Corporations slowly embrace direct-response

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Just read an interesting article about the profession that has suffered the most job losses in the past 10 years in the U.S.

Care to guess the sector?

It's Advertising and Promotion managers. A 65% job loss since 2002.

Now the article suggests the reasons are a decline in print advertising coupled with lower ad budgets for durable goods, especially cars when that U.S. industry almost went under couple years ago.

But I like to think companies are embracing direct-response over rah-rah look at me b.s. ads.

In the '90's I was with a large corporation. I started the direct marketing dept. when we had 250 employees and left 7 years later as we topped out at 2,500 employees.

They pretty much left me alone as the 'numbers' were always there.

But management still did many crazy promotions, wasted brochures, brag and boast ads- all created by cubes full of a clueless band of 'branders.'

And you only have to go to a corporate website, read a publication or turn on the T.V. to see inefficient advertising dollars are still flooding the market.

Just last year I was doing the 3rd project for a major U.S. corporation and they wanted me to help one of their customers get better results with their co-op ad budget.

It was in B2B and naturally, I developed a direct mail program.

When we had a conference call the barely above intern level marketing person at the company looked at my work and said...

..."there is too much copy. Less is more."

So even with the massive reduction in so-called Advertising and Promotion manager positions over the last 10 years, they still have a long way to go to clean out all the dead wood.

Anyway, here's a link to the article.

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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Cohen
    Originally Posted by OutOfThisWord View Post


    But I like to think companies are embracing direct-response over rah-rah look at me b.s. ads.
    The rest of your post seems to prove just the opposite.

    When you say, "I like to think" - what does that mean... you're hoping they do?

    Alex
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    I don't personally see very much movement with corporations.

    I've worked with a few...

    ...and the amount of worthless people the copy has to go through to see the light of day is stupidly ridiculous.

    I worked for a value-added company a few months ago that still hasn't tested the copy.

    Everything has to be just so.

    Personally...

    I'm up for the challenge - if the people in their marketing department GET it. But if they've been brainwashed by useless leverage of dumbed-down pagent branding, it's a lost cause.

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  • Profile picture of the author ECTally
    I'm afraid I don't see it that way, mate.

    In a downturn, the A&P and sales people are usually the first to go.
    Considering that the '07 subprime mortgage crisis led to the worst depression in 80 years, I would think this makes a lot of sense.

    With that being said, I would advise looking at the cited numbers a little more cautiously.
    It was written by a content mill, using stats provided by a job site.
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    Originally Posted by OutOfThisWord View Post


    But I like to think companies are embracing direct-response over rah-rah look at me b.s. ads.
    Large companies have been using direct response for a long time.

    Example, Coke and Pepsi...get a code under the cap, visit the website, etc.

    Some jobs are being lost, while others gained because companies are redirecting more of their ad budgets to inbound marketing versus outbound.

    But here's what gets me...

    All these people that bitch about brand advertising. They forget these large companies aren't selling an ebook out of their laundry room/home office...and most aren't in the business of selling their product directly to consumers...it's all done through the use of retailers.

    Let's take Proctor and Gamble as an example, and let's take their product Tide.

    They make Tide at large factories. The product gets shipped from large factories to retailers around the world.

    So now let's say you want to advertise Tide. You don't want people showing up to the factory to buy a bag of pods...you want them to go to their favorite store and pick them up.

    How do you advertise all the thousands and thousands of stores that carry your product?

    You don't.

    You do brand advertising so the customer picks your product when they're confronted with dozens of different species on a grocery store shelf.

    Brand advertising serves more than one purpose. It sways the customer to your brand, and it also entices the retailers to stock your product. If you're a retailer wouldn't you want to carry the most popular products?

    Brand advertising is not a waste of money.

    Anyways...

    Proctor and Gamble (and other large companies) also do direct response advertising in the way of coupons, etc.

    So, these guys that harp against brand advertising have no clue what they're talking about. Their whole concept of the world revolves around a sales page put up on a website. There are mega players out there with a whole lot more employees, product, stock holders and overhead than a home run marketing/copywriting tip/hack/get rich BS website.

    It's a big world out there.

    Now, we could probably argue as to whether or not some of the image advertising is worth a shit...but that's a whole separate matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author ECTally
      Max, you should post more often. The core discussion around these parts often revolves exclusively around IM/DS copywriting - a sector I'm guessing you're not a native off.
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      • Profile picture of the author JakeDaly
        Originally Posted by ECTally View Post

        Max, you should post more often. The core discussion around these parts often revolves exclusively around IM/DS copywriting - a sector I'm guessing you're not a native off.
        Does anyone know of any forum that deals with more of max-esque type of posts? My company hasn't written a single page for IM-related products, and I don't plan on ever doing so. But this is literally the only copywriting forum on the net, it seems.
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