Do Newbie Copywriters Need More Skinned Knees?

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Interesting topic came up on Linkedin today about using swipe files...

The #1 "Rule" of copywriting that top copywriters ALWAYS break | LinkedIn

I see swipes as training wheels to get you moving. But they'll never help you find your balance. To do that, ya gotta the wheels off and risk some road rash.

What do you guys think?

At what point should the "training wheels" come off?
#knees #newbie #skinned
  • Profile picture of the author Mark Pescetti
    Swiping is an epidemic in the copywriting world.

    I've noticed...

    A lot of people swipe - without understanding the positioning. So they mess it up - when they try to apply it to their campaign.

    It's better to deconstruct why a hook or headline worked... and build something original.

    Mark

    P.S. This isn't true:

    The major mailers don’t have much patience for “swiped” copy. Particularly if it’s one of the top 50 or 100 formulas that every copywriter learned in their first 3 months of study.
    I'm on a lot of big mailer lists. And I see a lot of regurgitated BS all the time. Yes, there's some originality too, but it's the exception.

    Bono said:

    Every artist is a cannibal, every poet is a thief
    All kill their inspiration and sing about their grief
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    • Profile picture of the author angiecolee
      I think the answer is very similar to teaching any kid to ride a bike.

      It's simply "whenever they're ready".

      I know I've rebelled against the idea of swiping from the get-go, but that's also a personal preference. I'm not a fan of copying/modifying in general, as opposed to pure creation.

      Plus, on a more selfish note, if it succeeds, I'd like to know that was all me. If it flops, I'd also like to know it was all me so that I can figure out how to course correct.

      But the skinned knees definitely need to happen. Unless, that is, you're comfortable with a life of coasting. Nothing necessarily wrong with that either.
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    • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
      Originally Posted by Mark Pescetti View Post

      A lot of people swipe - without understanding the positioning. So they mess it up - when they try to apply it to their campaign.

      It's better to deconstruct why a hook or headline worked... and build something original.
      Uh oh, Mark used the "p" word.

      A collective shudder just went up the spine of every newbie across the globe and 99.9% of them don't even know why.

      I've been writing about this whole hook biz in my new book.

      Having worked in the music biz a little, I can tell you that having a good hook can literally turn four pizza delivery drivers (sorry, that's what most amateur musicians do) into million dollar rock stars.

      I think most studied musicians would agree that most of what's played on the radio is garbage compared to the stuff being written by real composers with college degrees.

      But it's making millions and millions of dollars for the "artists."

      Why?

      Because it's catchy, fun, interesting, and it has a way of getting stuck in your head. Hell, you don't even have to LIKE the bloody song to get "hooked."

      I'm sure you've had those days when you want to take an icepick to your prefrontal cortex to knock that friggin' Katie Perry song out of your head.

      ...and don't tell me that's never happened to you because we both know it has.

      "Hooks," in music and in writing, are psychologically designed (whether the artist knows it or not) to get into your head, lay eggs there, make babies and colonize your consciousness.

      An average writer who can come up with good hooks can run squares around a great writer who can't.

      Fair?

      I don't think that matters. That's how it is. In copywriting, the hook is JUST as important as it is in popular music. If ya' got it, it's money in the bank...EASY money. If ya' ain't got it...we'll you'd better get used to playing those hole in the wall bars where there's two people and your mom in the audience.

      SO few people understand copywriting, but even fewer have a clue about positioning. Swiping definitely inoculates a person to developing that knowledge. That might be a good tip for any newbie reading this.

      Your hook is the yeast in the dough of your marketing strategy. It's the magic wand welded into the fists of the Gods of copywriting.

      With enough split testing, any monkey can find something that works. Hell, even a broken watch is right once a day. But if you don't know why it worked, it could stop working. Then, you can't just reinvent the hook. You have to go back to shaking the magic 8 ball and hoping for a good answer.
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    • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
      Originally Posted by Mark Pescetti View Post

      I'm on a lot of big mailer lists. And I see a lot of regurgitated BS all the time. Yes, there's some originality too, but it's the exception.
      :
      "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."

      -Edison

      I think I'd add that you need to learn how to give it your own hook too.

      Dammit. I need to stop visiting this forum. Every time I start a conversation on here I want to write another book lol.
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