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what i the fastest way to learn copy writing?

by chall vandenbergh
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for a long time i have been interested in learning copywriting
however after watching over 10 courses on copywriting
i still just get no where

i read some where that the best way to learn to write good copy is just to copy by hand but is this actually effective to learn to write copy fast because ?
#copy #fastest #learn #writing
  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    It's kind of like riding a bike. At some point you have to hop on & pedal. Learn from your mistakes & improve.

    You've already watched 10 courses. At this point, the most valuable type of learning for you is first hand experience.

    Either that or hire someone else to write your copy and stick to what you're good at. After all..."a long time" & "watching over 10 courses on copywriting" leads me to believe you could be overestimating your interest level.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zodiax
      Well it says in your sig you can get 143 subscribers in 20 minutes of work so why do you need to learn proper copy. You must be a master.
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      • Profile picture of the author Zero
        Have you actually done anything in those copywriting courses?
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  • Profile picture of the author Raydal
    Originally Posted by chall vandenbergh View Post

    for a long time i have been interested in learning copywriting
    however after watching over 10 courses on copywriting
    i still just get no where

    i read some where that the best way to learn to write good copy is just to copy by hand but is this actually effective to learn to write copy fast because ?
    When I first started learning copywriting, every new idea I learned I put
    into practice right away. My first online sales letter was changed every time
    I learned a new idea. so maybe you need to do some more doing along
    with the watching. We all learn in different ways but one common factor
    is that you have to PRACTISE.

    -Ray Edwards
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    • Profile picture of the author BudaBrit
      Originally Posted by Raydal View Post

      When I first started learning copywriting, every new idea I learned I put
      into practice right away. My first online sales letter was changed every time
      I learned a new idea. so maybe you need to do some more doing along
      with the watching. We all learn in different ways but one common factor
      is that you have to PRACTISE.

      -Ray Edwards
      Yes, yes, yes!

      You can take it too far, though: the putting new ideas into practice bit, not the actual practise.

      Which is something I tend to do...but considering I'm doing it on a daily basis now, it's getting better.

      I have three things that absolutely ring true for me and they're neither going to take over your life or bankrupt you.

      1) Be happy. It's amazing how much better my writing is since I've been in a better place personally. I know some people seem to get off on being miserable, but it just doesn't work (for me, at least).

      2) Believe in yourself. Once you know you're the best person you know at something, it's so much easier to actually do it. I work with a group of people with lots of talents, but none of them can write copy like me (not to say I'm actually any good, just that I'm better than they are :p)

      3) Get inspiration from every source. Reading a blog about SEO? Take away their comments and put them into use when writing copy. Watching the World Cup and like the way Argentina play? Take that away and see how it translates to paper.

      Not everyone writes in the same way and if we all did the world would be worse off. So don't just come on here looking for the quickest way to do something, just sit back and do it how you can best. It's taken me 2 years to get where I am now and I still don't feel I'm ready to head off on my own offering copywriting services. I'm a hell of a lot closer than I was 2 years ago, though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sandycmy
    Originally Posted by chall vandenbergh View Post

    for a long time i have been interested in learning copywriting
    however after watching over 10 courses on copywriting
    i still just get no where

    i read some where that the best way to learn to write good copy is just to copy by hand but is this actually effective to learn to write copy fast because ?

    I see where you come from. I'm in the same state. However, I have set myself a target of writing 30 sales letters. I'm only looking at the reader and a particular format, then outsourcing the average copy to a guy who can play with words.

    I read it somewhere " Version ONE is better than Version NONE " Hope it helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author elmo033057
    If you want to learn how to swim jump into water...
    On dry land no frame of mind is going to help you.

    ~Bruce Lee
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  • Profile picture of the author Don Grace
    I'm with Elmo here... get to work. It's the same if you've ever skied or snowboarded... Many times a first timer gets fooled by their friends to take a lift to the top of a mountain.... Then they get ditched to figure out how to get down.

    A bit cruel yes... but after that they master the mountain in no time flat.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonwebb
    I learned to write copy in 2008/09 with the awai course. Its 2014 and I am just NOW starting to get it.

    the best way is to find a format you like then write your copy in that format.

    lastly it's a bit old school but I still believe in copying great sales letters at least once. I find that doing that I can "absorb" how they write. It really does help at least in my experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamiller
    People love to say "just do it." But this is dangerous thinking. Let me give you an example.

    If you worked at a zoo cleaning zebra poop all day, and they asked you to go pull a thorn out of an injured lion's foot...would your mentality be "sure, I'll just go do that." Heck no! Because you do not have the proper knowledge of the situation. The same applies to this topic. (except you probably wouldn't end up being an animals lunch)

    You should read some great copy. Find legendary copywriters who have written books. Look for stuff from Dan Kennedy, Robert Cialdini, David Ogilvy, etc.

    If you do your time and study, you will be far better off when you go to write your first copy. Don't just dive in head first, why do that when others have done it and offered to help? Let the greatest teach you, and one day you too shall be great.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    • Profile picture of the author angiecolee
      Originally Posted by jamiller View Post

      People love to say "just do it." But this is dangerous thinking. Let me give you an example.

      If you worked at a zoo cleaning zebra poop all day, and they asked you to go pull a thorn out of an injured lion's foot...would your mentality be "sure, I'll just go do that." Heck no! Because you do not have the proper knowledge of the situation. The same applies to this topic. (except you probably wouldn't end up being an animals lunch)

      You should read some great copy. Find legendary copywriters who have written books. Look for stuff from Dan Kennedy, Robert Cialdini, David Ogilvy, etc.

      If you do your time and study, you will be far better off when you go to write your first copy. Don't just dive in head first, why do that when others have done it and offered to help? Let the greatest teach you, and one day you too shall be great.

      Just my 2 cents.
      OK, drawing a parallel between writing words and interacting with wild animals is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

      I'm gonna tell you a secret...

      An essential piece of the puzzle that ALL copywriters know...

      You ready for this?

      WRITERS WRITE.

      By all means, if you don't know where to start, don't go out there promising a check your ass can't cash. But start SOMEWHERE. Write something for a friend for a slashed fee. Hell, I cut my teeth on writing a newsletter for a charity I hold near and dear (newsletters are a LOT of work, FYI).

      The answer to your problem, OP? Write. If you're not sure where to go from there, post it here, take a shot to steel your nerves, and let the guys shred it and help you put it back together.

      In this industry, you ONLY learn by DOING.
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      • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
        Originally Posted by angiecolee View Post

        OK, drawing a parallel between writing words and interacting with wild animals is a bit of a stretch, don't you think?

        I'm gonna tell you a secret...

        An essential piece of the puzzle that ALL copywriters know...

        You ready for this?

        WRITERS WRITE.

        By all means, if you don't know where to start, don't go out there promising a check your ass can't cash. But start SOMEWHERE. Write something for a friend for a slashed fee. Hell, I cut my teeth on writing a newsletter for a charity I hold near and dear (newsletters are a LOT of work, FYI).

        The answer to your problem, OP? Write. If you're not sure where to go from there, post it here, take a shot to steel your nerves, and let the guys shred it and help you put it back together.

        In this industry, you ONLY learn by DOING.
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  • Profile picture of the author haydnsymons
    I definitely agree with the above, you should of seen my writing before starting my blog, it wasn't that great; average at best.

    But the only way for you to improve your copywriting skills, is by writing.

    You won't be good at drawing if you don't pick up a pencil, not good at football if you never kick a football, or learn how to talk to girls without approaching one!

    Take that dive, and start to practise what you've already learnt, as it seems like your ready after 10 courses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dot Com Direct
    Here's an easy way as recommended by the late Gary Halbert.

    Find some direct response classics and copy them out by hand.

    "The Lazy Man's Way To Riches" is a great one to start with.

    As you do so, you will find yourself "internalizing" the art of great sales copy.

    Keep doing that, and you'll be surprised at how your copy will automatically start to "flow" when you start writing.

    Hope this helps.
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  • Profile picture of the author keithb89
    Read the news. Figure out how each writer constructed his story. After reading the news for a while with a more critical eye, you'll understand how to do it yourself.
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