Copy Critique Request: What do you think about this copy?

by cank Banned
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Hey everyone,

Can you please be the most honest as possible with this?

I want to know your opinion about my new copy, written by a warrior member, at my opinion it's very good, i like it, but i would like to know you what you have to say about it, can you help me out? the copy is at [url deleted] (is ok the url or i have to paste it in here?)


Thank you for your help!
#copy #critique #jokes #lawyers #request
  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
    Is your offer legitimate?

    Because it sure doesn't look like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author drem
      Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

      Is your offer legitimate?

      Because it sure doesn't look like it.
      Funny enough, his offer is probably legitimate. A lot of authors give out coupons for their course for free and have a limit. He is probably taking them from another source and selling them. I am a member of another forum that has these courses listed in a thread that is updated often.

      As for the copy, at a quick glance, it looks good. I have never seen the phrase, "burning their credit card" before, but it may be common in other areas of the world.
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  • Profile picture of the author cank
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    • Profile picture of the author Andrew Gould
      Originally Posted by cank View Post

      It's legit, please try it by yourself:
      Thank you, but I meant do you have the right to make the offer?

      Has Udemy and/or the individual instructors given you permission to sell their material like this?
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      • Profile picture of the author cank
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        Originally Posted by Andrew Gould View Post

        Thank you, but I meant do you have the right to make the offer?

        Has Udemy and/or the individual instructors given you permission to sell their material like this?
        kind of, just enjoy, pal
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    • Profile picture of the author shawnlebrun
      Originally Posted by cank View Post

      Thank you very much for your opinion, what do you think I can do to prevent the user thinks is a scam? any help?
      If it's not a scam, try to get someone from Udemy to say this is authorized. Try and get written permission from them, saying that your "club" is legit.

      Because the way it is now, if it's not, you can be sure they'll find out and shut you down.

      If you want to have users think it's for real, you'll need more proof... and if it's legit, ask Udemy to verify it and then stick that up on top of your site.

      But my spidey senses are tingling... not sure if you'll be able to do this...
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      • Profile picture of the author cank
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        Originally Posted by shawnlebrun View Post

        If it's not a scam, try to get someone from Udemy to say this is authorized. Try and get written permission from them, saying that your "club" is legit.

        Because the way it is now, if it's not, you can be sure they'll find out and shut you down.

        If you want to have users think it's for real, you'll need more proof... and if it's legit, ask Udemy to verify it and then stick that up on top of your site.

        But my spidey senses are tingling... not sure if you'll be able to do this...
        It's not a scam because you actually can get access to that courses. Other thing is that we don't have permission to do it.

        So, what do you think about the letter?
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        • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
          Originally Posted by cank View Post

          It's not a scam because you actually can get access to that courses. Other thing is that we don't have permission to do it.

          So, what do you think about the letter?
          You don't get it; no one is going to help you with your copy here because you are attempting to sell something you don't have the right to sell.

          While you're at it, maybe we could help you write sales copy for a pirated movie business you want to start, or perhaps a VSL for your new Meth delivery service?

          PS- I just emailed your site to Udemy. Let's see if you can get that permission you were looking for
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    Cank, I'm going to be blunt.

    This reeks of a scam. And your lack of forthrightness doesn't help.

    There's a right way to do business. This isn't it.

    Whoever wrote your copy should return your money and the offer needs to disappear.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author cank
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      Originally Posted by Mark Pescetti View Post

      Cank, I'm going to be blunt.

      This reeks of a scam. And your lack of forthrightness doesn't help.

      There's a right way to do business. This isn't it.

      Whoever wrote your copy should return your money and the offer needs to disappear.

      Mark

      Is not a scam, Mark, i already publish an account, please log in and try it.
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  • Profile picture of the author cank
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    So, anyone with an opinion about my letter?

    you guys are judging the product, not the letter.

    if it lacks of forthrightness, how can improve that?
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
    U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright Law: Chapter 5

    § 504. Remedies for infringement: Damages and profits5

    (a) In General. — Except as otherwise provided by this title, an infringer of copyright is liable for either —

    (1) the copyright owner's actual damages and any additional profits of the infringer, as provided by subsection (b); or

    (2) statutory damages, as provided by subsection (c).

    (b) Actual Damages and Profits. — The copyright owner is entitled to recover the actual damages suffered by him or her as a result of the infringement, and any profits of the infringer that are attributable to the infringement and are not taken into account in computing the actual damages. In establishing the infringer's profits, the copyright owner is required to present proof only of the infringer's gross revenue, and the infringer is required to prove his or her deductible expenses and the elements of profit attributable to factors other than the copyrighted work.

    (c) Statutory Damages. —

    (1) Except as provided by clause (2) of this subsection, the copyright owner may elect, at any time before final judgment is rendered, to recover, instead of actual damages and profits, an award of statutory damages for all infringements involved in the action, with respect to any one work, for which any one infringer is liable individually, or for which any two or more infringers are liable jointly and severally, in a sum of not less than $750 or more than $30,000 as the court considers just. For the purposes of this subsection, all the parts of a compilation or derivative work constitute one work.

    (2) In a case where the copyright owner sustains the burden of proving, and the court finds, that infringement was committed willfully, the court in its discretion may increase the award of statutory damages to a sum of not more than $150,000. In a case where the infringer sustains the burden of proving, and the court finds, that such infringer was not aware and had no reason to believe that his or her acts constituted an infringement of copyright, the court in its discretion may reduce the award of statutory damages to a sum of not less than $200. The court shall remit statutory damages in any case where an infringer believed and had reasonable grounds for believing that his or her use of the copyrighted work was a fair use under section 107, if the infringer was: (i) an employee or agent of a nonprofit educational institution, library, or archives acting within the scope of his or her employment who, or such institution, library, or archives itself, which infringed by reproducing the work in copies or phonorecords; or (ii) a public broadcasting entity which or a person who, as a regular part of the nonprofit activities of a public broadcasting entity (as defined in section 118(f)) infringed by performing a published nondramatic literary work or by reproducing a transmission program embodying a performance of such a work.

    (3) (A) In a case of infringement, it shall be a rebuttable presumption that the infringement was committed willfully for purposes of determining relief if the violator, or a person acting in concert with the violator, knowingly provided or knowingly caused to be provided materially false contact information to a domain name registrar, domain name registry, or other domain name registration authority in registering, maintaining, or renewing a domain name used in connection with the infringement.

    (B) Nothing in this paragraph limits what may be considered willful infringement under this subsection.

    (C) For purposes of this paragraph, the term “domain name” has the meaning given that term in section 45 of the Act entitled “An Act to provide for the registration and protection of trademarks used in commerce, to carry out the provisions of certain international conventions, and for other purposes” approved July 5, 1946 (commonly referred to as the “Trademark Act of 1946”; 15 U.S.C. 1127).

    (d) Additional Damages in Certain Cases. — In any case in which the court finds that a defendant proprietor of an establishment who claims as a defense that its activities were exempt under section 110(5) did not have reasonable grounds to believe that its use of a copyrighted work was exempt under such section, the plaintiff shall be entitled to, in addition to any award of damages under this section, an additional award of two times the amount of the license fee that the proprietor of the establishment concerned should have paid the plaintiff for such use during the preceding period of up to 3 years.

    § 505. Remedies for infringement: Costs and attorney's fees

    In any civil action under this title, the court in its discretion may allow the recovery of full costs by or against any party other than the United States or an officer thereof. Except as otherwise provided by this title, the court may also award a reasonable attorney's fee to the prevailing party as part of the costs.

    § 506. Criminal offenses6

    (a) Criminal Infringement. —

    (1) In general. — Any person who willfully infringes a copyright shall be punished as provided under section 2319 of title 18, if the infringement was committed —

    (A) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain;

    (B) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000; or

    (C) by the distribution of a work being prepared for commercial distribution, by making it available on a computer network accessible to members of the public, if such person knew or should have known that the work was intended for commercial distribution.

    (2) Evidence. — For purposes of this subsection, evidence of reproduction or distribution of a copyrighted work, by itself, shall not be sufficient to establish willful infringement of a copyright.

    (3) Definition. — In this subsection, the term “work being prepared for commercial distribution” means —

    (A) a computer program, a musical work, a motion picture or other audiovisual work, or a sound recording, if, at the time of unauthorized distribution —

    (i) the copyright owner has a reasonable expectation of commercial distribution; and

    (ii) the copies or phonorecords of the work have not been commercially distributed; or

    (B) a motion picture, if, at the time of unauthorized distribution, the motion picture —

    (i) has been made available for viewing in a motion picture exhibition facility; and

    (ii) has not been made available in copies for sale to the general public in the United States in a format intended to permit viewing outside a motion picture exhibition facility.

    (b) Forfeiture, Destruction, and Restitution.—Forfeiture, destruction, and restitution relating to this section shall be subject to section 2323 of title 18, to the extent provided in that section, in addition to any other similar remedies provided by law.

    (c) Fraudulent Copyright Notice. — Any person who, with fraudulent intent, places on any article a notice of copyright or words of the same purport that such person knows to be false, or who, with fraudulent intent, publicly distributes or imports for public distribution any article bearing such notice or words that such person knows to be false, shall be fined not more than $2,500.

    (d) Fraudulent Removal of Copyright Notice. — Any person who, with fraudulent intent, removes or alters any notice of copyright appearing on a copy of a copyrighted work shall be fined not more than $2,500.

    (e) False Representation. — Any person who knowingly makes a false representation of a material fact in the application for copyright registration provided for by section 409, or in any written statement filed in connection with the application, shall be fined not more than $2,500.

    (f) Rights of Attribution and Integrity. — Nothing in this section applies to infringement of the rights conferred by section 106A(a).
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  • Profile picture of the author cank
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    this is hilarious.
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    • Profile picture of the author Cool Hand Luke
      Originally Posted by cank View Post

      this is hilarious.
      The fact that you're pirating intellectual property to try and make money yet still failing miserably at it?

      You're right, it's hilarious.
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      • Profile picture of the author cank
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        Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke View Post

        The fact that you're pirating intellectual property to try and make money yet still failing miserably at it?

        You're right, it's hilarious.
        Actually the letter is converting very well, thank you for your concern.
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        • Profile picture of the author maverick8
          Originally Posted by cank View Post

          Actually the letter is converting very well, thank you for your concern.
          I understand what your after Cank. But the fundamental issue is i dont think it matters if your sales letter is converting well or not. Because i think the profit you make will be used to fight the legal battle against Udemy.

          I think you have thought of an outside of the box idea and have put a lot of action into, hats off to you. But unfortunately you will have hard time keeping this afloat
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    • Profile picture of the author BrianMcLeod
      Originally Posted by cank View Post

      this is hilarious.
      Somehow I don't think Tim Parks, Director of Content at Udemy would think so.

      https://www.udemy.com/u/timparks/

      I'm absolutely sure the publishers of the courses don't find it funny - I wouldn't.

      Since "cank" isn't much to go by, maybe your IP address would help for remembering who we're all talking to in this thread:

      The IP Address is: 189.149.165.149
      The host name is: dsl-189-149-165-149-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx
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      • Profile picture of the author cank
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        Originally Posted by BrianMcLeod View Post

        Somehow I don't think Tim Parks, Director of Content at Udemy would think so.

        https://www.udemy.com/u/timparks/

        I'm absolutely sure the publishers of the courses don't find it funny - I wouldn't.

        Since "cank" isn't much to go by, maybe your IP address would help for remembering who we're all talking to in this thread:

        The IP Address is: 189.149.165.149
        The host name is: dsl-189-149-165-149-dyn.prod-infinitum.com.mx

        Ha, i'm at Mexico, so what?
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  • Profile picture of the author cank
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    Please continue.
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