Critique my copy, please. Personal development membership site

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Greetings Warriors,

I am launching a personal development membership site featuring a monthly subscription. I would be grateful if you would read the copy and give me some feedback before I begin to invest in traffic, product development, design, etc.

Right now, there are no design elements on the page at all except for my graphic header.

Check it out here Find Your Purpose in Life

I have tweaked this copy I don't know how many times in the last two weeks trying to refine the message. But, it feels like something is missing... or perhaps it's too wordy...

One thing I am is coachable and open. If you feel that certain things should be added or discarded, please let me know.

My goal is to speak to people's hearts and demonstrate the value of what I'm offering and make it a no-brainer opportunity for personal growth.

Thank you!

Derek
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  • Profile picture of the author doggerel
    Originally Posted by Derek Felton View Post

    Greetings Warriors,

    I am launching a personal development membership site featuring a monthly subscription. I would be grateful if you would read the copy and give me some feedback before I begin to invest in traffic, product development, design, etc.

    Right now, there are no design elements on the page at all except for my graphic header.

    Check it out here Find Your Purpose in Life

    I have tweaked this copy I don't know how many times in the last two weeks trying to refine the message. But, it feels like something is missing... or perhaps it's too wordy...

    One thing I am is coachable and open. If you feel that certain things should be added or discarded, please let me know.

    My goal is to speak to people's hearts and demonstrate the value of what I'm offering and make it a no-brainer opportunity for personal growth.

    Thank you!

    Derek
    I read the whole thing, but was left wondering if this was more "law of attraction" stuff. I'd clarify if you are pushing that.

    The font-sizing needs some work. You aren't using 10 or 11 point type, are you? Maybe I just need to go to the eye doctor.

    I saw two words spelled wrong.

    "Letting go of self-sabaotage and mental blocks" was one. Aah, you ARE using a small type! That definitely needs to be changed.

    I really think you need to share more "how" instead of "what," also. Your copy is too technical and sterile, quite honestly. You said that "My goal is to speak to people's hearts." You can only do that if you speak from your heart, I think.
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    • Profile picture of the author Derek Felton
      Originally Posted by doggerel View Post

      I read the whole thing, but was left wondering if this was more "law of attraction" stuff. I'd clarify if you are pushing that.

      The font-sizing needs some work. You aren't using 10 or 11 point type, are you? Maybe I just need to go to the eye doctor.

      I saw two words spelled wrong.

      "Letting go of self-sabaotage and mental blocks" was one. Aah, you ARE using a small type! That definitely needs to be changed.

      I really think you need to share more "how" instead of "what," also. Your copy is too technical and sterile, quite honestly. You said that "My goal is to speak to people's hearts." You can only do that if you speak from your heart, I think.
      Thank you, doggerel. I agree that the copy is a bit "stiff" and could be much warmer.
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  • Profile picture of the author serryjw
    I really think it looks great, BUT TOO MUCH COPY...minor changes
    1) get a professional email...Gmail doesn't count
    2) Your navigation bar is bizarre. HOME is always first
    3) Do you have formal education?
    4) Talk to people's emotions. Life's journey is emotional. They have 5 senses, appeal to each one.
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    • Profile picture of the author Derek Felton
      Originally Posted by serryjw View Post

      I really think it looks great, BUT TOO MUCH COPY...minor changes
      1) get a professional email...Gmail doesn't count
      2) Your navigation bar is bizarre. HOME is always first
      3) Do you have formal education?
      4) Talk to people's emotions. Life's journey is emotional. They have 5 senses, appeal to each one.
      All of your points and suggestions are well-taken. Yes I know the copy doesn't really have much emotional expression. It's interesting because I find it easier to speak emotionally than to write that way.

      Yes I have a formal education. Why did you ask that?
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  • Profile picture of the author Entrecon
    My vote is to just get rid of all the copy.

    If you are selling me on you and what you can provide me, then I want to see you. Put up a video of yourself letting us know what the benefit of your program is. Show me your energy level so that I can feel the energy and can't wait to get into the membership area and start working with you.
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    • Profile picture of the author serryjw
      TOUGH BUT BRILLIANT!
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      • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
        Save your money. This is a dud.

        Whoever wrote the copy doesn't understand the market.

        They think they know how to write copy. But the fact of the matter is they don't understand human nature, especially online.

        I know. I know. You want an example. Ok, here's an obvious one:

        Where, for one moment, does the copywriter create a sense of urgency to buy?

        Without creating a sense of urgency, there is no need to buy now. The visitor will put it off. Guaranteed.

        Unfortunately, there are several other issues which render the piece unredeemable.

        If you're serious, hire a copywriter who really understands what it's gonna take to get someone to buy.

        - Rick Duris
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        • Profile picture of the author Derek Felton
          Thank you all so much for the feedback. I really appreciate it. Your critiques will help me put out a better product.
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        • Profile picture of the author Derek Felton
          Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

          Save your money. This is a dud.

          Whoever wrote the copy doesn't understand the market.

          They think they know how to write copy. But the fact of the matter is they don't understand human nature, especially online.

          I know. I know. You want an example. Ok, here's an obvious one:

          Where for one moment does the copywriter create a sense of urgency to buy?

          Without creating a sense of urgency, there is no need to buy now. The visitor will put it off. Guaranteed.

          Unfortunately, there are several other issues which render the piece unredeemable.

          If you're serious, hire a copywriter who really understands what it's gonna take to get someone to buy.

          - Rick Duris
          Thanks, Rick. I am Definitely looking into hiring a pro.
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        • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
          Originally Posted by RickDuris View Post

          Save your money. This is a dud.

          Whoever wrote the copy doesn't understand the market.
          Agreed.

          I've written for and sold to this market for 17 years. The most important thing I've learned about selling to them is that vague doesn't equal value.

          Reading this, I'm not even sure what you're offering. I can hear your target market asking "Is this just gonna be more of that positive thinking stuff?"

          I heard that ^ objection thousands of times when I worked for Peter Lowe's company. The only way to overcome it is to be damn specific about:

          1) Exactly you're going to help them achieve.

          Unless you're Bob Proctor, Steven Covey or Jack Canfield, "finding your purpose" is too nebulous. You need to start with a practical bottom line benefit.

          2) Why they should listen to you.

          On that point, demonstration beats persuasion. You have to demonstrate that you've done something exceptional.

          Too many people in this space think they're experts just because they decided to quit their job at Home Depot and become a motivational speaker. Others think they're experts after reading some books or paying $25 to join an MLM company. Ironically, these people are also your buyers lol, so they're not about to fall for their own tricks.

          You need a track record, a claim to fame. Something that sets you apart.

          3) HOW you're going to help them.

          In this niche "The more you tell, the more you sell" is true. You can't give away too much information. Believe me, I've written promotions where the sales message told them just as much as the product did. If the insights are unique and if they make sense, people will buy.

          However, you DO need to give them something they can't get from someone else. Otherwise, they'll go to that someone else. That takes a lot of work, but it's the people who have a unique selling position that make it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Derek Felton
      Originally Posted by Entrecon View Post

      My vote is to just get rid of all the copy.

      If you are selling me on you and what you can provide me, then I want to see you. Put up a video of yourself letting us know what the benefit of your program is. Show me your energy level so that I can feel the energy and can't wait to get into the membership area and start working with you.
      I feel you 100%. Thanks for the feedback!
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  • Profile picture of the author jjosephs
    "Find your purpose in life" is a lifeless phrase that has been beaten to death and back for 40 years. No good even by the hokey standards of life coaches.

    Your headline contains both support and challenge, and they don't work together.

    You put your story front and center rather than the benefit. Your story does not matter, and nobody cares to read it before you've addressed THEM. You eventually do, but it's not worth the wait.

    Your "benefits" don't pop. The fun doesn't sound fun. The fulfilling doesn't sound fulfilling etc. And frankly, they are all over the place. I would narrow it down to just a few, and hammer those in.

    Then there's the formatting. Get a nicer font. Enlarge your text. Headers need to be BIGGER. Text should be narrower. Yellow highlights on red text burn my eyes.

    There are too many more things to point out. You may have posted hoping for a few DIY band-aids, but your copy is gushing blood. Listen to Rick and work with a copywriter. Life coaching is not a niche where you can screw around and cross your fingers. Too much competition and skepticism.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    Derek!

    When you say "featured" in places like CNN and BET, what does that mean? Were there actual soundbites about you? Interview? Did you just buy a banner ad on those sites (and pretend like your advertising dollars buy your credibility - like those VSL campaigns?) Explain.

    Okay... Innerpreneurship. There's an attempt at branding. And I do mean attempt. It's not cooked. Heck, it's barely marinated. What is an innerpreneur? How is it different from being an entrepreneur?

    Your story... also uncooked. There's a ton of potential in what you're trying to do, but you're missing the point of making yourself vulnerable.

    You say...

    I accomplished more than I could imagine when I began to confidently walk in my purpose
    But the bullets underneath are vague.

    I've written books too. The question is... were they successful? I make a very good lliving from selling my own products. You? If so, tell us. Give us numbers. Describe your lifestyle. How did Innerpreneurship and finding your purpose help you manifest abundance? People need to want what you have. Not accomplished.

    Oh...

    And if it did find your purpose...

    HOW? When did it dawn on you, "Holy shucks, that's it."

    Okay...

    Now...

    What about me?

    You went from telling me your uncooked story to disclosing vague achievements - straight into the product. ?!?!?!?!?!

    What about me? Are you going to bring me into the conversation? Or is this all about you?

    Where's the hook? The big idea? The irresistible promise straight away? I'll tell you. They aren't there. None of them.

    Start over.

    Just some random thoughts. I could go on. But playtime calls.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author RickDuris
    Derek, I know it requires a bit of rhinoceros skin, but you'd benefit taking Marc and Seth's advice.

    - Rick Duris
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    Niche it down. You'll get killed trying to market to such a broad audience. Target college students, actors, troubled kids, mid-career people in transition, empty nesters feeling empty, divorced people, laid-off business people, or some other tight niche. Become the go to guy in that space.
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