Help a confused rookie today

Start with learning how to write a cohesive sentence that incorporates correct grammar and punctuation. And take the time to break your writing up into short paragraphs, not clunky blocks of text.

From what you've written here it sounds like English is your second language. If you want anyone to hire you, get a handle on the basics of writing first.

Instead of focusing on what you want to get out of writing copy, think about what you have to offer that other people will pay you for.

Perfect grammar doesn't really matter - but readability does. Your opening paragraph is barely legible and borders of gibberish.

Quote "I am just studing to write copy for quick profit more fun and challenge in the future when I am more capable and have time to grow in skillset. I find the prospect of working for others frightening after several attempts at being a good slave. There has been some great threads to read here but I only have so much time to read all 1000 so appreciate answers to a couple basic questions"

I can get the basic drift of what you are saying but if you wasa consumer I wouldn't make it past the first sentence.

Good copywriters know that they need to write in a way that is easily understood. I'm not saying it needs to be a literary masterpiece, but you need to get the basics right.

My advice was intended to be constructive, despite what you may think. The only thing people have to go by is what you've written. Your post gave the impression you don't know how to write coherently, which is why I suggested this is the first thing you need to work on.

If you send out a proposal to someone asking to do any kind of writing for them, and your proposal is littered with mistakes, do you think they will hire you?

Thanks for the input. I think the lesson learned here. Be aware of the format and tools. Writing inside the box supplied here can be strange compared to MS Word it is two different worlds. However, I see all of the points on readability, short sentences. Good structure and readability no matter what the medium of communication are key to any desired success.
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Especially looking at how many times I have seen other Warriors that do sometimes offer overflow work to newbies. I can see where its best to not put out anything that can be read, regardless of medium that you wouldnt be proud of.

You're right that simple language is all that's needed to write effective copy.

The problem is...

That's not what you're doing in any of your posts.

You're a confused rookie, right?

Let's agree that your only job right now is to listen, learn, apply, reapply... and keep asking.

You're in NO position to ask anyone for their money. Not yet. Not for a while - from what I can see.

I will give you props for thing...

Basic business ethics is a lost art.

Too many people hustling for their next bite - instead of making sure the bites they've received are happy fish.

If You Smell What The Mark Is Smoking!

Mark

Sometimes I can't believe how nice people can be on this board.

OP, your language is miles away from where it needs to be to write copy that converts. At least from what I see here.

OP, the "majority who responded don't do it" probably did so because you do NOT sound like a human being. You're not able to string a semi-coherent sentence together, at least not yet.

If I may give you a piece of advice it would be pay less attention right now to all the salesmanship and focus on how real people talk instead. (I'm of course operating under the assumption that you want to work in the American market. It might be different if you're targeting Martians.)

It says under your username that you're located in Iowa. Well, go out more. LISTEN to people. Plus READ. Not only sales copy but magazines and books, too. Watch TV shows. And write the way people naturally speak.

I'm gonna get off that high horse now... Best of luck to you and keep trying. That's how you go places.

Hi Marketing Static,

We all have to start SOMEWHERE, right?

With that thought in mind...

Here are some things I would recommend for you to do to boost your training and future success as a copywriter.

First is find a ton of cheap writing paper and COPY BY HAND sales letters that sell! (Be sure to get a good flowing ink pen to do this which is easy to write with. I prefer the new roller ball pens.)

Now one of the easiest sales letters to write is an Internet Marketing sales letter, for selling something you LIKE. Pick a topic you may have as a hobby or something you could see yourself writing a sales letter for on a product you might want to sell someday.

You can go to Clickbank.com and create a free account and then click the "Marketplace" tab and find a ton of high converting sales letters you can copy to get you off to a good start.

By writing about something you are interested in you are actively engaged with copying it over. And because it about a topic you like, generally that means you will stick with it longer. Plus, doing this helps you with your sentence structure, grammer, word useage, how a sales letter is constructed, and you will start to feel how the sales letter flows like a slippery slide to the buy button -- and a whole lot more!

*HERE'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THIS*

What copying out a sales letter by hand does for you are all these things...

1. It helps your mind and your hands start to work together (self-trains your mind) so you start to 'think and write' like a copywriter.

2. Writing the sales letter out by hand also helps to make you use both sides of your brain, which most copywriters do automatically.

By this I mean by looking at the copy you are copying from, this uses one side of your brain, and then while concentrating to actually write the copy out by hand, uses another side of your brain.

In scientific terms this helps to increase the amount of neural pathways between the right and left hemispheres of your brain which will (in the long run) help you think and write more like a copywriter writes.

3. By writing the same sales letter over and over (seveal times!) you will find the sales letter sort of gets "inside your brain". With repetition you start feeling the flow and the cadance of the copy. (How it has a certain rhythum to the words, length of the sentences etc.)

When you can feel this it is so much easier to SEE why a certain sales letter SELLS BETTER than another.

It takes time and effort but the rewards are certainly worth it.

4. Another thing to do is just copy out headlines and the lead in or (deck copy) for several sales letters in the SAME NICHE.

When you do that you will find similar themes and words and phrases which are used to EVOKE EMOTIONS which are key to hitting the nerve (finding the hook) for a niche product.

If you go to the top dating sites you can see this clearly illustrated.

5. Another thing I personally do when I am relaxing is I was the Made for TV Station Products and write down the catchy slogans and sales comments the sales person is making about the item for sale. You will find many gems you can use in your copy (edit them of course) to give you new ideas for your sales letters.

6. Another thing you can do when your hands are sore from writing the copy by hand (and it will be!) is you can print out sales letters and then take a yellow highligher and see if you can find the "hook", the main theme and reasons why they are selling this and what problems it solves and at the end how they justify the price and ask for the sale.

You will be surprised if you do this for a couple similar sales letters how close the same elements show up again and again.

Once you can recognize this then you will be a good way down the road to thinking like a copywriter and then it is just practice, practice, practice.

Good luck!

Jennie Heckel
Sales Letter Copywriter

Hi Marketingstatic,

Please know that the members in this wonderful forum do really
want to help their fellow warrior members succeed in their personal
endeavors. And many of them often times go out of their way to
provide the help and guidance others are seeking.

I am not speaking for Tim R, but I am almost sure that the intent was
not to "insult" you at all, but instead to offer help.

Remember, you were the one who initiated the conversation by asking
for help or guidance.

Please do not feel offended.

If you would listen to Chriswrighto and edgeyy66 and the others, and take
their advice, you would be surprise just how well you do in moving forward
to your goal.

Best of luck, Marketingstatic.

Alodie

People have already commented on your writing, so regarding your other points:

That's not going to happen. You have to prove yourself or at least have samples before anyone is going to take a chance on you. Also, even if you were working on your own product, that takes time and energy. If you're looking to make fast money this is not the right career for you.

The closest thing I can think of would be to get involved with CPA marketing, so you'd be writing headlines and possibly landing pages... but that requires spending money to get started.

You do realize that even as a freelancer you'll be working for other people, right?

In fact, you'll likely be working for multiple clients who may only give you brief assignments (unsteady income), skip out on paying you at all (so you'll have to track them down) or otherwise ask you to revise your work just as if you were their "slave."

If true freedom is what you're after, you're better off either creating a product and selling it with your own sales page/copy or marketing affiliate products.

You're talking about niches here, right? Honestly I think it's a common misconception that you should pick a "micro-niche" to target. Yes, you might have the best Malaysian organic bean sprout website in the world, but your market is going to max out after a short period of time.

Better to pick a BIG industry: fitness, dating, personal development, finance, etc - and carve out a place for yourself to grow.