspring.

      Apple - abstract branding. But then computers are pretty abstract, aren't they?

      As to branding - that is manipulation of emotions at the basest level. In economic terms it is a blunt tool that needs a lot of muscle to lift it. As my father always said: you lift with your head not your arms - and for a girl, that is good advice indeed.

      Lifting a sharp implement is always more effective than a blunt one is. This goes for branding just as it does for Adwords or the printed media. Not to mention engineering.

      So give me one good reason to study the lifting of large heavy objects when I can use nutcrackers to do the same job?
      Ignoring the straw man you set up in your redefinition of branding.

      Do you have a point about "abstraction" in naming businesses, or is this just mental effluvium?
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  • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
    I'm sorry Moriarty, I don't think I understand your point.

    IMO, you need something memorable as your company name. What's going to stick in the mind more: Amazon or Books R Us; Warrior Forum or The Internet Marketing Forum; Premium Orange Juice or Tropicana?

    That's not branding, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Ask the average person where to buy a domain name. I'd guess 99% would say "GoDaddy", and less than 5% would even know of an alternative.

    I'd say they're doing fine with their ads.

    Anyone who watched the Super Bowl will remember the ad with the nerd making out with the hot girl for a long time. It was pretty disgusting, but it made everyone pay attention and people talked about it like crazy, so it did its job.

    Their commercials always have a call to action to visit their website, which is marketing 101 to us but virtually non-existent in the business world.

    They've got smart loss-leaders (Get Your .99 Domain!) and a sales funnel that makes even seasoned marketers look like rookies.

    "Great, you've added your domain! Would you like hosting? .Biz/.info/.org/.co? Private registration? 5 years registration? Additional emails? SSL? A website builder? SEO? SEM consulting? Bundle and save!"

    Their funnel runs deep.

    I'd be willing to bet money that while they're advertising .99 domains their average transaction size is probably in the $50+ range per order.

    Originally Posted by Moriarty View Post

    Isn't it interesting how those in the US think it was effective advertising - and those who don't, well ... don't?
    That could be because the US is their target market, just a hunch.

    I'm not a big GoDaddy fan personally.

    But as far as marketing goes I think they're doing fine.
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  • The reason Mr Jobs called his computer company "Apple"

    Was because (in the old days), you looked for stuff in Yellow Pages - and it would be at the top of the listing.


    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Steve The Copywriter View Post

      The reason Mr Jobs called his computer company "Apple"

      Was because (in the old days), you looked for stuff in Yellow Pages - and it would be at the top of the listing.


      Steve
      Completely untrue.

      I was one of the first ones to write ads for Apple.

      It was named that because of his work experience.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

        Completely untrue.

        I was one of the first ones to write ads for Apple.

        It was named that because of his work experience.
        Close, but no banana. Steve Jobs had a summer job at an apple farm. (He thought apples were the perfect fruit) But the name was also influenced by the name of The Beatles record label.

        The first logo design included Sir Isaac Newton, a tree and a banner reading "Apple Computer." That morphed into just an apple - then an apple with a bite out of it.

        Back in 1982 I was writing on an Apple II and an Apple knockoff from Taiwan called ... a "Peach". Typesetting was sent to the printer on a Wang (commonly referred to as the Wing Wang).

        Dude...if you were working on the Apple account...you must be even older than I am. Apple was founded on April Fools Day 1976 and the Apple II came out in 1977. 36 years ago. You must have been a boy genius. Or once again you're telling porkies.

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        • Profile picture of the author max5ty
          Originally Posted by The Copy Nazi View Post

          Close, but no banana.

          Back in 1982 I was writing on an Apple II and an Apple knockoff from Taiwan called ... a "Peach".
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          LOL...you were using an Apple because I wrote the ads for them.
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          • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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            Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

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            LOL...you were using an Apple because I wrote the ads for them.
            Fascinating. Please share the spots (you claim) you wrote.
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  • Well, it does goes back to his days working in the apple orchards.

    Apparently, he was enjoying a “fruitarian diet” and thought the simple name was “fun, spirited, and not intimidating“

    And of course the Ads were always at the top of yellow pages.


    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Steve The Copywriter View Post

      And of course the Ads were always at the top of yellow pages.


      Steve
      Yes, that was (not) important when they were giving away so much.

      OMG, I remember looking through the YP's for...
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  • ...one of those new fangled computers.

    And there it was - an Apple Ad.

    Perfect.


    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Steve The Copywriter View Post

      ...one of those new fangled computers...

      And there is was - an Apple Ad.

      Perfect.


      Steve
      Something you might not know...

      When we were first having a "pow wow" on what we thought might work...

      a guy named Steve thought we should keep things simple...

      I agreed.
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    Mal...you're being stupid.

    82? Yeah...I remember that as being a big year for Apple...

    Give me a break.

    You're making yourself look dumb.
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    • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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      Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

      Mal...you're being stupid.

      82? Yeah...I remember that as being a big year for Apple...

      Give me a break.

      You're making yourself look dumb.
      How so? I said I started working on an Apple in 1982. As in, I wrote copy using a computer for the first time - instead of an electric typewriter or a word processor. How is that "making yourself look dumb"?
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  • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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    Apple's first print ad - July 1976. Spot the typo.

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  • Profile picture of the author DavidG
    A lot of registrars could also learn from GoDaddy's agressive up-sells. You'll go bankrupt just selling a domain once. Just like most successful products out there.... it's all in the back-end.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moriarty
    Nope.

    Branding is for those who don't have much imagination. Those who use it usually have no choice but to continue. Those who have the choice choose more effective methods. If that is a straw man, burn it. If you do, you will lose the secret it holds for you.

    So I will ask you again to satisfy my inquisitiveness. How do you define branding?
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    • Profile picture of the author Pusateri
      Originally Posted by Moriarty View Post

      Nope.

      Branding is for those who don't have much imagination. Those who use it usually have no choice but to continue. Those who have the choice choose more effective methods. If that is a straw man, burn it. If you do, you will lose the secret it holds for you.

      So I will ask you again to satisfy my inquisitiveness. How do you define branding?
      Pay attention.

      Gave you my definition here: http://www.warriorforum.com/copywrit...ml#post7711404

      If you find mine too "abstract," try one of these: 30 Branding Definitions | Heidi Cohen

      All except 8, 13, 15 and 27 are acceptable to a greater or lesser extent, though any of them beat your definition of, "attempting to speak to everyone, everywhere. Like the Walmart brand, CocaCola etc."

      One more thing.

      There was no mathematician called Googol. I don't know about elsewhere, but every kid in Texas of my generation learned what a googol is and it's origin as part of a fifth grade math lesson. And it's not used by bankers or derivatives traders.
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      • Profile picture of the author The Copy Nazi
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        Originally Posted by Pusateri View Post

        There was no mathematician called Googol. I don't know about elsewhere, but every kid in Texas of my generation learned what a googol is and it's origin as part of a fifth grade math lesson. And it's not used by bankers or derivatives traders.
        Origin of GOOGOL

        coined by Milton Sirotta b ab 1929 nephew of Edward Kasner †1955 American mathematicianFirst Known Use: 1938
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